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I'm finally in a situation where I can break open a bunch of my figures and actually build and paint them. The only drawback is that I don't particularly enjoy writing up army lists. So I'm looking to find a person or people who actually enjoy writing up army lists to help me out. I'm looking to set up multiple armies of pretty much every race. I've got a fair few figures, and so can probably build/scratchbuild/convert/proxy/buy anything I really need from most forces.

I'm a bit limited on Tyranids, Tau and Necrons, but pretty good on figures for other armies.

What I'm looking for would be Thematic forces - not gimped but flavoursome and not min-maxed FTW. They'll be used as painting/modelling projects as well as used in friendly games between friends and I here at home, and ideally in segments - ie 500 or 600pt "Combat Patrol-ish forces, then more stuff to expand them to 1200, and possibly finishing at 2k. I'll honestly be really happy if I can get a bunch of cool-looking but small armies of 600/1200 put together

Forces I'm wanting to set up:

Mentor Legion (Vanilla, with a bit more tech - Dread, Razorback & Vindicator)
Blood Angels
Flesh Tearers
Dark Angels
Space Wolves
"Generic" Imperial Guard
Catachans (jungle fighters + Ogryns)
Praetorians (also using Mordians)
Tau (small-ish, a fair few Kroot)
Eldar Wild Riders
Eldar Craftworld
Dark Eldar
Iron Warriors (With Berserkers & Obliterators)
Death Guard/Nurgle Marines
World Eaters/Khorne Marines
Thousand Sons/Tzeentch
Emperor's Children/Slaanesh
Chaos Undecided
Legion of the Damned (detatchment)
Crimson Fists (using old-school RT figures and hardware)
Orks - Blood Axes
Orks - Kult of Speed
Necrons (smallish)
Grey Knights
Deathwatch (detachment)
...and more, no doubt!

What's in it for you? Assuming you're the type of person who likes making thematic lists:
You get to make up something fun and flavoursome without worrying at all about needing to buy anything - then you get to watch your ideas take shape via a P&M blog with full credit given to you, both on Dakka and on my own Blog.

Why am I posting this request in Discussions instead of Army Lists?
Because I'm not posting an army list to be critiqued and min-maxed for tournament or FLGS play against strangers etc, but asking for help for something more general. I'm looking to make finished forces to play with on the table, sure, but it's just as much a (series of) Painting and Modelling projects, and I'd also like to have some back and forth discussion on flavour and theme in the thread as well.

Oh, and I have (most of) the current books as well and have access to the ones I don't own (and will eventually buy them). So it's not an attempt to avoid buying stuff.

Thanks!

I took a shot at a 600 point Mentors detachment, although the focus is a bit different to what you suggested - rather than the brute force tech, I went with the special forces approach, with an Elite Cadre backed up by two squads of scouts.

HQ
Counts-as Pedro Kantor - 175 points

ELITES
5-man Sternguard Veteran squad w/combi-melta and Drop Pod - 165 points

TROOPS
5-man Scout squad w/sniper rifles, missile launcher - 85 points
5-man Scout squad w/combat blades - 75 points

FAST ATTACK
Land Speeder Storm - 50 points
Land Speeder Storm - 50 points

Thanks Alex!
I suggested the Dread/Razorback/Vindi for them as they are a few of the things I already have painted up as Mentors - also because their fluff talks about them being technologically advanced.

Perhaps I can work the mech elements into the next tier. I can repaint the Vindi into another army easily enough as it's about 50% painted (original metal add-ons to the original rhino kit - so might work well for my Crimson Fists or Iron Warriors) but the Dread and Razorback are finished/almost finished excepting the chapter badges.

I'll have to check, but I think I have 2 Tactical Squads (7 or 8 man - as per 3rd ed rules) and an Assault Squad all "almost-finished". No Terminators.

I've got the scouts, but having checked what the LS Storm is, it's one of the few pieces of SM hardware I don't have, aside from the just-released flyers. :(

LS Storms are just Land Speeders with open top rules and can carry 5 scouts inside it.

For the Emperor's Children, would you be interested in a counts-as force that I think portrays them well as the ten-thousand year veterans that they are?

Neutralista wrote:
LS Storms are just Land Speeders with open top rules and can carry 5 scouts inside it.

Yep, I checked them out on the GW site. Turns out I don't have any of the models, though - I could still mod the list Alex gave me for them into another chapter once I get hold of some.

 AlexHolker wrote:
For the Emperor's Children, would you be interested in a counts-as force that I think portrays them well as the ten-thousand year veterans that they are?

Sounds quite interesting.
Ideally I'd like to use/paint at least some of my original Slaanesh Chaos Renegades in the force (and the same to incorporate the appropriate models into the other Chaos Forces. Sounds like they might match up well with your Veteran concept.

http://www.solegends.com/citcat19911/c2106chaosrenegades-00.htm
http://www.solegends.com/citcat19911/c2108chaosrenegades-00.htm

I also have a few of each of the first of the "Modern" chaos marines, as well as the Noise Marine
http://www.solegends.com/citcat19911/c2110chaosmarines-00.htm
(Dread is also available, but can be used for another Chaos force - I also have a Space Crusade Dread or two somewhere)
http://www.solegends.com/citcat1992/c92403chaosspacemarines-00.htm

 AlexHolker wrote:
I took a shot at a 600 point Mentors detachment, although the focus is a bit different to what you suggested - rather than the brute force tech, I went with the special forces approach, with an Elite Cadre backed up by two squads of scouts.

HQ
Counts-as Pedro Kantor - 175 points

ELITES
5-man Sternguard Veteran squad w/combi-melta and Drop Pod - 165 points

TROOPS
5-man Scout squad w/sniper rifles, missile launcher - 85 points
5-man Scout squad w/combat blades - 75 points

FAST ATTACK
Land Speeder Storm - 50 points
Land Speeder Storm - 50 points

Landspeeder Storms are literally not worth your money.

500pt and smaller games strongly dis-favor Space Marine armies with normal FOCs. Here's what I would run at 500 and 750pts.

500pts:


Tactical Squads can take almost any fire dished at them, and at low points levels, there will be a happy shortage of AP3 weaponry, typically. In objective games, you split them up, and have the Missile Launchers stand back and obliterate light armor / other space marines / Frag Round things, while your combat squads (and the Librarian) move up to claim forward objectives. The Speeder is there to light up things in cover and give you some mobile fire support. (and he's a decent place to drop 60pts)

750pts:


Little bit of upgrading for the Tactical Squad and the Landspeeder, and you add some armour into your list.

And, 1000pts:



The Techmarine on the cannon can bolster a Ruin, the Vindicators + Dreadnoughts fit your theme, and you get some Rhinos to drive around with / upgrade to Razorbacks later. (Always, always, always buy the Razorback kit when you have an option!)

 scipio.au wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
For the Emperor's Children, would you be interested in a counts-as force that I think portrays them well as the ten-thousand year veterans that they are?

Sounds quite interesting.
Ideally I'd like to use/paint at least some of my original Slaanesh Chaos Renegades in the force (and the same to incorporate the appropriate models into the other Chaos Forces. Sounds like they might match up well with your Veteran concept.

Not really, no. The idea I mentioned requires that the entire force be equipped with sonic blasters and power swords, so the old Chaos Renegades models wouldn't really fit.

Crazyterran wrote:

500pt and smaller games strongly dis-favor Space Marine armies with normal FOCs. Here's what I would run at 500 and 750pts.

Thanks!
I'm going to update the first 600pts worth of my existing Mentors SM force based on a bit of a mod to your 500 and 700pt armies - based on what I have painted up already and wanting to go in 600-pt chunks.


Librarian - The Avenger, Null Zone - 100pts (I have a Mentors librarian painted with lightning claws and a jump pack - my old FC from 3rd edition when I started the army. I may paint up a new guy or check the options)

Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Missile Launcher - 180pts
Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Missile Launcher - 180pts
* I have 2 7-man Tac squads almost finished (again, 3rd ed rules) , so I'll bump them both to 10. One already has Plasma/ML painted, the other already has the Plasma painted and no heavy weapon at present.

Landspeeder w/ MM and Underslung HF - 70pts
* I've actually got a metal LS half-painted in Mentor livery. I'll have to check the loadout and which weapons I have in the old metal, but it should be easy enough to mod/magnetise/add in plastic guns..

This takes me to 530. Now I'll need to come up with 70pts of stuff. I don't really want to cheese out the FC, particularly for 600pt friendly games. (The Lib used to lead/attach to an assault squad).



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 AlexHolker wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
For the Emperor's Children, would you be interested in a counts-as force that I think portrays them well as the ten-thousand year veterans that they are?

Sounds quite interesting.
Ideally I'd like to use/paint at least some of my original Slaanesh Chaos Renegades in the force (and the same to incorporate the appropriate models into the other Chaos Forces. Sounds like they might match up well with your Veteran concept.

Not really, no. The idea I mentioned requires that the entire force be equipped with sonic blasters and power swords, so the old Chaos Renegades models wouldn't really fit.

Aren't SBs in the existing/new Chaos codex? How would it be a "counts-as" force? Or using the GK rules?

 scipio.au wrote:
Aren't SBs in the existing/new Chaos codex? How would it be a "counts-as" force? Or using the GK rules?

Yeah, using GK rules. I6 marines with anti-psy abilities and pseudo-sonic blasters and lead by a swordsman who is likely to kill anyone who defeats him in a challenge.

I'd be willing to give deathwatch and nids a shot, what marine codex would you want used for deathwatch? Also you called it a detachment, do you want it to follow the FOC or will the two troops and HQ be taken care of?

Blood Angels

Blood Angels

HQ
Librarian w/jump pack - 125pts

Troops
10 man Assault Squad w/ Power Weapon - 205pts
10 man Assault Squad w/Power Weapon - 205pts

Fast Attack
Landspeeder w/multimelta and heavy bolter - 70pts

Total 605pts

HQ
Librarian w/jump pack - 125pts

Elites
2 Sanguinary Priests w/ups - 125

Troops
10 man Assault Squad w/2 Infernus Pistols and Power Weapon - 235pts
10 man Assault Squad w/2 Meltaguns and Power Weapon - 225pts
10 man Assault Squad w/2 Meltaguns and Power Weapon - 225pts

Fast Attack
Landspeeder Typhoon with multimelta - 100pts
Landspeeder w/multimelta and heavy bolter - 70pts
Landspeeder w/multimelta and heavy bolter - 70pts

Total 1200pts

For 2000pts, add another Sanguinary Priest with jump pack and add an 11 man death company with 2 power weapons, Lemartes and a Death Company Dreadnought in a Stormraven Gunship.

With Nids I'm somewhat limited in the figures I have. Come up with whatever you think seems interesting, and I'll let you know what I'm missing or need to change? I've got a bunch of painted Hormagaunts somewhere, as well as at least one HT, a Carnifex, 3 Lictors, Zoanthrope, Hive/Tyrant Guard (2), Venomthrope and a little bit more. Might have some Gargoyles as well (not sure) and definitely have Termagants. Not sure how many warriors - probably not too many, though I was proxying some aliens figures as melee-only Warriors at one stage in friendly CP games (on 60mm oversized bases since thats all they would fit on!)

For Deathwatch.. hm.. I'm assuming that there are no current rules for them now? (I had a PDF of them since the original rules, GKs seem to be a bit too psychic and specialised (and too CC-oriented), so maybe the Vanilla SM list heavy on Van/Sternguard with SM characters as counts-as Inquisitors? Unless you have other strong feelings to a different end.

re- DW detatchment - I was assuming the PDF rules I have somewhere were still valid for the current rules. So I was seeing them as a 600-pt force at most which would also work as an ally to other Imperial forces.




alanmckenzie - thanks for the BA lists. I'll have a proper look at them tomorrow as I need to get to bed now.

And thanks!