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I'll open the betting right now and say the new Bauhaus unit will be Etoiles Mortants.

Not wishlisting aaaaaaaaat all.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I'll open the betting right now and say the new Bauhaus unit will be Etoiles Mortants.

Not wishlisting aaaaaaaaat all.

The Etoiles and the Rangers were definitely the two main special forces of Bauhaus. Then you had, Blitzers, Dragoons, and Jaegers. Third string would be jungle fighters, mounted hussars and the rest. I used a lot of their gun emplacements actually.

Cybertronic doesn't need their fingers on the triggers, they fire through wireless smartgunlinks....

As for new units, my guess:
- Ducal Militia
- People's Volunteers
- Elite Troopers
- Centurians

 Andrew1975 wrote:
Third string would be jungle fighters

Ah, the 90's, when rotary shotguns were the s@!t

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I'll open the betting right now and say the new Bauhaus unit will be Etoiles Mortants.

Not wishlisting aaaaaaaaat all.

I hope you didn't take too many bets!!



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What does "special price" mean? Do we get the stuff £1 cheaper during the KS? Or will the final RRP go down by £1?


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Oh, and like I said: All-female Etoiles Mortants is dumb. Please don't do it

brynolf wrote:
What does "special price" mean? Do we get the stuff £1 cheaper during the KS? Or will the final RRP go down by £1?


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Oh, and like I said: All-female Etoiles Mortants is dumb. Please don't do it

The Kickstarter price will be for example £X and the RRP after Kickstarter will be £X.99

Regarding the new units, exactly almost everything I had supposed, almost... With exception of the Sacred Warriors... Sacred Warriors? no one cares about these guys. Clearly a Second Directorate list was shaping up here: Mortificators, Blessed Vestal Laura,... It was a given the Valkyries were the next Brotherhood unit!

And here I thought we're going to see Dragoons for Bauhaus.

Hi 3rd post is a charm or actually a curse in this case. Feel kinda stupid in my previous posts defending this project. Seems well not seems it actually is , all pledgers of dark legion and above receive free character mini EXCEPT UK Backers . Because we are in UK and get free shipping we don't qualify for stretch goal miniature freebies at this point. Be interesting if US based kick starters started introducing this policy. Bought this up in the kick starter page posts and to be fair threatened to pull my pledge at brotherhood level £333.00 gbp made on day one of kick starter and was basically told by prodos
to f**k off and do what the he'll I like. Check the posts mine are Under Philip Ward, maybe I was to harsh would be interested in the feedback , I can't be the only UK backer a little peeved at this .

Cheers

Phil

Something to look forward to in the future I suppose. Did you end up sending concepts for the Dragoons as well? I'd love to know which style you went with (they have had different descriptions between the RPGS, 1st Edition and 2nd Edition after all). They have ranged from lightly armed tankers, to ironclad behemoths wielding the best weapons Bauhausncan buy, to slightly better versions of Hussar. The heavily armed 1st Edition version was my favourite (along with the Wolfhead Dragoons of UWZ) and I'd love to see good looking sculpts of them with a proper kampfkanone.

Edit - DL and above aren't really getting it for free. That is basically the level that Prodos has decided will unlock subsidized shipping for International buyers (a very common concept, buy $X and get free/reduced shipping). In this case their bonus is that they get a £7 mini for £12 (or to put it another way, they are only paying £5 on shipping).

Sorry mate, but any outrage over this is kind of silly. UK is already getting free shipping, this is just Prodos setting a subsidized shipping level for international backers so that we can opt to pay £5 for shipping and a single character is a mandatory inclusion. If you want the character your cost to grab it is already cheaper than the "free" international price.

Etolies makes sence as the Rangers and Etolies were usually the features special forces of Bauhaus. I don't get the Sacred Warriors though. I'll have to brush up on my brotherhood, but it seams like they had other elites troopers that were better.

Yeah! new design to Praetorian Stalkers!

phil751 wrote:
Hi 3rd post is a charm or actually a curse in this case. Feel kinda stupid in my previous posts defending this project. Seems well not seems it actually is , all pledgers of dark legion and above receive free character mini EXCEPT UK Backers . Because we are in UK and get free shipping we don't qualify for stretch goal miniature freebies at this point. Be interesting if US based kick starters started introducing this policy. Bought this up in the kick starter page posts and to be fair threatened to pull my pledge at brotherhood level £333.00 gbp made on day one of kick starter and was basically told by prodos
to f**k off and do what the he'll I like. Check the posts mine are Under Philip Ward, maybe I was to harsh would be interested in the feedback , I can't be the only UK backer a little peeved at this .

Cheers

Phil

If that's true that is pretty crappy for UK backers. Maybe I'm not seeing it, but I didn't see where anybody gets free character mini.

Ronin please no offense but giive me one example where that is the case. What US based company has given a freebie to their international customers at the exclusion of their domestic customers. Come on that just does not happen .

phil751 wrote:
Ronin please no offense but giive me one example where that is the case. What US based company has given a freebie to their international customers at the exclusion of their domestic customers. Come on that just does not happen .

Hmm this is sadly true

Most KS tend to favor their country of origin. Its mostly unavoidable with the crazy shenanigans with international shipping, so while compensation for that seems fair it might be better if stretch goals applied to everyone

phil751 wrote:
Hi 3rd post is a charm or actually a curse in this case. Feel kinda stupid in my previous posts defending this project. Seems well not seems it actually is , all pledgers of dark legion and above receive free character mini EXCEPT UK Backers . Because we are in UK and get free shipping we don't qualify for stretch goal miniature freebies at this point. Be interesting if US based kick starters started introducing this policy. Bought this up in the kick starter page posts and to be fair threatened to pull my pledge at brotherhood level £333.00 gbp made on day one of kick starter and was basically told by prodos
to f**k off and do what the he'll I like. Check the posts mine are Under Philip Ward, maybe I was to harsh would be interested in the feedback , I can't be the only UK backer a little peeved at this .

Cheers

Phil

Not impressed by this at all. I see little incentive to actually become a backer.

Its all very well simply saying to "52 days to go" but if you actively put of people backing you then perhaps there won't be much to show when those 52 days are up.

@phil751 sounds very bizarre I'll have to check it out

About shipping, and I know this isn't helpful much, but I can guarantee that if a Canadian kickstarter of this size and ambition were put out, it would never offer free Canadian shipping. Shipping inside Canada is almost as bad as shipping from outside Canada.

Just saying...

Étoiles? I'm on board.

Although I did like to take Dragoons in my force, even over Rangers because of the Kampfkanone (those would hold almost any objective because of the nice weight of fire they could bring about) but I always, always fielded a unit of the girls.

@Count Zero: In the fluff it makes sense that it's only women. They are only recruited because they cannot bear children (social commentary aside) and thus devote their lives to actively defending their Megacorp. It's super regressive and doesn't show the value of women in the workplace... but it is fluffy.

I have observed the conversation and I think its more of a storm in a teacup, I feel international order customers of dark legion and below should be more frustrated for not getting the "P&P sweetener" since they pay more per box for shipping than the dark legion and above.

For the record they said if you live in the UK, sure pay 12 pounds P&P to get a 7 pounds miniature free.

I din't find it to be that insulting.

And if they make them as realistic as the Angelika sculpt, I'll be even more won over.


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Prodos: If I may make just a bit of constructive criticism regarding the Vulkan suit? Could we have a bit of hydraulics going toward the back of the foot? It would make sense, and decrease the "fuzzy slippers" look of the feet to boot.

JUst a suggestions.

phil751 wrote:Hi 3rd post is a charm or actually a curse in this case. Feel kinda stupid in my previous posts defending this project. Seems well not seems it actually is , all pledgers of dark legion and above receive free character mini EXCEPT UK Backers . Because we are in UK and get free shipping we don't qualify for stretch goal miniature freebies at this point. Be interesting if US based kick starters started introducing this policy. Bought this up in the kick starter page posts and to be fair threatened to pull my pledge at brotherhood level £333.00 gbp made on day one of kick starter and was basically told by prodos
to f**k off and do what the he'll I like. Check the posts mine are Under Philip Ward, maybe I was to harsh would be interested in the feedback , I can't be the only UK backer a little peeved at this .

Cheers

Phil

Palindrome wrote:

phil751 wrote:
Hi 3rd post is a charm or actually a curse in this case. Feel kinda stupid in my previous posts defending this project. Seems well not seems it actually is , all pledgers of dark legion and above receive free character mini EXCEPT UK Backers . Because we are in UK and get free shipping we don't qualify for stretch goal miniature freebies at this point. Be interesting if US based kick starters started introducing this policy. Bought this up in the kick starter page posts and to be fair threatened to pull my pledge at brotherhood level £333.00 gbp made on day one of kick starter and was basically told by prodos
to f**k off and do what the he'll I like. Check the posts mine are Under Philip Ward, maybe I was to harsh would be interested in the feedback , I can't be the only UK backer a little peeved at this .

Cheers

Phil

Not impressed by this at all. I see little incentive to actually become a backer.

Its all very well simply saying to "52 days to go" but if you actively put of people backing you then perhaps there won't be much to show when those 52 days are up.

Wow, talk about acting like entitled children. If you are in the UK and you are a backer you don't have to pay the shipping or additional taxes that international buyers will have to.

And lets not forget the sad fact that if the game doesn't make it in America it won't make it, unfortunately the same can't be said for american games in the UK. A single free miniature to encourage international buyers to spend big and invest in a new product is a good thing and not worth having such a huge whinge about.

As for seeing little incentive to back the project, well, that's entirely subjective but if helping a project off the ground while also getting it sooner, cheaper, and with exclusive bonuses isn't incentive while one single free miniature is then that's your pejorative.

If you don't want to back it then don't, Prodos are more than justified in telling you this when you attempt to generate drama in their KS comments.

@ uncle bad touch to be honest I initially I thought it must be some language mix up but it's definitely true UK backers DO NOT receive the free mini at 50k stretch goal level it is only for the rest of the world. brilliant marketing I for one will definitely be talking about the merits of this project at my gaming club , just praying that goa will have a more realistic kick starter mkii in the near future. I was really excited to see mc back again after over 25 years in this hobby but that excitement is taking a sharp decline. If this issue is not rectified within the next 48 hours I. Will pull my pledge and hope a lot of other backers will do the same same . YOU CANNOT DISCRIMINATE ON GEOGRAPHY . If you are not in the country of origin you expect to pay a reasonable/ sensible postal contribution As is fair , you don't get perks at the expense of others generally.

Cheers

Phil

Phil, it's not like you suddenly gained less than before. If you thought it was worth backing before this decision, then nothing has changed since.

It's merely compensating for the higher shipping (that in a sense IS geographic discrimination), that's all!

The Laughing Man wrote:

Wow, talk about acting like entitled children

There should be an update to Godwin's law; as soon as someone mentions 'entitlement' the discussion is lost, or more likley rendered meaningless.

I already see little value in this KS and arbitrary restrictions based upon my postal address are not going to make me more likely to back this, quite the reverse.

phil751 wrote:
@ uncle bad touch to be honest I initially I thought it must be some language mix up but it's definitely true UK backers DO NOT receive the free mini at 50k stretch goal level it is only for the rest of the world. brilliant marketing I for one will definitely be talking about the merits of this project at my gaming club , just praying that goa will have a more realistic kick starter mkii in the near future. I was really excited to see mc back again after over 25 years in this hobby but that excitement is taking a sharp decline. If this issue is not rectified within the next 48 hours I. Will pull my pledge and hope a lot of other backers will do the same same . YOU CANNOT DISCRIMINATE ON GEOGRAPHY . If you are not in the country of origin you expect to pay a reasonable/ sensible postal contribution As is fair , you don't get perks at the expense of others generally.

Cheers

Phil

what you are talking about? look at US based KS... they got free shipping.... you don't, so would you call this DISCRIMINATE ON GEOGRAPHY ? Man is late, maybe time to go to bed, instead flaming about £7...

These designs are looking great.

phil751 wrote:
YOU CANNOT DISCRIMINATE ON GEOGRAPHY .

Ok then, pay P&P like the rest of us and get a 7 pound miniature free, if you chose dark legion pledge or higher.

Palindrome wrote:

The Laughing Man wrote:

Wow, talk about acting like entitled children

There should be an update to Godwin's law; as soon as someone mentions 'entitlement' the discussion is lost, or more likley rendered meaningless.

I already see little value in this KS and arbitrary restrictions based upon my postal address are not going to make me more likely to back this, quite the reverse.

Like I said, don't back it.

You may as well also amend Godwin's law to include people suggesting amendment's to Godwin's law. It's steadily reaching the point that it's used to dismiss reasonable arguments or statements instead of chastising people for being flippant about Nazis and the holocaust.