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As the title says. My group is looking to do a story campaign and my Blood Angels have been chosen as the Lead Imperial Army. We want to know if their are any chapters the Blood Angels wouldn't ally with out of rivalry or spite?

Black Templars

okay we've got Smurfs, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves, Salamanders, and Mentors would any of these be hesitant?

Not that I can think of.

awesome thank you much!

I say Black Templars too...If they saw psykers and mutants all in the same group, they wouldn't hesitate to chop them up....

The Imperial Fists have no quarrel with the Blood Angels that I am aware of.

I guess any chapter that basically hates psykers and mutants.

Do they get along with Space Wolves or am I confusing them with another chapter?

The Wolves and Dark Angels have a feud that goes back to the Heresy, but that's about it.

Oh, and everyone hates Grey Knights.

The Black Templar will still fight with the Blood Angels, (example Armageddon)

This is probably because of the respect to the Blood Angels for having defended Terra during the HH along with the BT founders, the Imperial Fist

According to the BA codex, the Black Templars won't fight with them, or at least near them. I'd imagine with the Marines Malevolent adverse (to say the least) reaction to the Salamanders, that they would also have reservations about fighting with them.

 Doctor Khorne wrote:
According to the BA codex, the Black Templars won't fight with them, or at least near them. I'd imagine with the Marines Malevolent adverse (to say the least) reaction to the Salamanders, that they would also have reservations about fighting with them.

It says in the codex they wont fight with the Blood Angels? Or if the Blood Angels have Librarians on the field because that is 2 different things

I'm not sure what page it is, but there's reference to a campaign where the Templars only fought on the other side of the same planet with the Blood Angels

Black Templars will not ally with ANY army that has a psyker in it's roster, unless it is the Grey Knights.
Page 23 of the codex, Abhor The Witch,

Such is the sacred revulsion in which the Black Templars hold witches and warlocks that they will NEVER fight alongside such abominations. No model with psychic powers may be fielded as an ally to the Black templars and they will NOT fight as allies to any army that includes any models with psychic powers, with the exception of the Grey Knights Space Marines.

They are pretty snobby lol

It isn't cannon, but I could see them having a bit of animosity with Space Wolves for the sake of your campaign. Blood Angels are refined and pretty etc... And space wolves aren't. BA might not be quite as uptight as DA, but I still can't see them looking kindly on drunken parties etc... There is also the age old Vampire versus Werewolf dynamic to play on. That's if you want there to be.

If you are hoping for there not to be, then I guess you're in luck...

Space wolves. The SWs percieve the BAs as acursed. Pot calling the kettle black I know, but yes. Maybe its part of the whole vampire VS werewolves cliche (team Edward!). What I remember was that the BAs made the SWs nervous. Part of the dogs can sense witchcraft superstition. I think it would take THEE most superstitous wolf lord to flat out refuse to work with them. You might want to keep them from playing doubles together or downgrade them to allies of convenience.

Ch40s wrote:
Black Templars will not ally with ANY army that has a psyker in it's roster, unless it is the Grey Knights.
Page 23 of the codex, Abhor The Witch,

Such is the sacred revulsion in which the Black Templars hold witches and warlocks that they will NEVER fight alongside such abominations. No model with psychic powers may be fielded as an ally to the Black templars and they will NOT fight as allies to any army that includes any models with psychic powers, with the exception of the Grey Knights Space Marines.

They are pretty snobby lol

I really like this piece of fluff but what about navigators?

They will likely go through some purification-rituals. Same with the Astropaths. I would assume the Black Templars to be at other sections of the ship than the psykers since it's a relatively poor idea to have them crossing path.

As for the original question. The more ruthless chapters would have problems cooperating with the BA, the Imperial Fists, the Salamanders, the Ultramarines, the Space Wolves and the Raven Guard. Nevermind the many later chapters who value human life.

Such is the sacred revulsion in which the Black Templars hold witches and warlocks that they will NEVER fight alongside such abominations. No model with psychic powers may be fielded as an ally to the Black templars and they will NOT fight as allies to any army that includes any models with psychic powers, with the exception of the Grey Knights Space Marines.

Why am I not surprised buy the last sentence?

 AegisGrimm wrote:

Such is the sacred revulsion in which the Black Templars hold witches and warlocks that they will NEVER fight alongside such abominations. No model with psychic powers may be fielded as an ally to the Black templars and they will NOT fight as allies to any army that includes any models with psychic powers, with the exception of the Grey Knights Space Marines.

Why am I not surprised buy the last sentence?

Don't worry, that has existed for a long time. My guess is that the Black Templars are somehow aware of the history of the GK and know that their origin is essentially pure. Gives credit to the theory that they are made with Emperor splooge.

Red Scorpions maybe? They hate mutants with a passion and refuse to serve with Ogryn, Squats and Ratlings.

Ch40s wrote:
Black Templars will not ally with ANY army that has a psyker in it's roster, unless it is the Grey Knights.
Page 23 of the codex, Abhor The Witch,

Such is the sacred revulsion in which the Black Templars hold witches and warlocks that they will NEVER fight alongside such abominations. No model with psychic powers may be fielded as an ally to the Black templars and they will NOT fight as allies to any army that includes any models with psychic powers, with the exception of the Grey Knights Space Marines.

They are pretty snobby lol

Key word is "no model with psychic powers may be FIELDED as an ally"

What this means is if a force of Blood Angels shows up without a librarian, the Black Templars would have no problem fighting along side them.

Also Black Templar have fought with Blood Angels before. They will not join them on the same battlefield and they probably wont take orders from the Blood Angels but they have no problem fighting along side Blood Angels if the Librarian is say in space.

I'm pretty sure Dante was in overall command during one of the wars for Armageddon, I can't remember which off the top of my head but it wasn't v Angron. I'm pretty sure the BT were present so would at least have needed some basic tactical communication with the Blood Angels.

My understand is Templars won't take to the field unless completely recuired to. Armeggendon was one of those. They fought together in space because they wern't "near" each other and the reason you see the dislike between them an salamanders is because the templars seek to push forward and kill the enemies of the Empire while the Salamanders stood back and defended. Like wise..any Chapter that fields a physker or mutant is subject to death in a Templars eyes.

Templars
Soul Drinkers

Ugly Green Trog wrote:
I'm pretty sure Dante was in overall command during one of the wars for Armageddon, I can't remember which off the top of my head but it wasn't v Angron. I'm pretty sure the BT were present so would at least have needed some basic tactical communication with the Blood Angels.

Dante was in command during the 2nd Armageddon War, there were no Black Templars there - only Blood Angels, Ultramarines and Salamanders. During the 3rd Armageddon War there was only a company of Blood Angels present and they fought alongaside the Storm Giants, Marines Malevolent and Salamanders at Tempestora Hive - I'm not sure if there were any Black Templar ground forces on the same continent. I seem to recall Helbrecht was in charge of all Astartes fleet assets during the 3rd War however - so the Black Templars can't be that difficult to get on with.

 Shlazaor wrote:

Ch40s wrote:
Black Templars will not ally with ANY army that has a psyker in it's roster, unless it is the Grey Knights.
Page 23 of the codex, Abhor The Witch,

Such is the sacred revulsion in which the Black Templars hold witches and warlocks that they will NEVER fight alongside such abominations. No model with psychic powers may be fielded as an ally to the Black templars and they will NOT fight as allies to any army that includes any models with psychic powers, with the exception of the Grey Knights Space Marines.

They are pretty snobby lol

I really like this piece of fluff but what about navigators?

Its says in the BT codex thex make an exception for Navigators, but they are shunned and under heavy guard

 RedAngel wrote:
Space wolves. The SWs percieve the BAs as acursed. Pot calling the kettle black I know, but yes. Maybe its part of the whole vampire VS werewolves cliche (team Edward!). What I remember was that the BAs made the SWs nervous. Part of the dogs can sense witchcraft superstition. I think it would take THEE most superstitous wolf lord to flat out refuse to work with them. You might want to keep them from playing doubles together or downgrade them to allies of convenience.

Where did you get that from? I've never heard of that before. In fact, I recall Dante acknowledging (sp?) overall command of one major engagement (the Eye of Terror campaign?) to Logan Grimnar, so even if they aren't facebook friends, there's at least respect for one another's capabilities there.
Plus, both Chapters tend to favor close assaults and hand-to-hand combat, which are kind of a messy business, so BA aren't exactly the pristine shining knight type, either.

Having said that, BA do have a reputation (in rumors, no official animosity is recorded) for sometimes giving into excesses, which tends to make some IG regiments, or at least the troopers tend to be nervous around them.

Bran Dawri wrote:
In fact, I recall Dante acknowledging (sp?) overall command of one major engagement (the Eye of Terror campaign?) to Logan Grimnar, so even if they aren't facebook friends, there's at least respect for one another's capabilities there. Plus, both Chapters tend to favor close assaults and hand-to-hand combat, which are kind of a messy business, so BA aren't exactly the pristine shining knight type, either.

The two are pretty different at first glance - wolves are boisterous hard-drinking loudmouths, angels try to remain in control and act worthy of their Primarch. But once you get past that both Chapters see themself as protectors of mankind and both have fought at Armageddon with great honor. Marines of both Chapters wish to do great deeds on the field of battle, wolves to make a worthy saga to tell their brothers and the angels to measure themself against those battle-brothers that went before them. I suspect their interaction would turn into a sort of friendly competition to do great deeds, especially as both usually have pretty level-headed commanders when it comes down to it.

And ofc, Commander Dante was given command of the Space Marine presence at the second battle for Armageddon - by Marneus Calgar (Ultramarines) and Tu'shan (Salamanders). Not exactly nameless figures ceding him command. Dante and Tu'shan even ended up fighting Ghazgkhulls bodyguard side-by-side in the final battle, something that should impress the glory-seeking Space Wolves quite a lot.

In short, I don't see why they shouldn't get along.

^ SW don't give a crap where Dante was selected as a captain, and especially who selected him...LOL

Ooo how I would love to see Black Templars losing their temper and vamps doing their mojo and clashing....