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2013/02/01 05:45:35
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
In 2011, Tennessee state Sen. Stacey Campfield (R) earned the ire of gay-rights supporters by authoring and championing a "don't say gay" bill, forbidding teachers to even mention homosexuality to kids from pre-kindergarten through eighth grade. The bill passed out of the relevant committees of both the state House and Senate, but expired at the end of the legislative session in 2012. Well, "it's back," says Katie McDonough at Salon. "And it's awful," even worse than the previous version. Why? This time, Campfield added new language in the bill that "would require teachers to tell parents when students are — or might be — gay." Here's the relevant section of the bill:
The general assembly recognizes that certain subjects are particularly sensitive and are, therefore, best explained and discussed within the home. Because of its complex societal, scientific, psychological, and historical implications, human sexuality is one such subject. Human sexuality is best understood by children with sufficient maturity to grasp its complexity and implications. At grade levels pre-K through eight (pre-K-8), any such classroom instruction, course materials or other informational resources that are inconsistent with natural human reproduction shall be classified as inappropriate for the intended student audience and, therefore, shall be prohibited....
LEA policies and procedures adopted pursuant to this section shall not prohibit... A school counselor, nurse, principal or assistant principal from counseling a student who is engaging in, or who may be at risk of engaging in, behavior injurious to the physical or mental health and well-being of the student or another person; provided, that wherever possible such counseling shall be done in consultation with the student's parents or legal guardians. Parents or legal guardians of students who receive such counseling shall be notified as soon as practicable that such counseling has occurred. [PDF]
What is Campfield thinking? Well first, unlike lawmakers in California, who banned the controversial gay "conversion" therapy for minors, says Salon's McDonough, Campfield is apparently a fan of the practice "('counseling' in the bill's nomenclature), in which psychologists and psychiatrists... try to change the recipient's sexual orientation." Many states require teachers to report "any signs of child being abused, depressed, or suicidal" to parents or higher authorities, says Ilana Glazer at The Daily Beast, and Campfield apparently believes that "being gay is so abnormal, it must be reported so that such behavior can be thwarted." Still:
This Tennessee bill, coupled with the recent Boy Scout debate, seems to be part of a disturbing trend. While equality battles up until now have been about LGBT rights for adults, the debate has now shifted to a point where children are becoming collateral damage. [Daily Beast]
Campfield mostly "seems determined that his name will forever more be synonymous with the term 'gay-bashing,'" says Jackson Baker at the Memphis Flyer. That, and making a name for himself, period. It's hard to escape the fact that this new "don't say gay" bill actually does let you "say 'gay' if you must, but say it out of the hearing of the Regular Kids and in a way that isolates the suspected or known outliers and makes them squirm. Call it Tough Love. Call it The Cure." Luckily, "we will hazard here the prediction that Campfield's newest philippic against the state of gaydom will ultimately meet the fate of his first effort" — death by inaction.
Let's hope so, says Annie-Rose Strasser at ThinkProgress. "Family rejection is a serious risk for LGBT youth," often leading to depression or suicide. And if this legislation does pass, plenty more gay kids will surely "face alienation, if not outright abandonment," and the state will be saddled with an epidemic of marginalized or homeless children.
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2013/02/01 06:12:16
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
The relevant bill wrote:At grade levels pre-K through eight (pre-K-8), any such classroom instruction, course materials or other informational resources that are inconsistent with natural human reproduction shall be classified as inappropriate for the intended student audience and, therefore, shall be prohibited....
So in other words, talk about human reproduction, but not human sexuality.
I would like to contend that this is merely based on a general squeamishness regarding sex (and the associated menagerie of concepts), but when you're willing to allow teach pre-K students about penises and vaginas that whole argument goes out the window.
Rainbow Dash wrote: the US likes to blame gay people when their country is going bad
another reason I will never go to that country
I just blame Canada.
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2013/02/01 07:02:47
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
How does one identify a potentially gay student? Will there be a field guide perhaps? Will the teacher have to write a letter to the parents? Maybe provide examples of corrective action?
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Schmuckatelli,
It is my duty to inform you, as Little Timmy's home room teacher in the sixth grade, that there is a possibility your son is queerer then a three dollar bill. The following behavior has been observed by various staff members.
-At lunch Little Timmy sits with his all male friends, and seems not to interact with girls
-Timmy's mode of dress occasionally includes bright colors
-Little Timmy has been noted to be an active participant in theater classes but has expressed no interest in running around hitting other males dressed in tight pants on the football team.
-Mr. Gleason the Janitor overheard Little Timmy using the word "Fabulous" in the hall the other day.
-He also seems to have an obsession with hand painted little plastic men, that he and his friends play with.
We the staff are very concerned about Little Timmy's behavior and would like to suggest the following steps:
1. Inspect Little Timmy's room for gay materials such as:
-Hot pants
-Feather boas
-Bright colors of any kind
-Glee DVDs
-Images of puppies, kittens, ponies, etc
-My Little Pony DVDs and other related materials
-Fashion magazines
-Anything else not productive to the growth and development of a healthy young boy.
Upon destroying any found contraband proceed to...
2. Pray the gay away with Little Timmy, with enough Jesus he'll revert to being a good boy again!'
If that doesn't work move to emergency measures with:
3. Beat the gay out of him with a leather belt or wooden switch no thicker then the man of the house's thumb.
Yours Respectfully in Christ,
Mrs. Henderson
Edgar Allen Poe (how many bloody schools does this one make?) Middle School
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I like how gays have to act a certain way, like your sexual preference determines your behavior. Every gay guy on earth has to be a total flamer or he obviously couldn't be gay right? I mean he acts normal!
I'm gonna go drink whiskey till I can't remember this stupid gak.
The US is uncomfortable with male gayness. I blame Florida really, just hanging out there like a dong. So long and flacid, making us wonder of its a grower or a show-er, and creating all kinds of sexual tension.
I need a shower...
2013/02/01 12:19:45
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
Rainbow Dash wrote: the US likes to blame gay people when their country is going bad
another reason I will never go to that country
Wow, that just fills me with sadness that you won't come here...not.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/02/01 13:46:51
Subject: Re:TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
KalashnikovMarine wrote: How does one identify a potentially gay student? Will there be a field guide perhaps? Will the teacher have to write a letter to the parents? Maybe provide examples of corrective action?
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Schmuckatelli,
It is my duty to inform you, as Little Timmy's home room teacher in the sixth grade, that there is a possibility your son is queerer then a three dollar bill. The following behavior has been observed by various staff members.
-At lunch Little Timmy sits with his all male friends, and seems not to interact with girls
-Timmy's mode of dress occasionally includes bright colors
-Little Timmy has been noted to be an active participant in theater classes but has expressed no interest in running around hitting other males dressed in tight pants on the football team.
-Mr. Gleason the Janitor overheard Little Timmy using the word "Fabulous" in the hall the other day.
-He also seems to have an obsession with hand painted little plastic men, that he and his friends play with.
We the staff are very concerned about Little Timmy's behavior and would like to suggest the following steps:
1. Inspect Little Timmy's room for gay materials such as:
-Hot pants
-Feather boas
-Bright colors of any kind
-Glee DVDs
-Images of puppies, kittens, ponies, etc
-My Little Pony DVDs and other related materials
-Fashion magazines
-Anything else not productive to the growth and development of a healthy young boy.
Upon destroying any found contraband proceed to...
2. Pray the gay away with Little Timmy, with enough Jesus he'll revert to being a good boy again!'
If that doesn't work move to emergency measures with:
3. Beat the gay out of him with a leather belt or wooden switch no thicker then the man of the house's thumb.
Yours Respectfully in Christ,
Mrs. Henderson
Edgar Allen Poe (how many bloody schools does this one make?) Middle School
------------------------------------------
I like how gays have to act a certain way, like your sexual preference determines your behavior. Every gay guy on earth has to be a total flamer or he obviously couldn't be gay right? I mean he acts normal!
I'm gonna go drink whiskey till I can't remember this stupid gak.
Sooo... /thread
The US is uncomfortable with male gayness. I blame Florida really, just hanging out there like a dong. So long and flacid, making us wonder of its a grower or a show-er, and creating all kinds of sexual tension.
d-usa wrote: The US is uncomfortable with male gayness. I blame Florida really, just hanging out there like a dong. So long and flacid, making us wonder of its a grower or a show-er, and creating all kinds of sexual tension.
I need a shower...
You just made laugh in the middle of an otherwise silent office... good job, I hope you are proud of yourself!
2013/02/01 15:04:34
Subject: Re:TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
...I need a link to that video of the guy who stood before his local government, reeled off all this anti gay silliness (god says their evil) to everyone's praise ...before saying, "oh, hmn... what's this? Sorry I was actually reading from an anti-black speech from the 60s. Wow, don't I look silly".
Yeah, give it a few decades and the guys who were being homophobic will be stuck alongside all the anti-civil rights movement folk. Give it a few hundred years and everyone'll be gay (...or at least that's what Peace and War states ^^).
Anyhow, free speech gone mad, yadda yadda yadda.
2013/02/01 15:07:43
Subject: Re:TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
Wyrmalla wrote: ...I need a link to that video of the guy who stood before his local government, reeled off all this anti gay silliness (god says their evil) to everyone's praise ...before saying, "oh, hmn... what's this? Sorry I was actually reading from an anti-black speech from the 60s. Wow, don't I look silly".
xxmatt85 wrote: Are these people just stuck in an infinite time loop in which they still think it's 1955, I mean seriously?
They wish it was still 1955 because in 1955 white middle class men had all the power and wealth, and since then they increasingly have been brought to share some of it with other groups of society.
That same thing is behind a lot of modern troubles, such as the resentment towards minorities and positive discrimination, complaints about political correctness, the drive to re-subjugate women by denying them sexual healthcare, and so on.
Oh I see, this is the make fun of redneck churchers thread. Never mind.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/02/01 18:02:09
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
Rainbow Dash wrote:the US likes to blame gay people when their country is going bad
another reason I will never go to that country
A few d-bags in Tennessee are really not representative of the USA in general.
Also: lolwut?
KalashnikovMarine wrote:How does one identify a potentially gay student? Will there be a field guide perhaps? Will the teacher have to write a letter to the parents? Maybe provide examples of corrective action?
Obviously, the most effective way to prevent your son from being gay is to have him constantly, every day, express his love and how much he loves a 30-year old Jewish man.
Also, this seems like it should be here:
Frazzled wrote:Oh I see, this is the make fun of redneck churchers thread. Never mind.
Aren't they all? This IS the Internet, after all.
2013/02/01 18:08:04
Subject: Re:TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
Kilkrazy wrote: That same thing is behind a lot of modern troubles, such as the resentment towards minorities and positive discrimination, complaints about political correctness, the drive to re-subjugate women by denying them sexual healthcare, and so on.
Don't forget the threat of terrorism, virulent flu, high gas prices, athlete's foot, and the inexplicable inability to find PBR in anything but cans in northern Virginia grocery stores.
2013/02/01 18:08:57
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
I've been looking for "alternative" schooling for my child, and I am so glad that I can finally take him to school and not have to deal with all that icky sex stuff. Birthin' children is between a man, a woman, and God. Frankly, I don't think kids should be hearing any of those words, like homosexuality, pre-martial sex, or anything else they teach in other schools. Ya know, knowledge and whats its.
Kilkrazy wrote: That same thing is behind a lot of modern troubles, such as the resentment towards minorities and positive discrimination, complaints about political correctness, the drive to re-subjugate women by denying them sexual healthcare, and so on.
Don't forget the threat of terrorism, virulent flu, high gas prices, athlete's foot, and the inexplicable inability to find PBR in anything but cans in northern Virginia grocery stores.
Wait PBR comes in bottles? O.o
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2013/02/01 18:14:11
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
In defense of Tennessee, its an awesome place. Rolling green, awesome food, mild seasons.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/02/01 18:26:09
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
Frazzled wrote: In defense of Tennessee, its an awesome place. Rolling green, awesome food, mild seasons.
And a significant lack of Canadians.
I didn't say Tennessee was perfect.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/02/01 19:01:50
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
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GW Rules Interpretation Syndrom. GWRIS. Causes people to second guess a rule in a book because that's what they would have had to do in a GW system.
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2013/02/01 19:24:21
Subject: TN legislator might force straight camp on school kids
Kilkrazy wrote: That same thing is behind a lot of modern troubles, such as the resentment towards minorities and positive discrimination, complaints about political correctness, the drive to re-subjugate women by denying them sexual healthcare, and so on.
Don't forget the threat of terrorism, virulent flu, high gas prices, athlete's foot, and the inexplicable inability to find PBR in anything but cans in northern Virginia grocery stores.
Wait PBR comes in bottles? O.o
The real news is that PBR can be sold in the same places as food
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
Kilkrazy wrote: That same thing is behind a lot of modern troubles, such as the resentment towards minorities and positive discrimination, complaints about political correctness, the drive to re-subjugate women by denying them sexual healthcare, and so on.
Don't forget the threat of terrorism, virulent flu, high gas prices, athlete's foot, and the inexplicable inability to find PBR in anything but cans in northern Virginia grocery stores.
That's nothing to do with it.
By conflating nonsense with a serious point it makes it look as if you are attempting to defend reactionary bigotry by low mockery.
I am sure that is a position you would not genuinely wish to espouse.
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