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2013/01/26 22:43:32
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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 DarthMarko wrote:Huh ? He didn't beat him fairly ? He punched him straight in the face IIRC...
Also Sevatar is cool, but A-DB went little to far with him...
How do you mean? As far as I remember it, he didn't seem to be too over the top with him - especially for someone who's supposed to be one of the best fighters in all the legions.
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2013/01/26 22:52:59
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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Cyrene, for me she symbollized the death of innocence for both sides of the Heresy, first being blinded by the Emperor for the crime of worshiping him, and second dying at the hands of the custodes for the crime of rebelling against him(the emp). She's the most tragic character in the whole tale.
http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=argell+tal#/d4s6vg9
Somehow I knew she would die a horrific death, innocence has no place in 40k.
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2013/01/27 00:59:41
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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It's good to see Cyrene get a mention. 
She had great chemistry with Argel Tal in their scenes together.
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2013/01/27 06:03:04
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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She had great chemistry with Argel Tal in their scenes together.
They might not be able to physically bond with women but from recent books its pretty clear that Astartes are capable of romantic attachments, like Talos and Octavia.
I can imagine the other Word Bearers shouting for Monarchia as Calth burns and Argel Tal wispering "for Cyrene".
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2013/01/27 06:22:39
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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 Just Dave wrote: DarthMarko wrote: Lucius was beaten by Loken, then he whooop Loken's arse second time, then Tarvitz (on Istvaan) beat him in the same way as Loken did first time.....
Spoilers, man. I haven't even read Angel Exterminatus.
You should, it makes Perturabo one of the easily most likable of the Primarchs.
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2013/01/27 06:23:19
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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I fething hate that.
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2013/01/27 06:31:08
Subject: horus heresy series fav character
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Garviel Loken and the Mournival, Alpharius & Omegon, Kai Zulane
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2013/01/27 06:45:01
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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If that was directed at what I said. Then I would ask what's not to like about it???
He is either a non psyker magnus who makes up for by being more of a warrior. Or a more scholarly Angron who does not suffer from the Nails. On top of that he has the elites of his Legion play 40K. Yes 40k but because its so far in the future. GW finally made the game mechanics effectivally real and CGI game play.
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2013/01/27 06:59:33
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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 Stonerhino wrote:If that was directed at what I said. Then I would ask what's not to like about it???
He is either a non psyker magnus who makes up for by being more of a warrior. Or a more scholarly Angron who does not suffer from the Nails. On top of that he has the elites of his Legion play 40K. Yes 40k but because its so far in the future. GW finally made the game mechanics effectivally real and CGI game play.
I was little pissed because Mcneil described him in the "same way as Magnus" in TS (almost mirroring him)...I mean their characteristc's are somewhat different but his writing makes them the same, and he can be borignly predictible...
Also I too hate that Perturabo (who suppose to be sadistic degenerate - like French wroted in "Warmaster"), is portrayed as khm, good guy...!?
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/01/27 07:05:26
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Yeah, Perturabo was a sociopathic sadist.
Now he's a cool dude?
lolno
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2013/01/27 07:14:31
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Verses wrote: DarthMarko wrote:Huh ? He didn't beat him fairly ? He punched him straight in the face IIRC...
Also Sevatar is cool, but A-DB went little to far with him...
How do you mean? As far as I remember it, he didn't seem to be too over the top with him - especially for someone who's supposed to be one of the best fighters in all the legions.
A-DB made him equal to Sigismund (you know -Emperor champion),and he killed like 8000 dark angels after he hitched a ride on a fighter by hanging onto the hull one-handed while its in the middle of a dogfight and using it to board an enemy craft.
And in the end, when they are captured, Sevatar has an escape plan, kill anybody who tries to stop them getting away (without their PA)...
I'mean DA look like completely r*****d in that book.....
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Yes 
Bad guy sometimes needs to be a bad guy...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/01/27 07:18:08
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Magnus was always among the most sympathetic traitor Primarchs, so him getting a sympathetic POV is understandable.
Perturabo? Come on, not everything needs to be super tragic and "OH IMAGINE THE GOOD HE COULD HAVE DONE IF THE WORLD WERE NOT SO CRUEL!"
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2013/01/27 07:24:45
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 Void__Dragon wrote:Magnus was always among the most sympathetic traitor Primarchs, so him getting a sympathetic POV is understandable.
Perturabo? Come on, not everything needs to be super tragic and "OH IMAGINE THE GOOD HE COULD HAVE DONE IF THE WORLD WERE NOT SO CRUEL!"
But that is my point...Mcneil showed him as a guy who was a real tragic victim - you know always in the trenches/mud, " IW weren't in the picture " (really - this pissed him of *some dude made a picture which only showed IW aphotecary while IF raised the flag*)+
they don't know how good we are and all that...
I was like - NOT again...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/01/27 07:27:33
Subject: horus heresy series fav character
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Dangerous Skeleton Champion
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He could easily be viewed as a sociopathic sadist from an outside obsever, even one very close to him. He does not confide in others and his non-emotional approach to war are still present. Angel Exterminatus just gives us a look into his soft insides.
For Perturabo being unempathic and cruel to the world is the best way to cope with his situation. He will also stubornly stick to a path once he startes it. So even after he realises he made the wrong choice he will not change corse.
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2013/01/27 07:29:22
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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^ Khm, irony 
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/01/27 07:48:29
Subject: horus heresy series fav character
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Dangerous Skeleton Champion
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That was just Fulgrim being hurtfull when he didn't get his way.
Perturabo, is a bad guy because he chose to be one. So there is nothing tragic about it. Magnus does not have that choice untill it is to late to do anything about it.
The fact that they both want to be something other then warriors does not make them the same. It only shows that the primarchs were ment for more after the great crusade was over.
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2013/01/27 08:03:42
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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I don't want to see Perturabo's fething soft insides, lol.
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2013/01/27 08:04:41
Subject: horus heresy series fav character
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Stonerhino wrote:
The fact that they both want to be something other then warriors does not make them the same. It only shows that the primarchs were ment for more after the great crusade was over.
But they were failures evenutally...I mean do you want dipomat who goes into rage and burnes his homeworld or a scholar who is hooked on warp?
Only one who wasn't was Rob (who conquered most worlds with diplomacy), everyone else,meh,......
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/01/27 16:59:01
Subject: horus heresy series fav character
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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How do you know sevetar killed 8000 dark angels? That's just ridiculous.
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All your prayers will go unanswered -
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2013/01/27 17:46:27
Subject: horus heresy series fav character
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Fixture of Dakka
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It's called hyperbole.
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2013/01/30 02:25:08
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Paladin of the Wall
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Garro is my favorite, but a close second goes to Warsmith Dantioch (I think that's the name) from Iron Within.
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2013/02/03 23:29:32
Subject: horus heresy series fav character
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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DarthMarko wrote: Stonerhino wrote:
The fact that they both want to be something other then warriors does not make them the same. It only shows that the primarchs were ment for more after the great crusade was over.
But they were failures evenutally...I mean do you want dipomat who goes into rage and burnes his homeworld or a scholar who is hooked on warp?
Only one who wasn't was Rob (who conquered most worlds with diplomacy), everyone else,meh,......
Well the Emperor designed them with a grand vision, and that did not include them being kidnapped by the Chaos Gods as infants and corrupted. It's perfectly plausible they were supposed to have a role after the Crusade was over that didn't include war.
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2013/02/05 00:10:21
Subject: horus heresy series fav character
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So far it's Argel Tal. Just a very likeable character to me.
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2013/02/05 06:14:19
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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Loken is a whiny little bitch, same for his annoying friend, saul tarvits was marginally better, the only loyalist that I liked was the Death Guard guy. In the first three HH books the loyalist are downright awefull, you actually cheer when their betrayed because their whiny, we can't revive Horus because it violates the Imperial truth crap. So far the only loyalist I like are the Raven Guard and the Blood Angels.
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Again I like Cyrene the most because she did nothing to ask for being blinded and later murdered, she worshiped the Emperor, then she served the Word Bearers, and then she was murdered by the guards of the Emperor she use to worship. She was innocent from beginning to end, its her that makes me firmly side with the rebels, yea everybody kills innocents in 40k but the Emperor kills his own innocents who only want to please him.
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Like the great storm of the Horus Heresy, the forces of the True Gods will descend upon the Emperor's minions. The stars will tremble at their passage and the mighty armadas of the Warmaster Abaddon will bring annihilation to a hundred worlds. Know this, for these things will come to pass. |
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2013/02/05 06:44:07
Subject: Re:horus heresy series fav character
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Yeah man Loken not wanting to subject Horus to the suspect Warp witchcraft they've fought and experienced the horrors of firsthand is entirely whiny and illogical.
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2013/02/05 16:00:58
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Characters: Argel Tal, Loken, Ahriman, Julius Kaesoran (Emperors Children 1st captain)
Battle: Istvaan 3 or Prospero in A Thousand Sons
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Chaos Space Marines - Iron Warriors & Night Lords 7900pts 
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2013/02/05 16:58:56
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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Yeah man Loken not wanting to subject Horus to the suspect Warp witchcraft they've fought and experienced the horrors of firsthand is entirely whiny and illogical.
Yea wanting Horus to die, interestingly it was'nt abbadon that massacred imperial troops on the embarcation deck, it was Loken in the name of the Warmaster. He's a hypocritial self rieghtous feth. I laughed when he died.
He's the opposite in mind of my fave Cyrene, loyal, innocent and undeserving of her misfortune, Loken and his annoying friends deserved everything that happened to them.
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Like the great storm of the Horus Heresy, the forces of the True Gods will descend upon the Emperor's minions. The stars will tremble at their passage and the mighty armadas of the Warmaster Abaddon will bring annihilation to a hundred worlds. Know this, for these things will come to pass. |
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2013/02/05 17:00:44
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Norn Queen
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Realy liked Forgemistress Koriel Zeth myself.
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goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
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2013/02/07 22:44:22
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Sofar- Favorite character would have to be "Alpharius" (you guess which one ), Favorite book is Legion, and Favorite battle is Saul Tarvit's Last Stand on Istivaan III Automatically Appended Next Post: ZSO, SAHAAL wrote:Loken is a whiny little bitch, same for his annoying friend, saul tarvits was marginally better, the only loyalist that I liked was the Death Guard guy. In the first three HH books the loyalist are downright awefull, you actually cheer when their betrayed because their whiny, we can't revive Horus because it violates the Imperial truth crap. So far the only loyalist I like are the Raven Guard and the Blood Angels.
Just... ugh
Did you even read the books? The whole bit about everything they have ever known and cared about trampled on by their most trusted brothers? And they still came out of that kicking ass, and all that went down decided to go down swinging in a last stand that defies logic? Y'know, the bit where Saul, a measly captain, held of 4 primarchs and their forces, and only lets up when he is betrayed by Lucius?
I... I just cant... you hurt my brain.
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2013/02/08 01:26:32
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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I... I just cant... you hurt my brain.
I this power you know.
betrayed by Lucius?
Something he should have really seen coming.
bit where Saul, a measly captain, held of 4 primarchs and their forces
Did'nt he run from Agron.
Did you even read the books? The whole bit about everything they have ever known and cared about trampled on by their most trusted brothers?
Everything they were taught was quickly becoming a lie.
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