Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21208674

I smell a lawsuit.

I doubt it'll happen but death by misadventure would be an appropriate finding.

The PCC is already onto it.

 Mr. Burning wrote:
I doubt it'll happen but death by misadventure would be an appropriate finding.

The PCC is already onto it.

That's automatically put into effect when somebody dies in police custody though, isn't it?

Well that guy got his just desserts.

 Seaward wrote:
I smell a lawsuit.

Unlikely in the UK. Most likely by the look of it he had a pre existing condition and the people in the shop took reasonable action.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 RossDas wrote:

 Mr. Burning wrote:
I doubt it'll happen but death by misadventure would be an appropriate finding.

The PCC is already onto it.

That's automatically put into effect when somebody dies in police custody though, isn't it?

Yep.

Not sure I've ever seen a Ladbrokes in a "nice quiet area" as fairly shifty looking eyewitness David Marfleet claims it is.

 Seaward wrote:
I smell a lawsuit.

From beyond the grave?

 Howard A Treesong wrote:

 Seaward wrote:
I smell a lawsuit.

From beyond the grave?

Family members aren't allowed to sue in the UK?

"We recovered a firearm of sorts"

Is it a pistol or isn't it? It's not that hard to find out... some easy steps for the UK police:

Is the entire thing plastic?
Does it have a little orange tip?
Can the magazine take rounds... or little BBs? or water? Does it even have a magazine well?
Work the action, can it even move? If it can, does it look like there's space for an actual round? are any of the chamber's internal mechanisms plastic?

With these easy to follow steps, you may now ascertain whether any potential firearm in your possession is in fact a real weapon or not within minutes of recovering the potential weapon from the scene! For more information, please consult the senior detective of your local firearms section.

As long as the thing appears real, there's little you can do to prove it cannot be fired.
A decommissioned firearm can easily appear ready to fire, but the firing pin, or whatever, might not exist.

As for local firearms sections, they're few and far between.
It'll take some time to round up all the officers with clearance to arm.

In the UK, "armed" robberies carried out with realistic imitation guns are treated by the courts as real armed robberies and the sentence will be high if found guilty.

However, in this case the cost of a full trial was avoided.

Whats to sue over?
BG stopped while attempting to commit armed robbery.
GGs may have been in fear of death.
BG was restrained. No information that anything else happened to BG.
Sucks to be BG.

 Frazzled wrote:
Whats to sue over?

Well, clearly a criminally negligent manufacturer of guns or gun replicas forced this misguided young man into a life of crime.

Should sue the gas mask manufacturer. The book printers too. If there weren't books then he wouldn't have been tempted to rob the place. ATTRACTITVE NUISANCE! ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE!

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
"We recovered a firearm of sorts"

Is it a pistol or isn't it? It's not that hard to find out... some easy steps for the UK police:

I think they're just avoiding giving out details to the press while investigating.

 Frazzled wrote:
Should sue the gas mask manufacturer. The book printers too. If there weren't books then he wouldn't have been tempted to rob the place. ATTRACTITVE NUISANCE! ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE!

Yeah, a bookmakers isn't a place that makes books, it's a betting shop. So slightly more attractive and valuable a target than your nearest waterstones, unless you really want to read the final Harry Potter book.

Wait sorry, say again - what kind of place was this?

if its a bookie, why did they report it? Wouldn't the mob guys there just wacked him and dumped him? I'm confused now.

Betting shops are perfectly legal in the UK.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Betting shops are perfectly legal in the UK.

1. So this is a mini bookie joint?
2. They don't have security?
3. Ok I'll change my joke to: I guess he didn't understand that sometimes you have to roll the hard six.

He was just lucky an airport baggage porter and a passing granny weren't nearby; it would have gone a lot worse for him.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
He was just lucky an airport baggage porter and a passing granny weren't nearby; it would have gone a lot worse for him.

I think the concept of messing with some old fish wife granny is just terrifying. After all, the Argentinians were kicking butt until they ticked off Grannie Beth. Three hundred bodies later (covered up by MI6 as "repeated airstrikes") and the Argentinians were in full retreat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7oo2qIpTyY

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Betting shops are perfectly legal in the UK.

Why did that scene from the movie Snatch just pop into my head?