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I thought she was just wearing a fancy jacket and regular pants, lol.

Edit: The fellow below has spoken!

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thanks.

I got a chance to go through some old Chronicle magazines last night (the magazine for Chronopia and Warzone). I have to say, some of the older Capitol stuff is fantastic (in retrospect, it'd be rubbish if it came out today).

If we hit that threshhold, I may have to go for Capitol. Also, some of the old Red Devil Mishima models are great.

The Vulkan has definitely taken a huge leap forward.

 gunslingerpro wrote:
I got a chance to go through some old Chronicle magazines last night (the magazine for Chronopia and Warzone). I have to say, some of the older Capitol stuff is fantastic (in retrospect, it'd be rubbish if it came out today).

If we hit that threshhold, I may have to go for Capitol. Also, some of the old Red Devil Mishima models are great.

The Vulkan has definitely taken a huge leap forward.

Crimson Devil not Red Devil

 Capamaru wrote:

Surprise surprise she is wearing a T shirt and a vest no body armor.

It looks like body armor to me.


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Almost 50k guys. I gotta admit I was a little tepid on this (even though I have some fond memories of playing Warzone1 back in the mid 90's) but as the campaign has gone on, I've gotten more into it. To the tune of a 249 pledge.

I believe Capitol will be fantastic! They got some great ingredients for being some really cewl, kickass sci-fi Americans like the colonial marines from Aliens and so many others! I'd like to see how the new banshees will look like!

Which will the next squads be do you believe? Or which would you rather see?

The empty hand option is really growing on me. While I think the pistol one is likely what I'm going to go for.

Also, a question for those who know the universe really well. I've just started rereading my 1st edition stuff and my RPG stuff after getting it out of storage. Maybe it'll be a fun brainstorming session:

What reason does faction A have to fight faction B? We all know why Dark Legion is involved with fighting everyone else-- they're supernatural techno-horror guys who want to rule or destroy everything. But what about the other factions? Pick two factions and tell why you think they should meet on the field of battle and actually kill eachother's operatives.

My go:

Brotherhood vs Cybertronic - The brotherhood comes to believe they are corrupted by the same forces behind the Dark Legion

Sea lions feels like the most obvious "standard" Capitol unit. I'd put my money on them ending up in the starter set. The only big Capitol stuff I can think of is the Orca battlesuit. It was the ugliest stuff Heartbreaker ever made, so there is certain room for improvement there. Hopefully Prodos will continue using "non special characters" in the starters for the corps. There should be incentive for buying several boxes, and ending up with five Mitch Hunters is not that great of a selling point, IMO.

I think Free Marines wold be the most iconic Capitol Force and i hope it will be in the starter

@agustin - Well, I suppose any faction could fight the other over natural resources or the like except for the brotherhood who would fight anyone they though were heretics. That's the shorthand version as I see it anyhow. I guess any commander could come under the influence by the darkness and as an marionette be used to attack another faction.

Any of the corporations would fight each other for any reason to increase shareholder dividends, don'tcha think?

Yeah, and a commander or faction could, by not complying to the Space Popes latest rant, find themselves in disfavour of the brotherhood who'd have other factions attack them or other factions could just use it as an excuse to attack the disfavoured factiont.

There is plenty of fluff in the books about the corporations fighting to take things like oil wells and other resources. Also remember these are umbrella corporations with many smaller corporations. I seam to remember a story where A corp attacked B corp subsidiary just to drive the market price of of the subsidiary down, then they bought them out in a hostile takeover because the stock was cheap.

That's the thing with the corporations, they are completely greedy. They will sabotage each other while fighting the dark symmetry, just to make their stock go down. That's why the Brotherhood and the Cartel are so important. Humanity was almost lost because the Corporations were actively interfering with each other to the point that the dark symmetry almost won.

5:58 AM - As the sun rises, Capitol patrol spots glinting object on nearby asphalt patch in front of Mishima "Pad-Mart" shoulder armor convenience store.
5:59 AM - Capitol patrol spotter believes object is 25-cent coin, patrol radios to HQ and received confirmation to investigate.
6:01 AM - In a flurry of activity, Capitol corporate executives issue the go-ahead to capture and retrieve the 25 cents. 25 cents will boost net-profit; expenditure of resources on retrieval mission already allocated in quarterly budget as "justifiable costs".
6:02 AM Capitol patrol moves behind cover of Bauhaus hybrid Diesel/Horse cars parked in Pad-Mart lot.
6:03 AM Imperial strike force, having intercepted the Capitol communications, emerges from behind nearby Brotherhood Port-a-Pray to ambush the Capitols and retrieve the loose change for themselves...

the stage is set for
WARZONE!!
epic low-tech far-future conflicts between faceless soldiers fighting corporate proxy-wars for marginal increases in shareholder dividends

The amount of hyperbole, sensationalism, and grandstanding in the past few pages is amusing.

There are lots and lots of reasons for conflict set out in the old fluff. I suggest visiting the mutantpedia site. Wealth of info there.

I concur that the Free Marines are Capitol's signature force.

I'll dig through in a bit, but maybe someone can sum up for me: How is the card mechanic in this game? Is it a collectible aspect? It kinda seems so and that worries me a bit.

~Eric

It's not going to be collectible, don't worry. We'll get all the cards needed in the model boxes.

brynolf wrote:
It's not going to be collectible, don't worry. We'll get all the cards needed in the model boxes.

Cool. I wasn't positive. Thanks.

~Eric

They hit the 50,000GBP mark!

Is there some meaning to the horse tail whip from the old game or RPG?

 warboss wrote:
Is there some meaning to the horse tail whip from the old game or RPG?

Not really, but it looks rather cool IMO. Probably not intended as a weapon, but rather as a personality schtick.

It's a neurolash, a torture device and weapon favoured by the Order of Fear, one of the Templar orders of Bauhaus. It actually ignores armour (according to the RPG) and attacks the nervous system directly. Nasty little piece of work.

Just noticed that the Cuirassier renders aren't actually gripping the triggers on their guns, call me a sperglord if you like but that really grates me

Shadow Walker wrote:

 gunslingerpro wrote:
I got a chance to go through some old Chronicle magazines last night (the magazine for Chronopia and Warzone). I have to say, some of the older Capitol stuff is fantastic (in retrospect, it'd be rubbish if it came out today).

If we hit that threshhold, I may have to go for Capitol. Also, some of the old Red Devil Mishima models are great.

The Vulkan has definitely taken a huge leap forward.

Crimson Devil not Red Devil

Thank you. I knew the general idea

The Laughing Man wrote:
Just noticed that the Cuirassier renders aren't actually gripping the triggers on their guns, call me a sperglord if you like but that really grates me

Patroling with your finger on the trigger leads to unwanted friendly fire incidents, keep it on the frame until you're just about to fire, so since none seem to be in a 'shooting right now' pose it they look fine to me

The Laughing Man wrote:
Just noticed that the Cuirassier renders aren't actually gripping the triggers on their guns, call me a sperglord if you like but that really grates me

Good! Proper trigger discipline is rarely represented accurately! You only put your finger on the trigger when you are firing a round. Otherwise your finger stays off your trigger and your barrel pointed towards the ground.

brynolf wrote:
It's not going to be collectible, don't worry. We'll get all the cards needed in the model boxes.

But will the cards be available separately (retail purchase or download)?

As I already own two WarZone armies, I'd like to use them, but that is with the intention of buying a couple of new (different) armies as well. There's five more guys in my gaming group in pretty much the same situation. Plus three more that have never played. If the cards are available without buying new units, then our group will be looking at building 3-8 new armies.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

The Laughing Man wrote:
Just noticed that the Cuirassier renders aren't actually gripping the triggers on their guns, call me a sperglord if you like but that really grates me

Patroling with your finger on the trigger leads to unwanted friendly fire incidents, keep it on the frame until you're just about to fire, so since none seem to be in a 'shooting right now' pose it they look fine to me

Trigger discipline would involve having your finger near enough to the trigger to be able to snap off a shot while eliminating the possibility for an accidental discharge, these guys are holding their guns like they are super soakers.

Err, those guys are effing robots! Finger discipline should be the least of their problems, methinks.

I concur that the Free Marines are Capitol's signature force.

I'd agree with that. The basic capitol soldiers are their heavy and light infantry, those are what should probably come in the starter. Maybe a Purple Shark 1or 2 seater or the ugly ass walker would be the big guy, and of course some kind of captain or commander.

Capitol has so many elite forces. I think Free marines or Banshees should be the first of those released.