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Hey guys! I want to get some beveled bases from a company, they are the correct size that would have come with my models, just wondering in competitive world that these would be okay if they are the exact size? I know there is come crying about GW only models etc..

If they're the same size no-one will complain. There's no game effect if they're the same size, so who manufactured them can have no bearing when it comes to the rules.

If you encounter some very odd person complaining for no discernable reason, hopefully your tournament organizer will set them straight.

Thanks. Pulling the trigger then!

Related question here,

I'm planning on mounting my Chaos Lord on a terminator base, rather than a regular 25mm in order to get more scenery on the base itself and make him more distinguishable. Would this be acceptable for most people?

Yes; moreso now in 6th ed than it would have been in 5th, since it's much less likely for you to gain any game advantage from it under the current rules. Be sure to make clear to your opponent that if there is a situation where the larger base would be advantageous, that you'll give your opponent the benefit of the doubt and play it as if it were a 25mm, and you should be golden.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Yes; moreso now in 6th ed than it would have been in 5th, since it's much less likely for you to gain any game advantage from it under the current rules. Be sure to make clear to your opponent that if there is a situation where the larger base would be advantageous, that you'll give your opponent the benefit of the doubt and play it as if it were a 25mm, and you should be golden.

Thanks!

Has anyone ever encountered having a larger base (which is permissible by the rules) creating issues?

I'm looking at deepstriking squads here and blast template weapons. If you've a model mounted on a 60mm base and a blast template weapon lands direct hit on the deepstrike formation, you're not going to affect as many models as say a direct hit on a bunch of 20mm models in deepstrike formation.

Well, bear in mind this thread is talking about one base for a character. If you start using larger or smaller bases in general, especially for deep striking/assaulting units (daemons in particular), that's definitely going to start having an impact.

Remember there are no 20mm bases in 40k; the smallest are 25mm. And there's a big difference between upgrading from a 25mm to a 40mm (as the OP described) and going the massive step up to 60mm, which is not much smaller than the small blast template.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Well, bear in mind this thread is talking about one base for a character. If you start using larger or smaller bases in general, especially for deep striking/assaulting units (daemons in particular), that's definitely going to start having an impact.

Remember there are no 20mm bases in 40k; the smallest are 25mm. And there's a big difference between upgrading from a 25mm to a 40mm (as the OP described) and going the massive step up to 60mm, which is not much smaller than the small blast template.

I meant to say 25mm, I stand corrected. I was actually looking at the larger-based units deepstriking, such as drop sentinels or heavy weapons teams. Permissive ruleset allows you to use a larger base, but not a smaller base. I'm not trying to be a WAAC player here, but I'm intending to model my HWT and sentinel bases with a fair share of scenery on them which might require a larger base (going from 40mm to 60mm). Reading this thread did make me wonder about the implications of using a larger base.

 Heartless wrote:
Related question here,

I'm planning on mounting my Chaos Lord on a terminator base, rather than a regular 25mm in order to get more scenery on the base itself and make him more distinguishable. Would this be acceptable for most people?

So long as you don't use the black mace you'll be unlikely to have anyone say anything to you.
There are a few weapons and wargear options that offer a distinct advantage to models on larger base. Nova powers for example.

 Enigwolf wrote:
Has anyone ever encountered having a larger base (which is permissible by the rules)

It's not, the rules assume you use the base it comes with, and permit you to use a base of an appropriate size, they do not permit you the choice of going larger.

 Enigwolf wrote:
I was actually looking at the larger-based units deepstriking, such as drop sentinels or heavy weapons teams. Permissive ruleset allows you to use a larger base, but not a smaller base. I'm not trying to be a WAAC player here, but I'm intending to model my HWT and sentinel bases with a fair share of scenery on them which might require a larger base (going from 40mm to 60mm). Reading this thread did make me wonder about the implications of using a larger base.

A) 4th edition was the last time there was a rule granting general permission to use a larger base. In 5th edition and 6th edition, you are told to use the base the model comes with, or that the rules assume you're using the base provided, but both say you can ask your opponent's okay to use a larger one for scenic bases and the like.
B) Sentinels & Heavy weapon teams are on 60mm bases anyway.

It would have mattered in 5th edition for Rhinos and such. But for 6th, it doesn't really matter.

I'd be fine with a lord being mounted on a Terminator (40mm) base. If I see a Lord in Power Armour on a Dreadnought sized base, i'd probably grumble and find a subtle way to tell them to go to heck. That's a bit much, and can abuse spacing much more than a Power Armor lord on a Terminator Base would.

But, if it looks cool enough, I suppose all can be forgiven.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Well, bear in mind this thread is talking about one base for a character. If you start using larger or smaller bases in general, especially for deep striking/assaulting units (daemons in particular), that's definitely going to start having an impact.

Remember there are no 20mm bases in 40k; the smallest are 25mm. And there's a big difference between upgrading from a 25mm to a 40mm (as the OP described) and going the massive step up to 60mm, which is not much smaller than the small blast template.

29 Shoota Boyz on terminator bases, with a Nob on the smaller MC base.

Warboss on the Flying base.

Pfft templates/markers eat your heart out.

I've actually seen worse than that. Back in 3rd edition the LOS rules were that models blocked LOS in a cylinder to the width of their base, and to twice their height. Units in close combat blocked LOS for both sides, but outside of close combat, units blocked LOS only for the ENEMY. Standard horde tactics for Tyranids were to laboriously line up your termagants or hormagaunts in base contact in front of your genestealers, who did the same in front of your warriors and bigger bugs... Space Marines would line up in front of their tanks to hide the tanks, Ogryn would line up next to each other to hide Leman Russes, etc.

This was pretty interesting, but then Chaos Space Marines got Chapter Approved rules in WD for cheap cultist squads of up to (either 20 or) 30 models! Which was pretty nasty, especially as no other MEQ army at the time had a cheapo screening unit like this.

Anyway, onto the rules/basing abuse story!

At my first GT, Baltimore 2001, one Chaos player modeled this (honestly really nice-looking) HORDE of chaos cultists, using various mostly OOP chaos familiars, cultists, renegades, and other odd minis, all on 40mm bases, and most of them modeled in ways or on scenic bases which also increased their height. So he had 100+ cheapo dudes on 40mms, blocking LOS completely to the rest of his army, while his own guys shot freely through them.

Thankfully these kind of shenanigans are pretty darn rare. The only other similar wackiness I've seen in over a dozen years of tournaments were one guy who modeled his Tyranid monstrous creatures as crawling, and this one team of guys at Adepticon with special unique vehicles which were used for LOS tricks.

 Mannahnin wrote:
B) Sentinels & Heavy weapon teams are on 60mm bases anyway.

And this is what happens when you're not an Imperial Guard player. Derp!

 Enigwolf wrote:
Has anyone ever encountered having a larger base (which is permissible by the rules) creating issues?

I'm looking at deepstriking squads here and blast template weapons. If you've a model mounted on a 60mm base and a blast template weapon lands direct hit on the deepstrike formation, you're not going to affect as many models as say a direct hit on a bunch of 20mm models in deepstrike formation.

Another issue that could come up is for determining if your model can/can't move through certain areas. Such as, you have two of your vehicles close together but you want to move/run between them...you might be able to with a 25mm base but you definitely can't with a 40mm base. You know, situations like that.

 Mannahnin wrote:

At my first GT, Baltimore 2001, one Chaos player modeled this (honestly really nice-looking) HORDE of chaos cultists, using various mostly OOP chaos familiars, cultists, renegades, and other odd minis, all on 40mm bases, and most of them modeled in ways or on scenic bases which also increased their height. So he had 100+ cheapo dudes on 40mms, blocking LOS completely to the rest of his army, while his own guys shot freely through them.

Thankfully these kind of shenanigans are pretty darn rare. The only other similar wackiness I've seen in over a dozen years of tournaments were one guy who modeled his Tyranid monstrous creatures as crawling, and this one team of guys at Adepticon with special unique vehicles which were used for LOS tricks.

I remember that exact chaos cultist army. the 3rd edition LOS rules were 'treat everything as an abstract cylinder the size of the base to the highest part. If you are over 50% height, you block LOS'

My friend had Iyanden army which had wraithlords which could be totally blocked LOS to by 5 Wraithguard which are like 53% the height of a wrathlord. Something obscene like 6 Wraithlords and 9 Warwalkers all of which could shoot you unobstructed but none of which could be targeted by shooting. But that entire 'you can go one size larger' hasn't been valid for at least 6 years now.

In 6th edition, base size has a lot less impact due to the changes in disembarking. Character 'upsizing' bases for cinematic reasons is mostly harmless. In 5th it was much more game impacting.

I would not recommend upsizing/downsizing entire units tho. Especially with deepstrike and assaults.

I would have no problems with someone who used a larger base for visual effect, rather than game effect. My GK Brotherhood Champion is on a 40mm base to make him stand out from the pack. My old metal Necron Immortals (the original 2nd Edition models) are all on 40mm bases, but that is as much to keep them from toppling over (they're rather top heavy) than anything else.

Actually, I did want to check something. Elysian Special Weapon Squads come on 60mm bases (two guys on one) or biker bases (proning), yet they are 2 one-wound models as opposed to a HWT's 1 two-wound model to represent 2 infantrymen. Furthermore, some of their HWT missile launcher models come as two models on 25mm bases for 1 two-wound HWT.

How would one go about playing with the one 60mm base with two models on it if it's the base that's supplied, and you're supposed to use the supplied base versus one that might be "modeling for advantage" by reducing base size? Or for two 25mm based-models for 1 two-wound HWT?

HIWPI I would use the most recent bases and keep all of my HWT's based the same way. (On 60mm bases, as they are 1 model with two wounds).

Some tournaments instruct you to use the base a model comes on, though. What then?

The older IG codex had rules for two one-wound infantry men on one base.

They quite literally said "When required, imagine a 25mm base under each guardsman."

And many GW-official guardsmen HWTs come as missile launcher on one 25mm base, loader w/ missile on another (Steel Legion and Mordians spring to mind).

Those IDK what to do with.