Why is there no thread on this? Ex Cop waging one man war on LAPD

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**Bromsy**

In February 2013, Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, an ex-Navy Reservist and former Los Angeles police officer, was named a suspect wanted in connection to several shootings that occurred throughout Southern California. In a manifesto that was posted online, he declared "unconventional and asymmetric war" upon the Los Angeles Police Department over what he considered to be his unfair dismissal from the police force in 2008. In his "war" Dorner declared the police and their families as his targets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner

http://ktla.com/2013/02/07/read-christopher-dorners-so-called-manifesto/#axzz2KBNQ3fxg

http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/07/lapd-cop-killer-christopher-dorner-tim-tebow-charlie-sheen-larry-david/

And the reasonable response by the LAPD is to freak out and shoot people for driving a vehicle similar to his.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

**DarkTraveler777**

I am still in shock about the two Asian women who were shot by the LAPD. Those police officers better be punted off the force for such gross misconduct. Some jail time would be nice too.

**Mattman154**

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I am still in shock about the two Asian women who were shot by the LAPD. Those police officers better be punted off the force for such gross misconduct. Some jail time would be nice too.

**skyfi**

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

Look at the photo. Someone embed. Holy

Same link as op.'woops.

Mobile sorry or would do it myself.

That is crazy.

**Bromsy**

Tossed it in the OP.

**Ratbarf**

Commence LAPD are racist jokes in 3, 2, 1.

**Necroshea**

Cops acting stupid? Say it ain't so!

Wrists will be slapped, then backs will be slapped, then it's like it never happened.

**Goliath**

Luckily from what I could make of the article, despite the damage to the car the women recieved injuries to their hand and back, respectively, and seem to be doing well.
Still, as much as I'd like the cops involved to be punished, it seems very unlikely

**Ouze**

If it turns out that he was actually framed, and all of the cops he killed were corrupt pawns of some shady crime lord, this would be a great movie plot.

I mean, that's probably not going to happen, though.

**Dreadwinter**

Goliath wrote:
Luckily from what I could make of the article, despite the damage to the car the women recieved injuries to their hand and back, respectively, and seem to be doing well.
Still, as much as I'd like the cops involved to be punished, it seems very unlikely

Luckily for those ladies, the LAPDs accuracy is almost as bad as the NYPDs.

**Ouze**

Indeed, soldiers who are engaging what are possibly car-bombs at checkpoints in a war zone show more fire restraint, FFS.

**timetowaste85**

Frank Castle called: he doesn't like copycats.

**Hordini**

I get that the LAPD are jumpy right now, but they need to fething check their fire. I hope they can nab this guy before he shoots anyone else, but I also hope they can nab him before they shoot anyone else.

**Grey Templar**

Dreadwinter wrote:
Goliath wrote:
Luckily from what I could make of the article, despite the damage to the car the women recieved injuries to their hand and back, respectively, and seem to be doing well.
Still, as much as I'd like the cops involved to be punished, it seems very unlikely

Luckily for those ladies, the LAPDs accuracy is almost as bad as the NYPDs.

Yeah, but the NYPD has the advantage that even if they miss their intended target they may hit another criminal anyway

**MrDwhitey**

Isn't it even better in that the two women were in a blue Toyota, and the suspect was in a grey Nissan?

**Fafnir**

Mattman154 wrote:
DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I am still in shock about the two Asian women who were shot by the LAPD. Those police officers better be punted off the force for such gross misconduct. Some jail time would be nice too.

The funny part being that the cops responsible getting off with a slap on the wrist only helps to vindicate that crazy melon-fether's point.

Of course, it doesn't change the fact that he's a crazy ass melon-fether.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Of course, the militant anti-gun crowd is gonna run with this, and the militant pro-gun crowd (in both groups i'm talking about the talking heads that are actually on TV, not us normal folk) will point out how bat-gak crazy this guy is..

Funny thing, yesterday at work, i had an article pulled up on this guy, and a co-worker walked up and over my shoulder said, "damn, when did LL Cool J get so fat?".

**skyfi**

I believe the quoted alert from police specify a gray or blue nitro. The author of article merely says gray I think? Would have to re read it.

**master of ordinance**

Holy feth thats bad. Still how the hell did the officers believe that to be his car? and i mean surely the donut eating oafs must have realised their mistake before they turned the car into a sumos colander?

I just hope that this finishes befor either side nails anymore inoccents.

Damn though this really is a black and white battle huh?

**Alfndrate**

skyfi wrote:
I believe the quoted alert from police specify a gray or blue nitro. The author of article merely says gray I think? Would have to re read it.

Updates have said a Blue or Grey Nissan Titan which is a pickup truck >_<

Also glad Ouze picked up on the move plot aspect, because good or evil I thought this was the plot of the next NCIS: LA episode.

**Ahtman**

More Info

It goes into a little bit more about the incident that caused his dismissal from the LAPD, and some other background info.

Dorner graduated and served for only four months in the field before being deployed to the Middle East in 2006 and 2007. When he returned, he was assigned to a training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, who became increasingly alarmed at his conduct, according a summary of an interview with Evans in Dorner's disciplinary file.

The burly man with tattoos on his biceps repeatedly asked why he was not sent to reintegration training after his return from war and on one occasion, began weeping in the patrol car and demanded to be taken back to the police academy to be retrained, court documents show.

Dorner also told Evans he was building a house in Las Vegas and intended to sue the department after his probationary period was over — a conversation Evans reported to a superior.

Evans began collecting examples of "deficiencies" in Dorner's police work — including talking to a suspect on a "man with a gun" call without taking cover. After much prodding, Evans recounts, Dorner told her he "might have some issues regarding his deployment."

On Aug. 4, 2007, Evans warned Dorner that she would give him an unsatisfactory rating and request that he be removed from the field unless he improved.

Six days later, Dorner reported to internal affairs that in the course of an arrest Evans had kicked a severely mentally ill man in the chest and left cheek. His report came two weeks after the arrest, police and court records allege.

Three civilian witnesses and a harbor policeman all said they didn't see Evans kick the man, who had a quarter-inch scratch on his cheek consistent with his fall into a bush. The police review board ruled against Dorner, leading to his dismissal.

"The delay in reporting the alleged misconduct, coupled with the witnesses' statements, irreparably destroy Dorner's credibility and bring into question his suitability for continued employment as a police officer," the file reads.

It is starting to seem like someone who couldn't accept life not going his way and so created an external tormenter to become a transcendent hero figure. It isn't that gak happens, it is that the LAPD is trying to destroy him, and now he is a paragon of virtue standing up against injustice. It seems unlikely that his discharge from the Navy was barely a week ago before shooting the daughter of the man who was his defender in the IA investigation from 2008. We don't know much about his time in the Navy yet, and perhaps he was suffering from PTSD after coming back state side? That explains the weeping in the car, but that was years ago, and the Navy never discharged him either so it doesn't seem as if he had that much trouble.

The response to corruption isn't killing civilians in cold blood; terrorism destroys any legitimacy he may have wanted.

**whembly**

Exactly... I've read his manifesto... holy.gak.he's.off.his.rockers.

And I blame the whole premise of "why is he doing this" that is seeped in our culture. He's doing this for attention... the best thing to do is capture him quietly and throw the book at him without sensationalizing the whole thing.

**Hordini**

whembly wrote:
Exactly... I've read his manifesto... holy.gak.he's.off.his.rockers.

And I blame the whole premise of "why is he doing this" that is seeped in our culture. He's doing this for attention... the best thing to do is capture him quietly and throw the book at him without sensationalizing the whole thing.

Unfortunately, not sensationalizing it is something that the media is absolutely unable to even consider doing.

**Ahtman**

Understanding why someone is doing something is not the same thing as sensationalizing a thing. We like to understand why and/or how things happen so that we can predict/prevent them from happening, or at the very least reduce the likelihood. Understanding the reasons, not what he believes they are, but the underlying, driving force, may help us catch him sooner, as well. This is not to say that this won't be a media storm, it will, but I don't think that is reason alone to not try to understand what went wrong, and why.

In my above post I meant to say that it seems unlikely that his recent discharge is unconnected to him starting to murder people a few days later.

**Hordini**

Oh, I definitely think it's worth it to try to figure out and understand why this happened. I just don't think that that is the media's prime concern. Their first priority is getting higher ratings. Everything else is secondary.

**whembly**

Ahtman wrote:
Understanding why someone is doing something is not the same thing as sensationalizing a thing. We like to understand why and/or how things happen so that we can predict/prevent them from happening, or at the very least reduce the likelihood. Understanding the reasons, not what he believes they are, but the underlying, driving force, may help us catch him sooner, as well. This is not to say that this won't be a media storm, it will, but I don't think that is reason alone to not try to understand what went wrong, and why.

In my above post I meant to say that it seems unlikely that his recent discharge is unconnected to him starting to murder people a few days later.

Okay... I've sorta calmed down... yes, we'd need to understand what made him tweak, I was referring the the media storm sensationalizing this... which gives the whackos a forum.

**Alfndrate**

whembly wrote:
Ahtman wrote:
Understanding why someone is doing something is not the same thing as sensationalizing a thing. We like to understand why and/or how things happen so that we can predict/prevent them from happening, or at the very least reduce the likelihood. Understanding the reasons, not what he believes they are, but the underlying, driving force, may help us catch him sooner, as well. This is not to say that this won't be a media storm, it will, but I don't think that is reason alone to not try to understand what went wrong, and why.

In my above post I meant to say that it seems unlikely that his recent discharge is unconnected to him starting to murder people a few days later.

Okay... I've sorta calmed down... yes, we'd need to understand what made him tweak, I was referring the the media storm sensationalizing this... which gives the whackos a forum.

DakkaDakka has given this wacko a forum

But I only ever get told to put a wash on it

**Mattman154**

Bromsy wrote:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

Only police should have guns

/flamesuit

**Hordini**

Mattman154 wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

Only police should have guns

/flamesuit

/thread

Nothing to see here lads! Smoke 'em if you got 'em!

**Ahtman**

The only problem with this line of reasoning is that it cuts both ways. The guy killed a police officer who was trained and experienced in firearms, not just unarmed civilians. It has been presented that having a gun means that you will always be protected, and yet, magically, somehow this man was able to penetrate the magic defense of being armed, and was able to kill him. Apparently having a gun and having training is no guarantee of not being killed by an attacker. Though it did help the gunman, obliviously.

I think we all know this is going to be turned into a liberal conspiracy to further gun control.