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 LordofHats wrote:

This. I worked on Christmas Eve and received no extra pay. There is no law that demands this and Federal holidays are only required to be observed by the state.

True, though Christmas Eve isn't a federal holiday.

 LordofHats wrote:

Typically a full time job will probably give someone most of these days off work (but may not be paid).

Then there are the employers that consider holidays to be mandatory vacation days. These employers are, of course, bastards.

 dogma wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

This. I worked on Christmas Eve and received no extra pay. There is no law that demands this and Federal holidays are only required to be observed by the state.

True, though Christmas Eve isn't a federal holiday.

Well, in 2012 it was...

 d-usa wrote:
Remember, US workers have it better than any other nation in the world!

Yes, so we should actually bring the American Working standards down to match the rest of the world immediately.

American workers are a bunch of no-goodnicks and roust-a-bouts in comparison.

It's a good thing Hobby Lobby wants to fight for it's right to deny other people their rights. I try to avoid that place whenever convenient. I'll be sure to try extra hard now.

Maybe they should stop covering anti-depressants because people should just "think themselves happy" like Paul said? Or maybe stop covering allergy meds because it's all in their head anyway. Or stop covering diabetes medicine because those people just need to lose weight (body is a temple, afterall). Or stop covering vaccines because they cause terrible unproven side effects. Or stop covering anything that assists in blood flow because it's a sexual enhancer and that's dirty. Or stop covering anything at all, because faith should be enough to get healing.

I don't like where this is potentially going. Not saying it absolutely would, but the potential is scary.

 dogma wrote:
True, though Christmas Eve isn't a federal holiday.

True . Though, FedEx policy is that holiday pay is given on Christmas Eve IF someone has been working there a year and I haven't been there that long. Way back many summers ago when I worked at Sonic, I was working there on Christmas eve and Christmas day. Flip'n burgers.

 kronk wrote:
The only news I have is that I still get their weekly email with 40% off coupons and 50% off framing, and they're still fething closed on Sundays.

They did a great job with my Badab War Poster, though.

a framing shop would most likely done a better job for half the price


I tend to support a local economy, no big box stores or mega chains. These days they need the help

 DIDM wrote:

 kronk wrote:
The only news I have is that I still get their weekly email with 40% off coupons and 50% off framing, and they're still fething closed on Sundays.

They did a great job with my Badab War Poster, though.

a framing shop would most likely done a better job for half the price


I tend to support a local economy, no big box stores or mega chains. These days they need the help

It looks fine to me.

 DIDM wrote:
I tend to support a local economy, no big box stores or mega chains. These days they need the help

Well, sure. That makes sense. Since they're offering better workmanship for half the price, they're getting run out of business by big box stores.

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
That's a flail

This is a mace:

Spoiler:

I'm OK with people using those on the Hobby Lobby as well.

At least the poor employee getting bashed with it will have their medical costs for *that* paid.
Unless you masturbate on it and somehow get her pregnant by hitting them with it, I suppose...

Now that would be a terrifying weapon, a weapon that could induce pregnancy

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Now that would be a terrifying weapon, a weapon that could induce pregnancy

The World of Synnibar?

Not unlike the hullabaloo about chick-fil-a, this doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Everything you ever buy supports something you probably don't care for in some capacity, and their super glue accelerant spray is dirt cheap.

They're a bit ignorant on the subject of the morning after pill, unfortunately.

 Monster Rain wrote:
Not unlike the hullabaloo about chick-fil-a, this doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Everything you ever buy supports something you probably don't care for in some capacity, and their super glue accelerant spray is dirt cheap.

They're a bit ignorant on the subject of the morning after pill, unfortunately.

This. I just hope it doesn't result in prices going up on the Golden Taflon brushes I buy from Hobby Lobby's masterpiece series.

 Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
It's a good thing Hobby Lobby wants to fight for it's right to deny other people their rights.

What is scarier is that there are companies that don't provide any health benefits. Just how evil are those for 'denying other people their rights' !!!

Oh wait, employee subsidized health care is NOT a right... Seems some people for get this.

CptJake wrote:

 Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
It's a good thing Hobby Lobby wants to fight for it's right to deny other people their rights.

What is scarier is that there are companies that don't provide any health benefits. Just how evil are those for 'denying other people their rights' !!!

Oh wait, employee subsidized health care is NOT a right... Seems some people for get this.

If the law tells you to include contraceptives for your employees and you don't you're denying them a right written down in law. Pretending otherwise is pretty silly.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

CptJake wrote:

 Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
It's a good thing Hobby Lobby wants to fight for it's right to deny other people their rights.

What is scarier is that there are companies that don't provide any health benefits. Just how evil are those for 'denying other people their rights' !!!

Oh wait, employee subsidized health care is NOT a right... Seems some people for get this.

If the law tells you to include contraceptives for your employees and you don't you're denying them a right written down in law. Pretending otherwise is pretty silly.

This. And a company that picked and chose for arbitrary reasons is guilty of denying as far as I'm concerned.

Employer provided health care is not a right. If it was every single employer would have to offer to sudsidize health care.

Pretending otherwise is pretty silly.

The law says they're supposed to, so it kind of is now. If a job is supposed to give you a break and they don't , would you get upset?

Well, they are going to be fined for not doing it and seem to be okay with that.

It would seem that if you want these things covered by your employer, don't work at Hobby Lobby.

Or employers can just not be dicks to their employees for stupid reasons.

Heh.

But where would we park our unicorns?

Not in handicapped spaces for a start.

CptJake wrote:
Employer provided health care is not a right. If it was every single employer would have to offer to sudsidize health care.

Pretending otherwise is pretty silly.

If the law tells you to include contraceptives for your employees and you don't you're denying them a right written down in law. Pretending otherwise is pretty silly.

CptJake wrote:
Employer provided health care is not a right. If it was every single employer would have to offer to sudsidize health care.

Pretending otherwise is pretty silly.

While we could have an esoteric discussion about the true nature of rights, for all intents and purposes a law which stipulates that person X must provide something to person Y is granting person Y the right to that thing.

Well, we do have the right to health care.

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:
Well, we do have the right to health care.

Maybe in the UK. Sadly, this opinion is not Universal.

I will miss Hobby Lobby. They have airbrush parts and a limited selection of Vallejo paints.

 Easy E wrote:

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:
Well, we do have the right to health care.

Maybe in the UK. Sadly, this opinion is not Universal.

Heh, that's funny. You typed "sadly" when you meant "fortunately."

 Seaward wrote:

 Easy E wrote:

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:
Well, we do have the right to health care.

Maybe in the UK. Sadly, this opinion is not Universal.

Heh, that's funny. You typed "sadly" when you meant "fortunately."

Because watching those less fortunate than you (universal "you", not personal "you"), suffer, provides endless hours of priceless entertainment, am I right? Where is that "high five" emoticon? Oh, here it is:

Sadly, the mindset of "if you are poor and didn't work hard enough to have enough money for healthcare then you deserve to die" is not uncommon in the US.