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I'll be looking to buy well over 100 of the hard plastic enforcers. After I've seen the sprues, not before.

Hopefully they'll come out with a £50 army set with the peacekeepers and regular enforcers, entirely hard plastic. That would be extremely nice and I'd be looking to pick up 3-4 of them.

I'm also hoping to see giant bundle boxes of the plastic terrain (great big £100 things) to go nuts with. Definitely want to make that 28mm scale starship at some point and battlezones are going to be the thing to make it with.

 scarletsquig wrote:


I'm also hoping to see giant bundle boxes of the plastic terrain (great big £100 things) to go nuts with. Definitely want to make that 28mm scale starship at some point and battlezones are going to be the thing to make it with.

This would probably be better: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-modular-terrain

 JoshInJapan wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:


I'm also hoping to see giant bundle boxes of the plastic terrain (great big £100 things) to go nuts with. Definitely want to make that 28mm scale starship at some point and battlezones are going to be the thing to make it with.

This would probably be better: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/battle-systemstm-sci-fi-modular-terrain

Not so much better as different I think Josh. Battle Systems terrain is awesome - I'm in for at least 2 strongholds. But it represents interior terrain. Deadzone represents exterior terrain, comes with things like landing pads and defence lines, and you can build it 10 levels high if you want. I have 14 Deadzone battlezones coming, and my plan is to run 2 battle systems strongholds covering 2x4 for interior stuff, and deadzone battlezones covering 4x4 for exterior stuff, on the same glorious 6x4 table.

Where in Aus are you yonan? Because that is a table I would love to see!!

Perth WA, I work to a very slow schedule but you'd be welcome to have a game with me in 4 years when it's finished! ; p

edit: Maybe 3 years, since Battle Systems doesn't need to be painted ; )

6 enforcers for DZ... warpath can have lots more. I have a feeling I'm gonna give up on my space Marines when my dz shipment gets here and if that's the case I Kay need a few more enforcers to replace them.

News for Deadzone scenery lovers:

Mantic has confirmed in the Mars Attacks comments section that you can pledge for ANY Deadzone battlezone you want, not just core worlds. Ruins, Landing Pad, etc, are all open season.

This effectively means, if you're waiting to pledge for more Deadzone battlezones on the 2nd survey anyway, you may want to consider doing it now and getting free Mars Attacks pledge rewards - like Plague suitable giant bugs or giant robots - thrown into the bargain!

Have never looked at Warpath, supposedly it's more problematic than Kings of War right? I hope Mantic can refine it too since I'm pretty keen on the setting now after getting into it with Dreadball and Deadzone fluff. There's a book coming out very soon too I hear which I'll definitely have to grab.

I'm going to look at making a set of homebrew rules for 40K to work with Deadzone, with a strong emphasis on balance. Whether I use it to replace 40k games, or to mix 40k armies into Deadzone setting just for fun I don't know yet, but I'm still keen on a lot of the 40k stuff so it has to be done ; p Deadzone rules seem perfect to represent Dawn of War (PC Game) Blood Ravens action on the tabletop, where you field at most 12ish marines against all sorts of grooblies. Also as someone else mentioned a while ago, it would work well for tabletop XCom which intrigues me ; )

I think 4 mat deadzone will be a very interesting skirmish alternative. 20-30 models on a side moving independently but in groups of 4-6 so kind of squad like. Maybe 1-2 light vehicles in a side. Definitely smaller scope than 40k but 2-3x the model count of infinity... sounds interesting to me

I'd just like to point out that, despite my concerns expressed in this thread, I have taken a leap of faith and pledged for the big ant-bug thing on the Mars Attacks KS. This is based on a render only.

I'm giving you a second chance, Mantic, don't let me down!

Hahah RiTides, did you see the review of the material they're using? It's not as sharp as the new restic formula which I think we can all agree looks from the pictures to be great, but it did look good enough.

I did not Yonan, could you link me to it? I don't mind dipping my toe in for the bugs anyway, but that would be very useful to know just for reference...

 RiTides wrote:
I did not Yonan, could you link me to it? I don't mind dipping my toe in for the bugs anyway, but that would be very useful to know just for reference...

Yep! Here's the review and this is a sample pic from itt hat's a bit big to inline. This is what I remember hearing was the same material used here, SS or someone else might be able to confirm for sure.

They look alright. To me MA looks more like a board game, you can play right out of the box, no need to paint or assemble your minis. DZ is more a tabletop wargame. Really cant wait to see what they do with a Warpath KS. The renders for MA look great, hope they keep to this method of sculpting in the future.

I caved in and have pre ordered the big set. Will make sure I have funds stached away for when the Warpath KS hits

the softer plastic used in MA allows greater flexibility in what will actually pull out of the mould safely

so you'd probably find they might not work in restic (and certainly wouldn't work in styrene)

that said they've certainly come on well with their digital work

Thanks for that, Yonan!

Also, folks who pledged for Deadzone terrain might want to check out the Games & Gears cityscape board as a cheap way to put a base on that city (it was just mentioned in the comments and I think it's a good idea!).

I think I'm more excited for the new material than I ever will be for restic again. A little bit of softness is much preferrable to my "Thanks, Obama" levels of restic rage.


Thanks, Restic!

Wait, what material is it? Not restic, you say? I'm not sure what "softer plastic" means...

It's the stuff in Yonan's post, used in Loka and the FFG Gears of War board game.

 RiTides wrote:
Also, folks who pledged for Deadzone terrain might want to check out the Games & Gears cityscape board as a cheap way to put a base on that city (it was just mentioned in the comments and I think it's a good idea!).

Another good looking terrain kickstarter, truly an awesome time to be a gamer. It does look good, but it seems to be better for 15mm rather than 28mm? The Battle Systems terrain also on KS seems to match the scale better I think, plus is interior focused compared to the Games and Gears and Deadzone terrain exterior focus.

 scarletsquig wrote:
It's the stuff in Yonan's post, used in Loka and the FFG Gears of War board game.

Swoit cheers, wasn't positive. I assume Mantic knows what they're doing and are choosing this over the new sexy restic formula for good reasons

 Yonan wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
It's the stuff in Yonan's post, used in Loka and the FFG Gears of War board game.

Swoit cheers, wasn't positive. I assume Mantic knows what they're doing and are choosing this over the new sexy restic formula for good reasons

I don't understand your first phrase. Do you mean this stuff is worse than normal boardgame plastic?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Yonan wrote:

Swoit cheers, wasn't positive. I assume Mantic knows what they're doing and are choosing this over the new sexy restic formula for good reasons

I don't understand your first phrase. Do you mean this stuff is worse than normal boardgame plastic?

"Swoit cheers"? Sorry, Australianism I guess. Swoit = sweet, so "Sweet thanks (implied: for clearing that up), I wasn't sure if I was correct." Was in hospital yesterday doped up on morphine so I wasn't writing terribly well, my bad ; p

I don't really know about normal boardgame plastic, but the stuff used here looks fine - just has less crisp hard lines that you seem to get with the new restic used with Dreadball wave 3 and Deadzone, but others have said this might allow for better soft detail.

I like the plastic for the Gears of War game.

They don't feel brittle, you can see the detail, and they seem to paint up nice (from what I've seen of pictures, never gotten around to them myself).

They've survived my kids manhandling them, as well as getting stepped on and knocked all over the place, so that's always a plus that they can survive that kind of torment.

Good to hear! I figured there was a good reason Mantic chose it. Having simpler rules and being more board-gamey, they probably figure it's going to get a lot of attention from kids (I plan to play with my niece) so it stands to reason if it's tougher.

Am i the only one that isn't a fan of the GoW material?

Probably not?

Overall, I like what I've seen so far, and feel a lot better about my massive Deadzone pledge.

 Alpharius wrote:
Probably not?
Overall, I like what I've seen so far, and feel a lot better about my massive Deadzone pledge.

You and me both, was a bit worried for a while there hehe. Worst case now I think is they don't get their hard plastic troops right at all and we get them refunded or in restic, which certainly isn't ideal but we don't get burnt as such.

Did you get back in on Mars Attacks? I recall you dropped your pledge before Mantic shoed their deadzone production minis.

I didn't get back in on MA - something had to get cut, what with all the other recently completed and/or ongoing KS...

 Yonan wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
I did not Yonan, could you link me to it? I don't mind dipping my toe in for the bugs anyway, but that would be very useful to know just for reference...

Yep! Here's the review and this is a sample pic from itt hat's a bit big to inline. This is what I remember hearing was the same material used here, SS or someone else might be able to confirm for sure.

OHO! So they're using FFG-style plastic then? I hope they have the quality control on, because warped bases are a real thing with FFG's stuff...



Also, does anyone have a link to a pic of the $350-exclusive model? I can't seem to find it.


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 Yonan wrote:
Good to hear! I figured there was a good reason Mantic chose it. Having simpler rules and being more board-gamey, they probably figure it's going to get a lot of attention from kids (I plan to play with my niece) so it stands to reason if it's tougher.

As well as that - if it's a board game, it needs to be playable out of the box, rather than having the BG/BGG crowd fiddling around with assembly and such before they can play.


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 Alpharius wrote:
I didn't get back in on MA - something had to get cut, what with all the other recently completed and/or ongoing KS...

So... you dropped your pledge?

Without even once threatening to do so - I just...did it.