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The last "daily sneak peek pic" is 4 days old, right?

Technically, the Legionnaire print was shown on Sunday, but either way someone's behind schedule.

 Kroothawk wrote:
The last "daily sneak peek pic" is 4 days old, right?

unfortunately you are correct kroothawk, I keep checking back to see what new tidbits are revealed but there hasn't been anything for a few days. 15th is right around the corner though

Prodos wrote:
Prodos Games are very please to announce the addition of Mr. Andy Hoare to the MC Warzone resurrection writing team. Andy is a massive Mutant Chronicles fan and has been battling in the Solar System since the early 90s.
Andy Hoare is a veteran of the tabletop wargaming industry having worked for Games Workshop, Wyrd, Architects of War, Mantic and others. He works as a freelance designer and author and lives in the Midlands in the UK, the spiritual home of the tabletop wargaming scene.

Great news, I always like Andy's writing style and rulebooks!!!
Welcome Andy!!! I still remember very nicely playtesting for you and Graham the Witchhunter Codex!

 Kroothawk wrote:
The last "daily sneak peek pic" is 4 days old, right?

The last one was on 10th

Weekends we are closed

But seriously, new one goes up today!



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 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
The last "daily sneak peek pic" is 4 days old, right?

The last one was on 10th

Weekends we are closed

But seriously, new one goes up today!



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big ugly something?

As usual, I'm late to the party, but I'm very excited to see where this goes. I have some fond memories of painting mutant chronicles "Seige of the Citadel" miniatures (a 28mm MC boardgame released in the USA by pressman) and I still have my 2nd edition rulebooks. There are also a number of Warzone minis still doing duty in my various sci-fi armies.

I'm very pleased that they seem to be doing new sculpts and art that are in line with the original warzone art which was quite evocative and well done.

Oddly, my friend is offering up a Bauhuas army for sale, maybe I'll take him up on it...

Is this a product release or a kickstarter? Why is this still a mystery?

Something wicked this way comes by the look of that sneak peek

 Byte wrote:
Is this a product release or a kickstarter? Why is this still a mystery?

Because it isn't the 15th yet? Patience people. Only a few more days.

 Byte wrote:
Is this a product release or a kickstarter? Why is this still a mystery?

Still a mystery. We'll find out in about 56 hours from the type I posted this.

http://www.warzonegame.com

 Byte wrote:
Is this a product release or a kickstarter? Why is this still a mystery?

I don't think there is a mystery, Protos has never given any indication that they would do a kickstarter, in fact in their posts they seam against it. Other people have been asking for one. I think it's probably a smart idea. Kickstarters have their ups and downs so I could see why they may want to avoid it, on the other hand I think it would also be totally worth it.

I can see people not wanting to wait months for product. But it doesn't really have to be that way. Mantic got people their in stock armies to customers as soon as the kickstarter was over. I suppose if you have in stock items you could send them out before the kickstarter is even over as long as it has reached it's funding goal, but I don't really know.

Seams a great way to build the hype machine and get a reading on public reception to a product. There are however sooooooo many kickstarters right now.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Well, now I kinda hope the preview head makes it to release, because it will allow me to do this

That looks pretty darn dandy! I wish prodos stole it!

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Something wicked this way comes by the look of that sneak peek

I think this turn of phrase has been used twice now in the last 6 months. We need to come up with something new.

 Ronin_eX wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Is this a product release or a kickstarter? Why is this still a mystery?

Because it isn't the 15th yet? Patience people. Only a few more days.

No, because they haven't indicated either way. I've asked a few times in this thread already... The lack of concise answer is getting annoying.

I'm hoping for a product release.

 god.ra wrote:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
The last "daily sneak peek pic" is 4 days old, right?

The last one was on 10th

Weekends we are closed

But seriously, new one goes up today!



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big ugly something?

Somehow it makes me think of warmachine, khador mech nuclear powered?

Image is tagged as Cyber234. So it's either Cybertronic or they are being smart asses to people that check source images

Does the symbol/pattern thing on those two rear turbine things mean anything to anyone steeped in Warzone imagery and lore?

Check the tags on the other images and see what sort of pattern there is. Internet Detectives, Ho!

We are not talking about GW. I don't think Prodos will be playing paranoia games they are posting sneak peeks to beging with.

M.

 plastictrees wrote:
Image is tagged as Cyber234. So it's either Cybertronic or they are being smart asses to people that check source images

Does the symbol/pattern thing on those two rear turbine things mean anything to anyone steeped in Warzone imagery and lore?

I don't recognize the symbol, it could be one of the dark legion symbols as they did each have their own and it's been too long for me to remember. However I think it must be Cybertronic as the dark legion stuff never looks as clean as that, I have no idea what it could be though as it doesn't look like anything I've ever seen in WZ.

They did say they were making some new characters

 Andrew1975 wrote:

 Byte wrote:
Is this a product release or a kickstarter? Why is this still a mystery?

I don't think there is a mystery, Protos has never given any indication that they would do a kickstarter, in fact in their posts they seam against it. Other people have been asking for one. I think it's probably a smart idea. Kickstarters have their ups and downs so I could see why they may want to avoid it, on the other hand I think it would also be totally worth it.

I can see people not wanting to wait months for product. But it doesn't really have to be that way. Mantic got people their in stock armies to customers as soon as the kickstarter was over. I suppose if you have in stock items you could send them out before the kickstarter is even over as long as it has reached it's funding goal, but I don't really know.

Seams a great way to build the hype machine and get a reading on public reception to a product. There are however sooooooo many kickstarters right now.

I think that it is a lot easier to start up on your own terms, provided you have the money available and you strongly believe in your product. If you use a kickstarter, you have to allocate resources to fulfill all the kickstarter obligations. And to have a good kickstarter you have to give people some good value for their $$$, eating into your margins. Once you are established you can use kickstarters to finance add ons and to keep your cashflow going, which can be hassle for beginning companies.

In the end I wouldn't trust anyone without a decent track record with my money, even if they promise a lot.

Varrak wrote:
And to have a good kickstarter you have to give people some good value for their $$$, eating into your margins.

A lot less than selling via retail. As long as the company has priced it's minis appropriately KS isn't a bad deal.

robertsjf wrote:

Varrak wrote:
And to have a good kickstarter you have to give people some good value for their $$$, eating into your margins.

A lot less than selling via retail. As long as the company has priced it's minis appropriately KS isn't a bad deal.

isn't bypassing retail a bit like biting the hand that feeds, especially for a company that wants to launch a game instead of just selling some minis? Around here I can't really see a mini game take off unless the local gamestores gets behind it (aka can sell most of the miniatures people play with).

I can see the point of a KS but the amount of kickstarters in the industry is startling. And I read a lot of complaints about KS's struggling to cope with meeting deadlines. And a less then perfect kickstarter doesn't look like a great way to kick of an ambitious project like this.

Varrak wrote:

robertsjf wrote:

Varrak wrote:
And to have a good kickstarter you have to give people some good value for their $$$, eating into your margins.

A lot less than selling via retail. As long as the company has priced it's minis appropriately KS isn't a bad deal.

isn't bypassing retail a bit like biting the hand that feeds, especially for a company that wants to launch a game instead of just selling some minis? Around here I can't really see a mini game take off unless the local gamestores gets behind it (aka can sell most of the miniatures people play with).

I can see the point of a KS but the amount of kickstarters in the industry is startling. And I read a lot of complaints about KS's struggling to cope with meeting deadlines. And a less then perfect kickstarter doesn't look like a great way to kick of an ambitious project like this.

Yeah, you have to have your game face on that's for sure, but you need to have that on when you launch a product anyway. Take Sedition Wars, Lots of little problems with the game, but nothing that hardcore enthusiasts can't get over, Studio McVey will hopefully make some changes to the game before it is launched to the general public. I see that as an opportunity though. In many ways they got people to pay to Beta test the game. I think it can work out for the best actually.

You do have to discount and offer bargains for kickstarter, but it's nowhere near the retail discount that they have to provide to stores. If anything they will make more money per unit sold from the kickstarter.

As for retailers, yeah it's a double edged sword, but I don't think it's that big of an issue. Sure maybe they lose out on a couple of sales, but they now have a well hyped game with sales figures. You can basically tell if product is going to move. Game stores get stuck with a lot of junk that just doesn't sell and gets put in the bargain bin at a loss. Knowing that a product is hot is well worth the loss of a couple sales.

Look at the Dream forge Kickstarter, they were able to make a great product, that had no other way of being funded. Those things are going to go like hotcakes, retailers can see that now. Otherwise the store has to make a decision if they are going to carry an unknown product from an unknown company, which is always a big gamble.

Just like anything, Kickstarter is a tool. If used properly in the right situation, it's great. If used improperly, for the wrong product, it can go poorly.

They haven't said anything about how they'll market it yet so our discussion might be a bit premature.

Back on topic:
It's Brotherhood Day! Get out your robes and shoulder pads!

The mouth grill makes him look like he's just eaten brussel sprouts. Rest of him looks good!

Nice Armor, not really nice helmet

As for retailers, yeah it's a double edged sword, but I don't think it's that big of an issue. Sure maybe they lose out on a couple of sales, but they now have a well hyped game with sales figures. You can basically tell if product is going to move. Game stores get stuck with a lot of junk that just doesn't sell and gets put in the bargain bin at a loss. Knowing that a product is hot is well worth the loss of a couple sales.

Exactly.

It´s very much a matter of when in the life-cycle of a game you do start the KS and what you do offer. Darklands-KS is virtually a killer in our neck of the wood, cause most LGS are really angry about how they got not informed about it and now have stock they can´t sell. With the GS-KS it is much better. The game is in the first few months and not many carry the game so the minis and german rulebook will rather give it a push then everything else.