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Fixture of Dakka






Arlington, Texas

The opportunity to live a million lifetimes would be too good to pass up. Live one lifetime of piety, one of total sensuality, another of cruelty, it all sounds too fun! When you eventually became an insane mess by the end you get what you deserve for all that you tried too. Seems poetic.

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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





I'd answer yes without hesitation. Death is bs.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Spitsbergen

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Seattle WA

I want to see all that can be seen.

I'll take it.


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 Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
The opportunity to live a million lifetimes would be too good to pass up. Live one lifetime of piety, one of total sensuality, another of cruelty, it all sounds too fun! When you eventually became an insane mess by the end you get what you deserve for all that you tried too. Seems poetic.


Will you be pious or cruel next?

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Why does one assume that living forever would drive a person crazy?
   
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 Dreadwinter wrote:
Why does one assume that living forever would drive a person crazy?


Probably because after a period of time you would become incredibly bored. Not to mention absolutly jaded. You think your Grandparents are boring try someone thats lived 10 times as long and seen virtually everything.

So eventually you would become quite depressed.


Plus you would be alone. Your friends and family would all eventually die, and you are stuck with the sad reality that any new friends or family you make will die too. All that without the consolation that you too would eventually die so your suffering would end.

Perhaps you would be fine for a few hundred years, or maybe even a thousand, but eventually you would just want it to stop.

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Fixture of Dakka






Arlington, Texas

 Ma55ter_fett wrote:

Will you be pious or cruel next?


We'll find out as my followers learn from my teachings and choose their own path. The Canneruses of tomorrow will comprise a variety of walks of life.

 Dreadwinter wrote:
Why does one assume that living forever would drive a person crazy?


The vast majority of old people? That aside, there's not much other direction for the brain to go. At some point you'll stop relating to everyone around you and your beliefs will take off in some weird direction that makes perfect sense to you.

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Fixture of Dakka





Melbourne

Hang on. Are you saying i'd get to be Captain Jack Harkness? Awesome.

I'd have to take the immortality. To many awesome things in the Universe that i need to see and do.

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 Asherian Command wrote:
Well I did mention if you are like completely destroyed you'll comeback, but not at that instant you'll continue to exist just not in human form.


Anything that could reasonably be called "you" existing at the heat death of the universe would violate the laws of thermodynamics.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
Probably because after a period of time you would become incredibly bored. Not to mention absolutly jaded. You think your Grandparents are boring try someone thats lived 10 times as long and seen virtually everything.


Most of that is due to chemicals in the brain. I hear new music now and I don't get that excited, and it isn't because I've heard new music before. I'd heard lots of new music when I was 20, but I still got a rush when I heard something new and amazing. It's because the chemicals that used to rush through my brain when I heard new music don't happen on the same level any more.

Take that effect, and apply it to things that are far more important than music. New experiences (especially scary/adrenaline pumping ones) don't produce the same buzz (I went on that rollercoaster in Vegas last year, and instead of getting the buzz I would have 10 years ago, it was mostly just kind of annoying). Meeting new people isn't as exciting as it once was (on the plus side it's also less nervous). And I'm not that old. Another 10 or 20 years and sex will be less important, not because I will have had more than I'd had when I was 20, but because the chemicals driving arousal and released during sex simply aren't released in the same quantities. Nor are the chemicals released that drive infatuation, or countless other human experiences.

If you are immortal and unchanging, then the chemicals in your brain will remain constant. You will get wiser, but you won't get any less vital.

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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Arlington, Texas

 Peregrine wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
Well I did mention if you are like completely destroyed you'll comeback, but not at that instant you'll continue to exist just not in human form.


Anything that could reasonably be called "you" existing at the heat death of the universe would violate the laws of thermodynamics.


Hypothetically anything being immortal and unchanging already violates most of the laws we know, so why would this one point be more offensive than any other?

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 Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
 Peregrine wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
Well I did mention if you are like completely destroyed you'll comeback, but not at that instant you'll continue to exist just not in human form.


Anything that could reasonably be called "you" existing at the heat death of the universe would violate the laws of thermodynamics.


Hypothetically anything being immortal and unchanging already violates most of the laws we know, so why would this one point be more offensive than any other?


That's my point. To become immortal and unchanging you have to break the laws of physics, so I'd take the offer just to see what would happen in a universe in which all the fundamental laws of physics just got rewritten. The heat death of the universe is just one obvious example that you can't loophole your way out of.

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 Dreadwinter wrote:
Why does one assume that living forever would drive a person crazy?

Robert Adam's Milo Morai was quite sane.

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Yes, I'd want to be immortal so I could keep score. No more history written by the victors, I'll write the history books.

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Sheffield, UK

 Mr Nobody wrote:
Yes, I'd want to be immortal so I could keep score. No more history written by the victors, I'll write the history books.

Because immortal indestructible man isn't a victor?!?

I'd take it.

How unchanging are you? Does cutting your hair also cause immediate regeneration?

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 sebster wrote:
I'd answer yes without hesitation. Death is bs.


Quoted for truth.

There's a life time of things to see and do. Live a life in every country on earth, know as much as you can, see your species travel to the stars... the possibilities are limitless... and if we manage to really gak ourselves up you'd be there to lead the survivors back to a solid civilization.

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I assume we've all realized that we're discussing being The Emperor, absent all the mind magic.

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The Empire State

Well, I am already Ordinary, may as well be ordinary with immortality.

 
   
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Even if you go mad for a billion years you still have plenty of time afterwards to be sane

The super healing is interesting - would it stop you being augmented with machines, implants or genetic modifications?

   
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Kamloops, BC

If you're immortal won't you get to the point where you're just floating in space constantly freezing and always feeling like you have no air in you're lungs why would you want that?
   
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Maryland

I have to ask - did the person who offered me the immortality have it in the first place? Can it then be passed on?

If so, then hell yes - it gives me all the time in the world for the Chosen One to be born, and then pass on the immortality to him/her.

   
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Melbourne

 Cheesecat wrote:
If you're immortal won't you get to the point where you're just floating in space constantly freezing and always feeling like you have no air in you're lungs why would you want that?
Eventually you would have to float across a habitable planet that you could settle and rule over for a few billion years. Then when that solar system goes bye bye its back to floating again for a few eons.

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I'd like to live for a couple of thousand years. There's so many possibilities... 75 odd years seems like the blink of an eye to me.

I'd have to pass on immortality though. There would be a point where you've done everything and it becomes boring. Like a sandbox videogame, only you wouldn't be able to turn it off. You'd become a gibbering maniac drifting through space...
   
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This is the easiest question I have ever been asked.

Yes. Obviously.

Even if the universe itself were not infinite save for myself, and knowing that ultimately I would be stuck in a Hellish void wherein only my own madness could occupy my attention, the answer would still be yes, yes, a thousand times yes.
   
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Relapse wrote:
Nope, the merry go round of watching friends and loved ones growing old and dying would be too depressing, let alone seeing it happen to civilizations.


Indeed, I can't phrase it better than this.

The only alternative to avoid insanity would be to complete divorce yourself from humanity, which sounds like a fairly crappy eternity.

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All I’m saying is this. Nobody has to die. The only reason people die, is because everyone does it. You all just go along with it. It’s rubbish, death. It’s stupid. I don’t want nothing to do with it.

In all seriousness though, no. There's likely to be some point where I'll just be tired of it all. If there was the option to cash in that immortality when I want, I'd be all over that deal, but otherwise, no.

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Holy Terra

Why is this question reminds me on C.C from "Code Geass"?

Anyway, the answer is - why not? As long as you ca do the same thing that guy do with you. Exchange someones immortality for your mortality.


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I'd be suspicious as to why the man gave it up in the first place, and why you couldn't,

   
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Only if I get a sweet theme song by Queen and the chance to battle other immortals to cut off their heads and gain the power of the Quickening.

Edit: I'm also not convinced Madness is by default "a bad thing".

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I'm going to say yes. I'd much rather exist than not exist and to be honest it's going to be rather hard to run out of novel experiences while the world is still relatively intact and we've got another few hundred million years of that probably.

The only real key would be finding a way to launch myself out of the solar system before the sun starts to die don't wind up at the center of the damn thing for another billion years while it decays, condemning me to an extraordinarily long period of fiery crushing torment.

I figure once I'm floating out in the emptiness of space until pretty much the heat death of the universe and beyond, after a relatively small time of being tormented by total isolation I'll go utterly mad and start hallucinating some semblance of an environment for myself. It won't -really- exist but after a few hundred years I won't even know the difference.

That's really a worse case scenario too. I think given a couple million years to really learn how my own mind works, I can just by practice work up some ability to influence my own dreams and could even set up my hallucination universe to be rather pleasant.

Even if all that is kaput, and I don't wind up hallucinating me an existence I figure floating for all eternity in a void of literally nothing becomes functionally identical to being dead in the first place. With no stimuli of any sort there ceases to be a difference between being awake and in dreamless sleep. I'm basically just buying a much longer life than anyone else.

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