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In the rule book it says walkers can always shoot at its ballistic skill. But the Defiler has an ordinance battle cannon. In the ordinance section says when an ordinance fires the rest of the weapons fire at ballistic skill one. So question is does the walker rule override the ordinance rule. Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks in advance.

Shooting rules override vehicle rules.

A Monster with an ordnance weapon would only be able to shoot its ordnance weapon, snap firing everything else.

The same applies for a defiler.

 scythewing wrote:
In the rule book it says walkers can always shoot at its ballistic skill.

No it doesn't.

But the Defiler has an ordinance battle cannon. In the ordinance section says when an ordinance fires the rest of the weapons fire at ballistic skill one. So question is does the walker rule override the ordinance rule. Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks in advance.

Taking the above into account, there is nothing in the walker rules that overrides the Ordnance penalty.

 grendel083 wrote:

 scythewing wrote:
In the rule book it says walkers can always shoot at its ballistic skill.

No it doesn't.

But the Defiler has an ordinance battle cannon. In the ordinance section says when an ordinance fires the rest of the weapons fire at ballistic skill one. So question is does the walker rule override the ordinance rule. Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks in advance.

Taking the above into account, there is nothing in the walker rules that overrides the Ordnance penalty.

I believe he meant

"Walkers can always fire all their weapons at full ballistic skill, regardless of movement range."

The rules do not suddenly change the rules for ordnance - While the Defiler may shoot its ordnance weapon and move, it may not shoot any secondary weapons at full BS.

Huh?

A defiler shoots its battlecannon at full BS. Everything is snapfired. Not sure where the confusion is...

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Huh?

A defiler shoots its battlecannon at full BS. Everything is snapfired. Not sure where the confusion is...

He has misremembered the movement and shooting rules for Walkers.

oh, ok.

my only issues with defilers has been the power fists thing. We can't seem to figure out if there is a reason they have power fists instead of DCCWs...

Because they want to have more types of weapons than just DCCW. Its kinda obvious. He ignores unwieldy so a powerfist has no difference to the traditional DCCW for a walker

Wait, read that incorrectly...

where does it say they ignore unwieldy?

Read the Unwieldy rule

Ah, nuts... How did we miss this? probably too much drunkhammer...