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I'm loving this stuff. Aggressive launch with 5 plastic unit boxes and all the jacks but one being plastic as well.

Talk about the uglist model award....

 Spyder68 wrote:
Talk about the uglist model award....

Compared to the rest of the ranges, they look pretty good.

 Spyder68 wrote:
Talk about the uglist model award....

I personally think they look lovely. Can't wait. If anyone want's me I'll be in my bunk.

I think I'll pass...

The angel is cool, but her derpy looking friend, and what I could arguably consider some abandoned Smith & Wesson Prototype just don't do it for me... I mean he has bullets for hands...

Hmm, not sure I can judge based on the screencaps, but at least PP is trying something different, and it looks pretty interesting. I'm still trying to shrink my PP collection down to something manageable, so I doubt I'll buy in, but it's pretty cool stuff.

I feel like it doesnt fit the rest of their range at all... also apparrently they have no idea what art deco means lol

I understand the idea behind the gun-jack... without any knowledge of their fluff, they are still machines and machines don't need some of the things that we as humans need, but I'd like to see some "living" qualities to them... even if it's eye slits, the second picture at the bottom of the previous page looks dumb cause I can't see the whole model, but he has a fething smile... idk... I feel like this faction is really disjointed atm...

I'll see if I can't watch the youtube video later...

Man I seem really upset about this... I blame the hour long call I had with Lexmark tech support.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
I feel like it doesnt fit the rest of their range at all... also apparrently they have no idea what art deco means lol

I'm inclined to agree...

Really like them, a lot.

A clockwork army of tick-tock men, sign me up.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I feel like it doesnt fit the rest of their range at all

Its the Retribution all over again!

Do we have any more background info on Cyriss?

How did they get to be a faction without notice?

This looks like the faction that will bring me back to Warmachine. Having dabbled with it before and then getting sick of the infamous "Khador gap", I got rid of all my PP models. I always wanted to field an army of big stompy robots but disliked being limited to 1 caster per faction, or having to include humans with silly shoulder pads.

Now I can field all the robots I want with spindly piano-esque legs and I'll love it. I wonder what Mercs will be able to work with them.

I do however now expect some sort of Orgoth or Xu Hordes faction now to fully suck me back in.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I feel like it doesnt fit the rest of their range at all... also apparrently they have no idea what art deco means lol

Apparently someone here doesn't know what "art deco" means.

They are very art deco looking, a quick Google search of the term will yield a number of pictures that have the same or similar style elements as the Cyriss models.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I feel like it doesnt fit the rest of their range at all... also apparrently they have no idea what art deco means lol

Well I'd argue that it is vaguely art deco inspired - like Art Deco developed in a steam/diesel punk world. Some more screencaps for the work-blocked.

No spider-legged priests with mechano-flails yet? Iz sad.

ANy idea on Time frame?

 Laughing Man wrote:
No spider-legged priests with mechano-flails yet? Iz sad.

Yet.

There's 5 Warcasters in the book.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
ANy idea on Time frame?

Prerelease at Lock and Load then on general release at the end of June from what I hear.

Was kind of hoping for a solo, honestly. And now I need to save vast quantities of money for Lock and Load...

Okay, I'm beginning to retract my previous statements... The second picture from the last page looks significantly less derpy when I see the whole model (Artwork) and the pic of the model, and the infantry look nice, as do some of those jacks (the gun one still looks dumb).

My words taste good, but I ain't eating all of them

prplehippo wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I feel like it doesnt fit the rest of their range at all... also apparrently they have no idea what art deco means lol

Apparently someone here doesn't know what "art deco" means.

They are very art deco looking, a quick Google search of the term will yield a number of pictures that have the same or similar style elements as the Cyriss models.

Having grown up around art deco (my parents used to own a deco store), I didn't even subconsciously react "deco" when I saw these. Looking at them, I can see some influences, but if anyone's saying these things are definitively deco, they're, well, umm, wrong.

They have some connection to deco in the way that they look like they're influenced by stuff that's influenced by deco, but you can say the same thing about most post-deco stuff: any influential aesthetic will, by definition, influence subsequent aesthetics.

 Laughing Man wrote:
Was kind of hoping for a solo, honestly. And now I need to save vast quantities of money for Lock and Load...

We may have to talk about getting a forces book and a Battlebox.

I'm so pumped for these. This is twice this week my neighbours have heard me freaking out in excitement at my computer monitor (the first being Brock Lesnar coming back (again) on RAW). I feel I might be starting to get concerned looks.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

prplehippo wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I feel like it doesnt fit the rest of their range at all... also apparrently they have no idea what art deco means lol

Apparently someone here doesn't know what "art deco" means.

They are very art deco looking, a quick Google search of the term will yield a number of pictures that have the same or similar style elements as the Cyriss models.

Having grown up around art deco (my parents used to own a deco store), I didn't even subconsciously react "deco" when I saw these. Looking at them, I can see some influences, but if anyone's saying these things are definitively deco, they're, well, umm, wrong.

They have some connection to deco in the way that they look like they're influenced by stuff that's influenced by deco, but you can say the same thing about most post-deco stuff: any influential aesthetic will, by definition, influence subsequent aesthetics.

Wow. I guess that makes you an expert on the subject then.

Try studying the style, you'll see TONS in common with both art deco and art nouveau in these models.

As someone who has tried, and failied, to like WarmaHordes over the years (Right from the start), I really like those models. I may just pick up some just to paint. They're really nice.

Might also work well as Warforged for a D&D campaign, too.

The influence of Matt Wilson's art is particularly strong in the angels and more humanoid figures (see his work on Akroma for MtG below). As someone that owns a piece of signed artwork from Wilson, that is a definite plus.

to clarify my deco influence vs. indirect deco influence, some examples:

Direct influence:


Indirect influence:


also, prplehippo, thanks for the snide comment. Never said I hadn't studied Deco, was just referring to the fact the fact that it didn't intuitively read as deco, along with everything else. And art deco ≠ art nouveau, so I'm not sure why you brought that up, nor do I particularly see an art nouveau feel, other than some of the embellishments.


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as my lovely counterpart put it,

I see what they're talking about...deco and those robots live in the same neighborhood... but their dog poops on Deco's lawn and Deco's always leaving its trashcans out on the curb

@spiralingcadaver

You quantified your statement by using your parents store as a basis for your "expertise" in the assertion that they are not "art deco".

Those examples are just your OPINION as to a direct or indirect influence, any of them can stand in for being Art Deco influenced.

Art deco is also characterized by being symmetrical in design with layers all following the same curve or shape, which those models certainly are symmetrical.

I also never said art deco = art nouveau, only that they have similar traits in common, which they do, although art nouveau is characterized more by asymmetry, swirling lines and bright colors.

At any rate, Cyriss is most definitely influenced by the Art Deco movement.

It's pretty easy to take a building from an art deco painting - stick it under water or put Batman on top of it and recognize it. I mean - of course it looks so much more *obviously* art deco.

The influence shows up more in the details, the structure of the armor plating and such - but doesn't come across as well in the screencaps.

Look at examples of the style and then try and imagine how that would have developed in a fantasy steam-punk world in a robot instead of in a skyscraper. You can't just say - 'well these are bad & watered down initiations of Art-Deco' Because they're not trying to be a perfect art deco - but instead imagine how that would have looked had it evolved in another world in another medium.

I think they look great personally - and Didn't want to start another Warmachine force, but may be sorely tempted to do an angel golem army if they look as good as the rest.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
to clarify my deco influence vs. indirect deco influence, some examples:...
also, prplehippo, thanks for the snide comment. Never said I hadn't studied Deco, and art deco ≠ art nouveau, so I'm not sure why you brought that up, nor do I particularly see an art nouveau feel, other than some of the embellishments.


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as my lovely counterpart put it,

I see what they're talking about...deco and those robots live in the same neighborhood... but their dog poops on Deco's lawn and Deco's always leaving its trashcans out on the curb

Mmmm, I'm going to give this one to Hippo. Convergence seems to have elements (note, elements) heavily inspired by things like Fritz Lang's masterful Metropolis (especially the groundbreaking Maria/Hel), as well as architectural elements common to the turn-of-last century deco buildings.

Seriously now, the line you can draw from Metropolis to Iron Mother Directrix is scarcely Lombard Street. They seem directly part of the same aesthetic (or, more appropriately, an homage to the earlier pioneers).

@ prplehippo, Well, you seem to have repeatedly overlooked my statement of direct vs. indirect, but w/e.

Also, I personally hate absolute and specific statements categorizing aesthetics, but, since you brought up your distinct classifications-- I have no idea why you bothered to emphasize symmetry as deco, while none of the models are symmetrical, and many are notably less symmetrical than analogous other PP minis...

@ cryptek, never made a value judgement, just said that the deco influence is... distant, in my opinion

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
@ prplehippo, Well, you seem to have repeatedly overlooked my statement of direct vs. indirect, but w/e.

Also, I personally hate absolute and specific statements categorizing aesthetics, but, since you brought up your distinct classifications-- I have no idea why you bothered to emphasize symmetry as deco, while none of the models are symmetrical, and many are notably less symmetrical than analogous other PP minis...

I didn't overlook your statement, I merely pointed out that those are just your OPINION of direct vs indirect examples.

I emphasized symmetry in Art Deco because that's one of the defining characteristics of Art Deco, just as asymmetry is one of Art Nouveau..

You must be looking at different pics because I see a slew of symmetry in them. For instance:

http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DSC07554-e1359743707611.jpg

http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DSC07559-e1359743633242.jpg

http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DSC07558-e1359743648877.jpg

http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DSC07579-e1359743359990.jpg

Those all look pretty symmetrical to me, even the one with 3 legs (since they are all the same leg). Even the last one with the asymmetrical circles on top of the symmetrical body design.