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Someone comes up to you and offers you immortality. And this person will give it too you for no price save for your mortality in exchange for their power to grant immortality to only you. Would you take it? Knowing you cannot exchange your immortality for someone elses mortality. You are stuck as is.
If you say yes, the man dies immediately and you gain immortality and invincibility .
Okay Guys I was asked about this a little while ago and I know there was a thread Recently that asked What if you were a God. I thought it would be an enlightening to see peoples reactions to it.
I want to ask about Immortality, Only immortality now here is some rules with your immortality.
-you have the ability to live forever, you can't die (neither does your body), you regenerate all your wounds at an extremely fast rate, even beheading, you just reassemble, you are invincible
-You do not evolve
-You cannot have anyone else join you.
- if it is incinerated you just are reborn the same as you were before incineration with memory of the event too.
- You are ordinary
What would you do?
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
Nope, the merry go round of watching friends and loved ones growing old and dying would be too depressing, let alone seeing it happen to civilizations.
But to answer the OP, I would not choose immortality. My curiosity for where humanity and the universe is headed is not great enough to sacrifice my ability to die.
GW Rules Interpretation Syndrom. GWRIS. Causes people to second guess a rule in a book because that's what they would have had to do in a GW system.
SilverMK2 wrote: "Well, I have epilepsy and was holding a knife when I had a seizure... I couldn't help it! I was just trying to chop the vegetables for dinner!"
Yes, I would use it for the betterment of mankind over thousands of years, I would never show my hand, alway a drifter. And then when the time is right, When humanity is on our last leg, I will emerge and lead us to a better world.
Mattman154 wrote: My curiosity for where humanity and the universe is headed is not great enough to sacrifice my ability to die.
Both the universe and humanity are ultimately going to end. Having to live without either for an eternity, particularly humanity, would be hell.
Yes, those are the words I was looking for!
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GW Rules Interpretation Syndrom. GWRIS. Causes people to second guess a rule in a book because that's what they would have had to do in a GW system.
SilverMK2 wrote: "Well, I have epilepsy and was holding a knife when I had a seizure... I couldn't help it! I was just trying to chop the vegetables for dinner!"
Depends on one thing, I guess. Is the material universe finite or infinite? If it's infinite, then yes, without a second thought. If I'm stuck with a perpetual existence after even matter has dissolved into entropy, then it doesn't really sound so appealling. Although I might still do it since the sheer amount of experience lived before I get to there could be worth it.
Life's primordial drive is to perpetuate it's form, the only reason why we proceed by reproduction to acheive that is because nature hasn't found another way for beings as complex as us. There is no morality in death, no reason to submit to inexistence.
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
If the universe is going to repeat and an infinite number of universes are to follow then fact states that at some random point in the future the cast of Jersey Shore rule of the world.
Sound good? No, infinity sucks.
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Glorioski wrote: If the universe is going to repeat and an infinite number of universes will follow then you can definitely look forward to one day. at some random point in the future, where the cast of Jersey Shore are rulers of the world.
Sound good? No, infinity sucks.
Or maybe every universe is just like the last, so every time it goes through the motions again another one of you pops up and you have a friend to share infinity with! Then another.. Then another...
GW Rules Interpretation Syndrom. GWRIS. Causes people to second guess a rule in a book because that's what they would have had to do in a GW system.
SilverMK2 wrote: "Well, I have epilepsy and was holding a knife when I had a seizure... I couldn't help it! I was just trying to chop the vegetables for dinner!"
Glorioski wrote: If the universe is going to repeat and an infinite number of universes will follow then you can definitely look forward to one day. at some random point in the future, where the cast of Jersey Shore are rulers of the world.
Sound good? No, infinity sucks.
Or maybe every universe is just like the last, so every time it goes through the motions again another one of you pops up and you have a friend to share infinity with! Then another.. Then another...
I am slamming my op foot down and saying that probably won't happen. Ever. By then you would of slipped into madness.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
Glorioski wrote: If the universe is going to repeat and an infinite number of universes will follow then you can definitely look forward to one day. at some random point in the future, where the cast of Jersey Shore are rulers of the world.
Sound good? No, infinity sucks.
Or maybe every universe is just like the last, so every time it goes through the motions again another one of you pops up and you have a friend to share infinity with! Then another.. Then another...
I am slamming my op foot down and saying that probably won't happen. Ever. By then you would of slipped into madness.
You are a merciful God.
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
Glorioski wrote: If the universe is going to repeat and an infinite number of universes will follow then you can definitely look forward to one day. at some random point in the future, where the cast of Jersey Shore are rulers of the world.
Sound good? No, infinity sucks.
Or maybe every universe is just like the last, so every time it goes through the motions again another one of you pops up and you have a friend to share infinity with! Then another.. Then another...
I am slamming my op foot down and saying that probably won't happen. Ever. By then you would of slipped into madness.
Hey now, if I'm the only being left in existence and my form takes up infinity, madness would be completely normal. Like living with Frazzled
GW Rules Interpretation Syndrom. GWRIS. Causes people to second guess a rule in a book because that's what they would have had to do in a GW system.
SilverMK2 wrote: "Well, I have epilepsy and was holding a knife when I had a seizure... I couldn't help it! I was just trying to chop the vegetables for dinner!"
2013/01/08 00:14:26
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
Nope, because there would be no incentive to do anything (like making myself more attractive to the opposite sex so we can have sexual relationship) as my time is infinite, I would outlive everything and be forever alone not being able to have coitus with anyone anymore and I would not get
any vag cause I would look like a freak since people will have evolved so much that it would be like fething an ape for them.
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No, being immortal but still being able to be injured would be a huge downside. What if I'm kidnapped by a terror organisation and tortured until I work for them? They can't kill me through torture, so they have no reason to hold back, but I can still experience the pain.
Everything being immortal is useful for would be offset by the fact that it'd either destroy my body over and over and over and/or cause immeasurable amounts of pain. Some things would be outright impossible (like exploring deep ocean trenches, where my body would still succumb to the pressure every time I tried) even with immortality. The advantages of it are far outweighed by the inherent disadvantages.
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Kovnik Obama wrote: Depends on one thing, I guess. Is the material universe finite or infinite? If it's infinite, then yes, without a second thought. If I'm stuck with a perpetual existence after even matter has dissolved into entropy, then it doesn't really sound so appealling. Although I might still do it since the sheer amount of experience lived before I get to there could be worth it.
Took the words out of my mouth.
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Glorioski wrote: If the universe is going to repeat and an infinite number of universes are to follow then fact states that at some random point in the future the cast of Jersey Shore rule of the world.
Sound good? No, infinity sucks.
Honestly, that sounds like a ton of fun for an invincible person.
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Kovnik Obama wrote: Depends on one thing, I guess. Is the material universe finite or infinite? If it's infinite, then yes, without a second thought. If I'm stuck with a perpetual existence after even matter has dissolved into entropy, then it doesn't really sound so appealling. Although I might still do it since the sheer amount of experience lived before I get to there could be worth it.
Took the words out of my mouth.
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Glorioski wrote: If the universe is going to repeat and an infinite number of universes are to follow then fact states that at some random point in the future the cast of Jersey Shore rule of the world.
Sound good? No, infinity sucks.
Honestly, that sounds like a ton of fun for an invincible person.
Sounds like a lot of fun if you get to save the world by killing the Jersey Shore. Imagine slicing Snooki in half or drawing and quartering The Situation in order to save the world. That would be the best afternoon ever...
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Kovnik Obama wrote: Depends on one thing, I guess. Is the material universe finite or infinite? If it's infinite, then yes, without a second thought. If I'm stuck with a perpetual existence after even matter has dissolved into entropy, then it doesn't really sound so appealling. Although I might still do it since the sheer amount of experience lived before I get to there could be worth it.
Immortality necessitates an infinite universe, as you have just been granted the ability to defeat entropy. Therefor, as long as you exist the universe can't experience heat death. Hooray physics!
2013/01/08 01:10:16
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
Id ask if he wanted to die and if he is trying to get rid of his immortality. If that was his only salvation I would take it even knowing I could not do the same.
What would happen if I went comatose or hibernation along the lines of millions of years? Would the rules stop the coma or prolonged sleep? When the universe compresses back to zero what happens to my body and consciousness?
2013/01/08 01:10:36
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
Yes, because it would be funny to break the laws of physics like that. I'd accept immortality just to see how completely screwed up the universe got when things like thermodynamics ceased to function.
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2013/01/08 01:15:07
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
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IDK, I might take it. Of course I would want to know what my Mortality entails, if I am losing something tangible I might not take the offer.
Peregrine wrote: Yes, because it would be funny to break the laws of physics like that. I'd accept immortality just to see how completely screwed up the universe got when things like thermodynamics ceased to function.
I don't think Immortality as presented in the OP breaks any laws. Assumedly what is making you immortal is some wierd qwirk that prevents your body from degenerating as it ages. Which itself wouldn't violate any laws. You would still eat, drink, and sleep.
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Peregrine wrote: Yes, because it would be funny to break the laws of physics like that. I'd accept immortality just to see how completely screwed up the universe got when things like thermodynamics ceased to function.
Which laws is that breaking? Helk the immortal might be the big bang O.o
And on the immortal thing thats your interpretation.
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2013/01/08 01:28:23
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
Grey Templar wrote: I don't think Immortality as presented in the OP breaks any laws. Assumedly what is making you immortal is some wierd qwirk that prevents your body from degenerating as it ages. Which itself wouldn't violate any laws. You would still eat, drink, and sleep.
Sure it does. There is no escape from either the inevitable heat death of the universe (if it doesn't collapse back into itself) or the end of the universe. However, immortality requires breaking those: you have to have an eternal universe, but you also have to have an immortal being still alive in it. Besides the obvious fact that your body/mind/etc would be operating in direct contradiction to the laws of thermodynamics at that point, you'd also have to have an equally-violating area of human-habitable conditions since otherwise you would just instantly die and be reborn in an infinite cycle for the rest of eternity.
And then of course beyond the heat death of the universe there's things like the probably-inevitable decay of all matter, etc, which your existence would also require avoiding. Since these are inevitable consequences of fudamental laws of physics you'd have to completely re-write those fundamental laws and create a universe that would no longer be recognizable as ours.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
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But only at the time that problem would occur, and since the universe is getting destroyed at that moment I'm sure plenty of other wonky things are happening.
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2013/01/08 01:46:27
Subject: Re:A question on Immortality to Dakka Dakka
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