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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 20:19:41
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I have played anywhere from 500 to 4000 points in 6th edition and can't decide what is the most fun or the most fair. In theory, armies should be equal at all levels based on their points, but certain armies have a distinct advantage at certain points levels. For example, Orks can bring 150 or so boyz at 1000 points, which can be incredibly difficult to kill. Which points value is the most fun to play?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 20:30:59
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Anything between 1500 and 2500 in my experience allows for the most fun. But tastes may vary on the mater
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 20:32:10
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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For me ( and it seems most brits) 1500 to 1750 seems to be the standard, I have noticed alot of Americans seem to play 2k +, is that the tourney standard over there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 20:33:37
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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I generally play around 1850, it seems like you can make some pretty good lists at that point level. It is also the standard in the area I live in so most local people build for that point level.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 20:45:53
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Fixture of Dakka
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1250-1500 is probably the most balanced IMO. Some armies scale far better than others though.
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Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 20:49:53
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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For learning games, keep it smaller, but enough that you can field a variety of units: ~1000.
Once you can play 1500 point games at a reasonable pace, I find that 1750 allows you to field a big enough variety without the game becoming a total grind. At 2000 points, the game slows WAY down in my experience.
After 3 hours, I don't want to play 40k anymore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 20:55:53
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Dakka Veteran
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I personnally think that 1500 is the best point level. At that point level the game is big enough to allow for tactics and for the game to swing back and forward (at lower points you are really susceptible to one round of bad dice deciding the game) and small enough that you can usually get 7 turns in in 2 hours.
I also think that the codexs are the most balanced at that level. Some codexs are really strong at lower and others spam really well at higher. At 1500 you can take whatever you want but you have to make strategic decisions because you don't have points to waste.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 21:08:04
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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I really like 1850. It lets you take a big chunk of the things you think make your army fun (badass HQs, a fortification, an extra ool Heavy or elite) without straying into double-FOC and easy spam.
Most 1000-1500 games I've seen were dominated so thoroughly by IG, Orks and Nids that they did not seem fun. You spent over half your points just getting two so-so troops in there while they get a stack of bodies for less than a third of the point total and spend the rest on Killa Kans, Leman Russes, Vendettas and Tervigons you will not be able to counter.
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In Boxing matches, you actually get paid to take a dive and make the other guy look good.
In Warhammer 40K, you're expected to pay cash out of your pocket for the privilege of having Marines and IG trample all over your Xenos/Chaos. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 21:25:08
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Emboldened Warlock
Duncan, B.C
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For me, it's really whatever points level I can play. I generally only get to play once every 2-3 weeks, so any warhammer is good warhammer for me. I used to play every week or so and did almost exclusively 1500 points due to time constraints so that's what I'm most familiar with, but every once in awhile I like to do a "big" 2000 point game.
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40k Armies:
Alaitoc 9300 points
Chaos 15000 points
Speed Freeks 3850 points
WHFB Armies:
Lizardmen 1000 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 21:25:33
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Terrifying Wraith
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I play 1500 or 2000 pts and play agains anyone whose better than me..... that mean everybody in the world.... shame on me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 21:33:21
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I agree, the double force org at 2k does encourage lots of spam and as game->spam, fun->0 :|
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/13 21:41:15
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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I find 1500-1850 the most fun, i dont really have anything to make a good list at higher points yet xD (it'd be a huuge mix!)
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Waagh like a bawz
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 07:51:46
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Massachusetts
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I'm a big fan of the 1500 pt and 1850 pt games. 1000 can be fun for faster, friendly games, but I always find myself leaving out something I really want in a 1000 pt list. 2000+ pts seems crazy with the double FoC, I think I'd only do that for Apocalypse games and the like.
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Space Wolves - 1500 pts
Orks - WIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 08:03:12
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Douglas Bader
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1000-1500. Enough points to field a full army with some level of redundancy on key units, but still small enough that games are fast and you have to make difficult choices about what to bring instead of just taking everything you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 08:07:09
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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For fun casual games 1000-1500 is good
for tournies, 1500-1750 seems bettter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 08:10:42
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Fighter Pilot
Pennsylvania
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1850 seems to be where an army is able to be competitive, without leaving huge gaps in their overall ability to be truly TAC, without dipping into the whole mess that is 2k double force-org.
1850 also keeps games at reasonable length.
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Gunline IG 1850 pts
Elysian IG 3000 pts
Horus Heresy Imperial Fists 500 pts
W/L/D: 35/6/4 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 08:31:51
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, we usually play our RTTs at the 1850 pt level and it works fine.
The ToS here in Germany is played at 1500 pts. That's too less if you ask me.
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Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 08:56:30
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Focused Fire Warrior
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It REALLY varies. I personally don't like playing low-point games; 1500 is the minimum I play at (and even then I'm grumbling). I'm more comfortable at 2000+.
Formosa wrote:For me ( and it seems most brits) 1500 to 1750 seems to be the standard, I have noticed alot of Americans seem to play 2k +, is that the tourney standard over there?
Varies from place to place. For example, there are about three FLGSs in my area that have regular tourneys, one has there's at 1000, the other at 1500, and the third one usually plays at 2000. Pretty much, there is no standard; its whatever the store feels like running it at, so, it forces you to be a very adaptive player.
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3000 pts. or more
3000 pts. or more |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 10:24:53
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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I like 1500 up to 2000pts.
I've never thad the time for anything bigger, although I'm really going to try and get a big Apocalypse game going this Summer.
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Apologies for talking positively about games I enjoy.
Orkz Rokk!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 17:37:22
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Nasty Nob
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1000-2000 is ideal for me. You can pretty much take what slots you want at 2000 +
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 18:01:57
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Slippery Scout Biker
PA USA
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I do not like anything over 2000. I need at least 1000 for it to feel like a legit game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 18:10:35
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Fireknife Shas'el
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1500-1750 Lots of choices but it is harder to put out list that spam certain elite, Fast attack, and Heavy support units.
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8000 Dark Angels (No primaris)
10000 Lizardmen (Fantasy I miss you)
3000 High Elves
4000 Kel'shan Ta'u
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 18:16:18
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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1500-1850 is my favorite, because it lets me take anything I want or need, and allows more expensive and inclusive strategies and synergy without cutting corners.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/02/14 18:16:31
Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 18:21:55
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
Simi Valley, CA
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I prefer 1500-2000 points. 1500 for a shorter game, 2000 for a "all the toys" game.
Playing 2500, 3000, or even 4000 points gets to be a bit much, and the smaller point game can vary wildly with the dice. That said, I like all point values, and am always down for a good game at any points
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40k
Ragnar Blackmane's Great Company - 7,000 points | The Red Foxes - 1,000 points
Fantasy
The Brave Men of Talabheim - 8,000 points | Lizardmen - 7,000 points | Skaven - 4,000 points | O &G - 1,500 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/14 18:52:17
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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1,500 give or take 250 points. Big enough to have a good sized force, but small enough to have to make choices. If the points get to high, not only do lists turn spammy, but games drag on to long.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 15:54:26
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Raging Ravener
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I prefer 2000, but my play group usually wants 1500.  My poor bugs need to stretch their legs!
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5,500 18/4/2 w/l/d
2,000 2/1/0 w/l/d
Message me if you'd be interested in buying / trading for a beginner's SW army! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 16:20:11
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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I'm a fan of 1500. Enough room to get in what we want and not excluding anything due to lack of points. Moves quickly enough to not take all afternoon.
1000 pts is nice for a casual game but it seems like some armies can't get enough boots on the ground to feel like they're doing well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 16:29:22
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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1500-1850 is good. That said its nice to have a mad game of 2500 now and again if you have the time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 16:52:57
Subject: What is the best points level to play at?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I personally like 2000 points, but 1750 works well for me too. I'm not a fan of less than 1500 as while that's fine for most horde armies, elite armies struggle to take the options they want/need (I don't play an elite army, but I prefer the game to be fair  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/15 17:01:57
Subject: Re:What is the best points level to play at?
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Under previous editions I preferred 2000pt games.
With the double-FoC thing now kicking in at 2000pts in 6th, I find it turns too much into a big-guns heavy support spamming match much of the time, and prefer 1850 now, though often play 1000pt games as they're fast to play.
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