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 judgedoug wrote:
Ah so those rifle Enforcers pictures are the Warpath ones that Ronnie talked about. So the KS and retail backers will get those until early next year when we get the hard plastic frame for free?

That's what is sounds like, though that does beg the question of what's happening with the retail boxes since there's no way to track them...

Obviously that matters not in the slightest to me as a KS backer for way more than I will ever be able to paint, but I can see where that's a very thorny question for the person buying the game at retail. Would the 2nd printing have the hard plastic sprues? Retail boxes get the old school version of the basic Enforcers and that's what they get? Some other option that we're not seeing (such as they actually have the basic troopers tooled in restic before the KS started and are using that one)?

Seems like a weird sort of place to be, really.

Do the pre-orders give any indication of when they will be shipped? I cannot see any dates given.

 Krinsath wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Ah so those rifle Enforcers pictures are the Warpath ones that Ronnie talked about. So the KS and retail backers will get those until early next year when we get the hard plastic frame for free?

That's what is sounds like, though that does beg the question of what's happening with the retail boxes since there's no way to track them...

Obviously that matters not in the slightest to me as a KS backer for way more than I will ever be able to paint, but I can see where that's a very thorny question for the person buying the game at retail. Would the 2nd printing have the hard plastic sprues? Retail boxes get the old school version of the basic Enforcers and that's what they get? Some other option that we're not seeing (such as they actually have the basic troopers tooled in restic before the KS started and are using that one)?

Seems like a weird sort of place to be, really.

I thought the purpose of the hard plastic enforcers was for Warpath and the Deadzone contents would be more "board game like" (remember the Scientist level of Deadzone as a board game) so perhaps they'll just stick with pvc restic enforcers for Deadzone period, and the KS backers get additional hard plastic sprues as the freebies. So I would assume Deadzone as a game box will have 100% restic at retail.


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Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Do the pre-orders give any indication of when they will be shipped? I cannot see any dates given.

"Yes, Deadzone is now available to pre-order from the Mantic shop! This is part of our pre-Christmas limited release of the game – everything will be released in full in 2014, but for now we’re going to be producing a boxed game, which will be released alongside a range of additional products."

So probably a hard date once they get closer to shipping. But before Christmas.

 DaveC wrote:
Link:

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/deadzone.html

That's the first time they've shown the counters. So a Battlezone is £25 versus $25 in the KS good saving then. EDIT ah the £25 includes an accessory sprue which the KS Battlezone didn't so it's £25 versus $30 (£19) still £6 is £6 saved.

Good to know, I held off on buying terrain during the KS since there weren't any bundle deals for it and I wasn't sure how retail pricing would compare.

The resin crates and counters look really nice... didn't see the plague counters during the KS though, will backers who pledged for acrylic counters get those too?

Also, I hate to point it out, but the faction starters were more expensive during the KS than at retail for UK backers... $35 during the KS (£21.93), £19.99 retail. The dollar was worth more back then too so the difference can't be attributed to currency differences. Equal prices for US backers, mind.

This is a great deal for anyone who didn't get in on the kickstarter: http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/deadzone/product/deadzone-pre-release-mega-deal.html

Basically the same as strike team minus a few KS exclusive minis and a few terrain sprues.

I was hoping they would be selling the mats seperately at retail. Seems not, though.

 squall018 wrote:
I was hoping they would be selling the mats seperately at retail. Seems not, though.

remember it's a prerelease; all the goodies will be available early next year. they might have only printed enough mats in the first round to do one apiece.


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 scarletsquig wrote:

Also, I hate to point it out, but the starter sets were more expense during the KS than at retail for UK backers... $35 during the KS (£21.93), £19.99 retail. The dollar was worth more back then too so the difference can't be attributed to currency differences. Equal prices for US backers, mind.

This is a great deal for anyone who didn't get in on the kickstarter: http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/pre-order/deadzone/product/deadzone-pre-release-mega-deal.html

Basically the same as strike team minus a few KS exclusive minis and a few terrain sprues.

I think the Deadzone KS ones come with more minis. Quick glance at the Plague and there's extra 3rd gen including an extra HMG guy.

The $249 mega preorder is equivalent to a $150 pledge plus $30 resin/acrylic bits but the $249 includes less figures and half as many special characters. So the KS sweet spot pledge was still a much much better deal.

^ Yeah, you're right, there's a couple of extra minis in each of the KS starters compared to retail.

I'm quite happy to wait on hard plastics and stuff for this, but if they are good, Mantic will get a whole pile of cash from me.

Looking at what was in the pre-release bundle made me excited for this game again.

Does anybody know what will be available in the second survey? Just stuff from wave two or a repeat of the first survey?

Okay, thanks. \/ \/ \/

 Souleater wrote:
Does anybody know what will be available in the second survey? Just stuff from wave two or a repeat of the first survey?

both KoW and Dreadball had lots of stuff from wave 1 still available in future surveys. in fact in my wave 3 Dreadball survey I ordered the acrylic pitch for like half of retail price because I had a chance to play on it and decided I wanted it. KoW final survey even had currently existing units at a discount (undead revenant knights at almost half off, too, iirc)

'Sprueless Plastic' - heh!

Since these are our first decent individual pics of the minis, I think I'll do a pic dump so people don't have to trawl through all the thumbnails individually:


Rebs:







Enforcers:







Plague:







Marauders:







Other stuff:

Thanks for the pic dump SS. Will have to look the link over when I get off my phone, kind of a pain on this smallish screen.

Yes, thanks for that SS.

I'm very excited about this game and the incoming minis.

Just found this guy who will be leading my Rebels!

^ Good point, I have a couple of that mini and it does look like it'd be a better fit for the Rebs than the Corp now that we know what they look like.

I've been meaning to sort out a middle finger conversion for the power fist, too.

The equipment crates look really spiffy painted up, glad I got some (at half price too!).

Also glad my battlezones were 25 and accessory sprues were 5 instead of $40 combo sets (though that price won't necessarily stop me from buying Deadzone scenery upgrade packs in the future).

I definitely don't feel ripped off for spending so much on the kickstarter ahead of time, current prices seem quite a bit over what I spent. I realize I could get some of this stuff 20% of on certain resellers, but even then I feel like I got a decent deal on what I ordered. Remember your faction starters may have cost $35 for most of the campaign but the survey (and second survey to come) let you pick any two for $50, etc.

They are ok, just nothing awesome. I'm still waiting to see the Mantic miniature that makes me think I can't wait to paint that.

The Mantic guys have been great to deal with, I have changed my pledge countless times and even had to back down to just the initial pledge with the news of a young un on the way.

Poor Steward probably was pulling his hair out when he saw my 8th pledge change. I do know that in my second survey I will definitely get the resin containers, acrylic pack, and collectors edition book.

Yeah, price wise I am not fussed over the retail vs KS slight differences, to the point that I am considering putting an order in for one of the £100 bundles.

Scarlet Squig, is it safe to assume those are the same painted resin masters we have already seen and not actual production minis?

And wow, some of the Marauder poses are really bad... But I knew that.

Yeah, those are resin masters, not production minis.

Thanks, I thought so. Their painter (who I know is on this thread somewhere) has done a phenomenal job.

Yeah, I wonder if we'll see the production minis before they reach us in the mail. I know I'll get called a bad guy for saying that but it's a legitimate worry considering what they've done before...

I believe that to be the work of more than one painter, look at the bases to get an indication of who did what. For example the same painter did the Marauders, Rebs, Wrath and Nastanza.

I would love to see that exact array of photos... with models directly out of the box without any prepwork. Basically a direct unboxing with every model with a close-up view.

I know I don't buy a GW model without seeing a 'sprue' unboxing or a unpainted assembled model of other people's products.

 agnosto wrote:
Yeah, I wonder if we'll see the production minis before they reach us in the mail. I know I'll get called a bad guy for saying that but it's a legitimate worry considering what they've done before...

Agreed on all counts!

Joyboozer wrote:
They are ok, just nothing awesome. I'm still waiting to see the Mantic miniature that makes me think I can't wait to paint that.

i have been saying the same thing for a couple of years now...
Mantic has yet to sell me on a single mini, but they are getting closer withthe Enforcers...

i was impressed with the free hard plastic Ghouls that they gave away a few years ago...
then came all this restic nonsense...
not good...

i'm waiting to see if the hard plastic Enforcers happen, and are as awesome as i hope they will be...

cheers
jah

 CptJake wrote:
Scarlet Squig, is it safe to assume those are the same painted resin masters we have already seen and not actual production minis?

And wow, some of the Marauder poses are really bad... But I knew that.

I wish more people liked the marauders. I know there's been a pretty big turn around and many more like them than originally, but I still feel like I'm in a minority when I say I really like them! I'll be ordering additional sets of them even.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
Scarlet Squig, is it safe to assume those are the same painted resin masters we have already seen and not actual production minis?

And wow, some of the Marauder poses are really bad... But I knew that.

I wish more people liked the marauders. I know there's been a pretty big turn around and many more like them than originally, but I still feel like I'm in a minority when I say I really like them! I'll be ordering additional sets of them even.

There's elements of them I like, just don't think they are great.