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Hi guys, just ran out of my last of Delvan mud. Too many zombie, alas.

Anyone know a good substitute now that Delvan isn't produced? I heard the changed the formulae when they switched paint generations.

Agrax Earthshade. And is a precise match *that* critical when you paint zombies? really?

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Agrax Earthshade. And is a precise match *that* critical when you paint zombies? really?

Well no, but I use it on a lot of things. Zombies just happen to be on my painting table at the moment. A precise match is not directly "needed" but if there is one or extremely close I'd like it. Especially if it is cheaper than Agrax (I would have to send 2 hours just to get to the game store, pick some up, and get home.)

Agrax is pretty close, although I have found myself using the new sepia one a bit more where I sometimes used Devlan, depends on the colour it's being applied to.

feelinstrangelyfine wrote:
Agrax is pretty close, although I have found myself using the new sepia one a bit more where I sometimes used Devlan, depends on the colour it's being applied to.

one of the things I heard was that Agrax dried to a more glossy finish like the old inks, instead of the matte of the washes.

 lord marcus wrote:

feelinstrangelyfine wrote:
Agrax is pretty close, although I have found myself using the new sepia one a bit more where I sometimes used Devlan, depends on the colour it's being applied to.

one of the things I heard was that Agrax dried to a more glossy finish like the old inks, instead of the matte of the washes.

Haven't had that issue myself yet, at least on pale blue, which was what I used it over most recently, from experience so far the finish on the new washes can depend on what colours you are using them over, and how much you apply. I haven't had any problems with overly glossy finishes when dry myself.

I've found in a pinch The Army Painter Warpaints Strong Tone works for Agrax Earthshade. They're a bit cheaper and come with more in them. I use them for airbrushing my Iron Warriors vehicles. The Dark Tone is also a good substitute for Badab Black, and way better than Nuln Oil.

 Skoda wrote:
I've found in a pinch The Army Painter Warpaints Strong Tone works for Agrax Earthshade. They're a bit cheaper and come with more in them. I use them for airbrushing my Iron Warriors vehicles. The Dark Tone is also a good substitute for Badab Black, and way better than Nuln Oil.

thanks!

Super Wash D Brown by Coat d'Arms? That's an identical to Agrax. It's cheaper but bigger (18ml)

Vallejo makes a umber wash that is pretty close to delvan mud:

http://lascannonslances.blogspot.nl/2010/08/great-vallejo-wash-review.html

The Coat d'Arms wash is good as well. Though I like their super shader line better than their wash line.

The army painter warpaints present an exact match full review with excellent comparison photographs here:

http://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2012/02/review-army-painter-warpaints.html

Scroll down to where you see this pic:

I second the Army Painter. I ran out of Devlan Mud half way through my Skaven Clanrats and you can't even tell the difference between which ones were washed with which.

I'm a bit wary of the 'ink' descriptor - does it have the same flat matt finish as Devlan Mud?