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ROFL. Nice.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

Kroot, that said, can you find any fault with the Deadzone stuff? Most people are crowing about how awesome it is, the only "hate" comes from the hand placement on that one girl's gun. I'd be interested to see if you can actually find things that are actually bad, as opposed to just you not liking Mantic.

And mentioning nkelsch...best just to tune out at this point.

Fault. It's an interesting term.
Scale creep is perhaps an issue, but then again, the Forgefathers shrunk in size when DreadBall came out, compared to the original plastics, so I see it notsomuch as scale creep but scale being all over the shop. (Another bit of fluff to add - when Orks come of age, they're also given shoes. )
A couple of the Rebs look nice. Rocket Girl looks stupid. The Orks have gone from appalling to okay, The goblin driven gun looks decent, as does the teraton and the vespid or whatever it is, but the only figures shown so far that I'd possibly purchase are the Commissar, the big nasty (Stage 3?) and maybe the Enforcer captain. I'll hold judgement on the stuff that's not been shown yet, because as KoW showed us, final product may not match concept art.

So yeah, back to finding fault. I think the main thing the new figures - the stuff that's been shown so far - makes me feel is satisfied with the stuff I already own. I already own better orks (GW), better "Ripper Suits" (GW, Kromlech), better human rebels (GW, Hasslefree, Copplestone, etc). If I owned no orks, then sure, they'd be an alternative with GW's prices the way they are. But I guess that while the DeadZone figures aren't especially gakky (exepting the mawbeast), I don't find them great either. They're just mediocre. Middle of the road. They're alright, but they're not exciting me or making me want to own them. And let's be frank, that's with Winterdyne's paint on top of them, and he almost always makes figures look pretty effing good. He made the KoW trolls look less gak, after all!

40K with non-40K minis aside, I think the Marauders could make good counts-as Blood Axes in my small 40K army. I'm still not sure I like the Ripper suits, but it may just be the ranged one's wonky arms positioning. The price is certainly better than GW mega-armor, but the look of the armor is different because Marauders don't just Mad Max everything in the Warpath universe. It's not ramshackle enough for 40K Orks like the Kromlech stuff.

 Azazelx wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:

Kroot, that said, can you find any fault with the Deadzone stuff? Most people are crowing about how awesome it is, the only "hate" comes from the hand placement on that one girl's gun. I'd be interested to see if you can actually find things that are actually bad, as opposed to just you not liking Mantic.

And mentioning nkelsch...best just to tune out at this point.

Fault. It's an interesting term.
Scale creep is perhaps an issue, but then again, the Forgefathers shrunk in size when DreadBall came out, compared to the original plastics, so I see it notsomuch as scale creep but scale being all over the shop. (Another bit of fluff to add - when Orks come of age, they're also given shoes. )
A couple of the Rebs look nice. Rocket Girl looks stupid. The Orks have gone from appalling to okay, The goblin driven gun looks decent, as does the teraton and the vespid or whatever it is, but the only figures shown so far that I'd possibly purchase are the Commissar, the big nasty (Stage 3?) and maybe the Enforcer captain. I'll hold judgement on the stuff that's not been shown yet, because as KoW showed us, final product may not match concept art.

So yeah, back to finding fault. I think the main thing the new figures - the stuff that's been shown so far - makes me feel is satisfied with the stuff I already own. I already own better orks (GW), better "Ripper Suits" (GW, Kromlech), better human rebels (GW, Hasslefree, Copplestone, etc). If I owned no orks, then sure, they'd be an alternative with GW's prices the way they are. But I guess that while the DeadZone figures aren't especially gakky (exepting the mawbeast), I don't find them great either. They're just mediocre. Middle of the road. They're alright, but they're not exciting me or making me want to own them. And let's be frank, that's with Winterdyne's paint on top of them, and he almost always makes figures look pretty effing good. He made the KoW trolls look less gak, after all!

You're right, of course, I just asked Kroot because his feelings towards Mantic are very bad usually. Personally, I love the Orx (except the dancer, but I understand their aim with him). I'm BOGOing a bunch of the Orx, as I have the start of a marauder army now, and these Orx look too notch to me. Always subjective, absolutely. But I love them.

 Azazelx wrote:
the vespid or whatever it is

Kraaw iirc. Cool race, along with the Z'zor from Dreadball which I really hope we see more of.

If they make a Zz'or army, my wallet is screwed. Like prison-rape-scene screwed. Lol

Mantic: "Your wallet looks mighty cute in them thar pants."

You got a pretty wallet, boy...

Usually I'm a big fan of greenskins in general. But DZ orx just don't do it for me.
Those hands and faces are nothing like warpath. That guy running like a bad cartoon is still there. That guy with two assult rifles is still there. Ripper suit arms like he's about to hug someone - still there. Dancing sniper - still there. Stupid mawbeasts - still there, though remove that chainsowrd and they are alright.
The only model that looks like it's actually shooting is the little goblin sniper. And that is the only one I like.
They got a terrific paint job and that is all the improvment I see.

Has anyone got their Dreadball season 3 stuff yet and would care to comment?

 timetowaste85 wrote:
If they make a Zz'or army, my wallet is screwed. Like prison-rape-scene screwed. Lol

What an interesting choice of simile...

 Azazelx wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
If they make a Zz'or army, my wallet is screwed. Like prison-rape-scene screwed. Lol

What an interesting choice of simile...

well, we like to keep it classy here on dakka

Well there's a few races from warpath that need padding out, zzor and veermyn. Sounds like an infestation that needs to be zoned out for purification, deadzone style, maybe by a corporation.

Actually, we do.

So, yeah, let's not continue down that particular path, OK?

You're a party pooper, Alphy.

Also, more painted pics are up (email update) but I'm on my phone and can't copy/paste. That ripper suit is gorgeous though... (To my taste).

Open Doors

More painted models I hear you cry? You want more? We’ll give you more…


There is just time to tell you that tickets to our Open Day have gone up on our website! Fancy meeting the designers? Perhaps you’d like a demonstration of the game? Want to see the upcoming miniatures in the flesh? You can do all of this at the Mantic Open Day, where tickets are just £5 for a limited time only.

You’ll get a goodie bag containing around £10 worth of stuff on entry – and a fantastic day out for the family. Head on over to the website and pick up your ticket here.

Oh ok, here’s another pic!

Spoiler:

Marauder Ripper Suit - he has all of the guns.

Have a great weekend!

So long as the toolings fine, I'm going to be very happy with these I think.

*edit* ninja-ed

Pleasantly surprised at how fricken huge second gens are. And even the third gens look considerably larger than I was thinking. That may go a long way to achieving the mad mutant look and differentiating them from zombies of various types. Rebs look wonderful as always.

I'm still a bit put off by the 3rd gen "supertorso" but... it does go a long way to make them huge and creepy.

That's right, I think it was disgusting that that simile was used outside of the context of GW price increases !

Becoming much more hopeful about this with the latest round of pics, the Rebels certainly seem like one of the more characterful factions (and I think one it will probably be easiest to fit miniatures from other ranges into..)

I came across this pic on the Battlesystems FB page:

Very cool, always got to love a shield and a shotgun. Nice figures. Where are all these pics coming from???

A like to keep a couple riot shield and shotgun armed enforcers around. For close encounters.

barnacle111 wrote:
Very cool, always got to love a shield and a shotgun. Nice figures. Where are all these pics coming from???

I came across this pic on the Battlesystems FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Battle-Systems/242636009156445

That battle systems stuff looks pretty neat. Those corporation marines also put forth a strong case for clear bases... helps a bit with immersion. Thanks for sharing the link.

I'm going to keep an eye on battlesystems.. the fact that it's *not* a pdf solution, and is pre-printed, pre-cut, thick card is very appealing.

I'd like to own more terrain, but it competes for painting time with minis. Pre-painted or pre-printed is definitely something I'm happy to roll with in the case of terrain.

I think worldworks were on to something, but the visible plastic clips really made it look cheap and tacky... this looks like the card itself is designed to slot together (or be glued into sub-assemeblies) which is much better. I can see myself getting in on their KS if they have a deadzone-friendly option that has 3" everything.

They have another pic up on their facebook page, one of the alt pose 2nd gens:



Love the overall lighting and atmosphere of that pic.

His pose reduces the overall terror just a bit, but looks pretty solid.

I love how the guy in the back is just going, "Nope, not even gonna look." Guy in the front is ready to fight valiantly while his buddy is just cowering back there. Talk about teamwork!

That terrain does look pretty neat though.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
I love how the guy in the back is just going, "Nope, not even gonna look." Guy in the front is ready to fight valiantly while his buddy is just cowering back there. Talk about teamwork!

It has a window.

While the card terrain's not quite my cup of tea, it does provide a nice effect - it makes it look like your tabletop is a level out of a Doom or Quake game, which is sort of awesome.

 scarletsquig wrote:
I'm going to keep an eye on battlesystems.. the fact that it's *not* a pdf solution, and is pre-printed, pre-cut, thick card is very appealing.

That's what their kickstarter will be funding. I've been following them for a while, but having to print and cut my own has been too daunting to take the plunge. In a semi-related topic, they dropped a hint in a FB post that they would be doing something for/with Mantic, which makes me think that Pandora may be getting an update.

 AlexHolker wrote:

It has a window.

Which he is OBVIOUSLY not looking through! I don't see any helmeted eyes peering through! He's just flailing his gun wildly from behind that shield, praying and spraying.

I'm going to have to keep an eye out on the cardstock stuff. I HATE having to print my own scenery- I just won't do it! We go through so much ink in our home as it is, I don't want to add to the costs!