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Probably out there already but could not find it.

1. Can Sammael fire both of his weapons per turn?

2. The rad grenade, effect unit or models hit only. The rule onn thisn one seems like just poorly worded.
   
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1) Does he have permission to? Reard the shooting rules, note how many weapons a model can normally fire, and see if he has anything that allows him to alter that.
2) States unit, so unit. It isnt poorly wounded as it says a "unit hit by...>" from memory
   
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I thought the rad grenade rule was pretty clear. Every model in a unit hit by a rad grenade takes the toughness hit.

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Yep so every model takes -1 toughness, sadly sammy doesnt have permission to fire both weapons, meaning the storm bolter is usually useless except for some instances where blast may scatter and be a issue or for overwatch.

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MarkyMark wrote:
Yep so every model takes -1 toughness, sadly sammy doesnt have permission to fire both weapons, meaning the storm bolter is usually useless except for some instances where blast may scatter and be a issue or for overwatch.


Do bikes/jetbikes not give relentless?

 Blacksails wrote:

Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
 
   
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PredaKhaine wrote:
MarkyMark wrote:
Yep so every model takes -1 toughness, sadly sammy doesnt have permission to fire both weapons, meaning the storm bolter is usually useless except for some instances where blast may scatter and be a issue or for overwatch.


Do bikes/jetbikes not give relentless?


They do. However you still cannot fire blast weapons for Overwatch.

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Cheers

So to answer the op's question, he can fire anything he likes in his shooting phase, both the storm bolter and his plasma cannon.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/02/01 15:06:19


 Blacksails wrote:

Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
 
   
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PredaKhaine wrote:
Cheers

So to answer the op's question, he can fire anything he likes in his shooting phase, both the storm bolter and his plasma cannon.

No, he cannot do. HOw many weapons can ONE model fire? ONE. He can only fire more if he has an exception t the normal rules

Relentless does not alter how many weapons you can fire.
   
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I've had that done to me before. Is that rule from 5th or did I get mugged?

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/02/01 15:45:41


 Blacksails wrote:

Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
 
   
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No, not at all. All the way back to 3rd.

Attack bikes have an allowance to shoot both weapons, monstrous creatures etc also
   
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I've no idea how long I've had that wrong. And been shot by it - bikes in general.

Cheers Nos

 Blacksails wrote:

Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
 
   
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I remember theres is something like a bike can fire as many weapons as models that are riding it, meaning the loyalist bikes can fire 2, while the rest of us are stuck usually with 1.

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Only attack bikes are allowed to fire 2 weapons because they have 2 riders. All other bikes are 1 weapon only. Either a mounted weapon or one carried by the rider.

Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!

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