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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/01 23:27:34
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Speaking of primaris...which one of the following four would you get to go with Dark Imperium, if you were only gonna get one within the next six or so months:
Rievers
Aggressors
Redemptor Dreadnought
Repulsor tank
I've got ~59 dollars to spend to hit free shipping in my MM cart and I'm gonna buy Dark Imperium once I hit critical mass in bonus points on my cards (probably from Amazon though). So I wanna get this order shipped and thought I may compliment the primarines with an actual "off the shelf" purchase. But I can't just buy one of all the new things on one go.
So for my consideration, which new box would you guys prefer to see join my Angels Ascendant?
The creepy skull face terror troops with their bevy of extra skull faces ripe for conversions?
The Centurions we need *and* deserve?
The badass new mega Dreadnought?
The new "what if Land's raider and skimmer had a baby and sent it to predator school" hovertank with it's massive carrying capacity and horde of weaponry?
I wasn't considering the Repulsor at first because it's $68, but that's only 9 dollars over the mark and I'm gonna have to add a few dollars to the other three to make $100 anyway. The aggressors actually allow for upwards of $20 to spend but on what I dunno.
The Rievers kit would add some numbers to my ranks and the extra heads supposedly for conversions.
The aggressors feel like Centurions done right, and I kinda like the idea of the big chunky bastards sprinting forth on their toes to unleash short ranged mayhem before punching things to death.
The new dread is just buckets of awesome. Too big for traditional weapons, it gets its own batch of brutal kill cannons and is supposedly a great kit with which to work.
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/01 23:35:37
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Your Hellblasters from the Dark Imperium box really need a ride to be most effective, so I'd say go with the Repulsor. I myself plan to get one as of my next paycheck. Plus the Repulsor's also very cool looking (at least to me).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/01 23:36:43
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I guess know no fear comes in at the same as the Repulsor and would chunk up both factions from Dark Imperium though it seems like a bit less of a bargain compared. I think the main think you miss out on is the second intercessors squad and 10 plague walker things. Well it's like 21 models less.... So.. well I think you lose the characters who aren't the captain/Lord of corruption and maybe a couple death guard. You do still get the drone and inceptors.
Actually disregarding the rule book, First strike does a decent job on $$ per model. If you prorate the book DI slays it but still Automatically Appended Next Post: How many guys fit in that Repulsor? I feel like the hellblasters need hit support to really shine (and to confidently blaze away full tilt).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/01 23:45:55
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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GrimDork wrote:How many guys fit in that Repulsor? I feel like the hellblasters need hit support to really shine (and to confidently blaze away full tilt).
Repulsor fits 10 Primaris guys, with Gravis-armored models like the DI captain and Aggressors taking up 2 slots. So stick in the Gravis captain for rerolling 1's and the 5 Hellblasters from the starter and go nuts! You could even throw in a Lieutenant for rerolling 1's to wound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/02 00:22:13
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Cheers! Any word on if it can have normal marines in it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/02 01:28:48
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I've been looking and been able to stay clear of buying any of them. But I am a dreadnought whore  . I leave the tanks to shaso.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/02 01:47:23
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Yeah Redempty tugs at my heart strings. The Repulsor is *kinda* growing on me. I wish there was a dedicated primaris assault unit to cram in there though. Rievers are more of s skirmish/distraction unit. Like melee Aggressors. Err... More melee even. Also not sure I need a second land raider style tank, would be madness to field them simultaneously.
That dread though, I think I saw him with a helmeted sarcophagus. Heart melts. Of course I could probably talk myself into another small/budget box to go with Aggressors since they'd put me nearly $20 down from free shipping. Not sure what is even in that range though...scouts? Automatically Appended Next Post: Holy gak. Think I found the stats for the Repulsor. What a bullet hose!! You can swap things around to get up to 5 fragstorm grenade launchers if I'm reading it right... That's... 5d6 bolter shots at 18" eesh. And that's not counting the 12 shot s5 -1 save cannon, and the 6 shot pintle variant. Oh and two heavy bolters...
Or you can take lascannons and a last talon and still most of the grenades. It's like all the firepower of a classic land raider from 3 guns and then there's still 3-5 left lol. I don't even care if it's good or cost effective anymore...soooo many dice thrown
Zomg... Give it 3 Aggressors, the gravis Captain, and a lieutenant... Soooo many shots with reroll 1 to hit and wound
I was kinda on the fence about it but all of the missile/grenades it gaks out... It's like s freaking anime battleship.
Damn now I gotta think about this..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/03 12:38:49
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Ok slightly lighter grey Terminators. I think I'll wait for the finished product lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/04 02:10:39
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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In other news I managed to dig out my scouts. I have a potential maximum of 21 though it's probably easiest to go with 20.
I've got my painted batch with 4 scoped and suppressed bolters and the heavy bolter, 10 happy to hack things up with blades and bolt pistols (may convert sgt to have blade+chainsword or dual chainswords for max attacks), and 5 with sniper rifle..if I can find three.
I could go with the HB in the sniper squad but it dilutes their purpose as it can't snipe characters..even with split fire, a unified approach is appealing. I'm also considering a heavy bolter for the melee scouts since it's just 10 points..but they may end up running around and advancing to threaten charges so maybe not.
They give a nice range band of points to slot into lists: 65 for the bolter scouts, 75-90(if they take camo cloaks) for the snipers, and 110 for the cheap as chips basic equipment melee scouts. I suppose the bolter scouts could take cloaks too at 80, no need to discriminate.
Would be a nice easy 15 minis to paint after my terminators. The terms would bring me to 28 painted/finished for the Angels Ascendant, so 15 more scouts would bump them to 43. Then I'd be within 10 minis of my DI equivalency target.
Gotta hunt down some arms though. May be raiding my enforcer Pathfinders for rifles but we'll see. Modern scout laser snipers look a lot like lasguns with extensions.
Photos when I have them ready . Automatically Appended Next Post: Also side note, if I do the scouts next I'm basically throwing our my "make a 2000 point list and build+paint it" plan out the window. But I'll wind up with 2000 painted points eventually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/04 02:35:58
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Well, well, you had it lurking there in the background all along didn't you, your dark side.......Speesh MAArines.
Fantastic work bud, they are looking good and by the sound of it you will have a nice army soon. Great work bud.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/04 02:58:16
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Yeah I mean I had a few back in 3rd edition from the starter but favored dark eldar then tyranids. Got some guardsmen that never made traction and eventually started hoarding space marine bits and eBay rescues in 2011. I've still never really had a painted 40k army. I had damn near to 2000 points of fantasy empire painted though many got sold or traded. But never more than a bit of 40k at a time.
So looking forward to having a big fat space marine army just cause I never did lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/05 00:26:11
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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GrimDork wrote:Speaking of primaris...which one of the following four would you get to go with Dark Imperium, if you were only gonna get one within the next six or so months:
Rievers
Aggressors
Redemptor Dreadnought
Repulsor tank
I've got ~59 dollars to spend to hit free shipping in my MM cart and I'm gonna buy Dark Imperium once I hit critical mass in bonus points on my cards (probably from Amazon though). So I wanna get this order shipped and thought I may compliment the primarines with an actual "off the shelf" purchase. But I can't just buy one of all the new things on one go.
So for my consideration, which new box would you guys prefer to see join my Angels Ascendant?
The creepy skull face terror troops with their bevy of extra skull faces ripe for conversions?
The Centurions we need *and* deserve?
The badass new mega Dreadnought?
The new "what if Land's raider and skimmer had a baby and sent it to predator school" hovertank with it's massive carrying capacity and horde of weaponry?
I wasn't considering the Repulsor at first because it's $68, but that's only 9 dollars over the mark and I'm gonna have to add a few dollars to the other three to make $100 anyway. The aggressors actually allow for upwards of $20 to spend but on what I dunno.
The Rievers kit would add some numbers to my ranks and the extra heads supposedly for conversions.
The aggressors feel like Centurions done right, and I kinda like the idea of the big chunky bastards sprinting forth on their toes to unleash short ranged mayhem before punching things to death.
The new dread is just buckets of awesome. Too big for traditional weapons, it gets its own batch of brutal kill cannons and is supposedly a great kit with which to work.
Thoughts?
Well, personally...
I'm very keen on that New Dreadnought. But then I've always loved the Dread kits and they pretty much just seem to keep getting better. I plan to get a pair (at least).
The Repulsor I'm a bit more indifferent to. I'll get one eventually, I'm sure - but it might be a long ways off. I also intend to completely ignore the Primaris/non-Primaris transport restrictions in our games here as they clearly only exist to push the sale of new transport models.
Reivers I'm also a bit cool on. I'll get one box at least, and some of the push-fit ones. I'm more interested in them for the bits and the 10-man squad makes it a bit more of a value purchase.
Aggressors I really like, model-wise at least. They're pretty expensive though at only 3 in the box for models I'd want a ton of.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/05 19:59:57
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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So what, exactly, was your suggestion? That's kinda where I am, not for each item exactly but, I like them all and can't decide lol.
The dread is beefy and cool for sure, though I have several dreads I could paint ready so dunno.
The rievers look cool and may have extra bits. A distraction/disruption unit is neat too.
The Aggressors are just a ridiculously chunky gun laden group that can both advance and shoot or dog in and shoot better. Plus eventual punching.
The Repulsor is a land raider class tank from what I can see and has just buckets of dice if you want to load it that way.
If I'm honest for my scheme, given the drybrush and thick glaze...it leads to inconsistency that's more forgivable on infantry than tanks (drop pod is a clear example of this) so I'm off two minds on the dread and tank...
On one hand, they're less viable for my paint scheme. On the other, tanks and walkers and so on are what make 40k the game it is. I don't get those kinds of units in TNT, pulp alley, infinity, or so on. So it's like... They're what make the game cool/distinct but I also know I'll be less happy with the finished paint work.
The two infantry options will take the scheme better but won't help to give the Primaris dudes a sense of ownership over any of the vehicles they're gonna be fielded with.
Normally I'd be able to easily pick but these four options are all cool and I'd like to pick em all up eventually lol. I guess I should consider what is going to be the most likely to get painted too.. I need to maintain forward momentum and I fear a big tank or dread may bog me down...though either would make a sweet centerpiece haha.
I'm going round in circles. On the bright side, I did get the terminators to the blue stage and those 15 scouts are almost sorted out in terms of bits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/06 05:29:32
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Ok so I didn't manage any more steps on the Terminators, but I did 95% finish the build for the scouts. So what I've got now is 15 cadian legged scouts and 5 full SM bodied scouts. Some have all scout arms and there are a few cadian arms as well as a couple space marine arms sans pauldron.
I've got them built as 5 bolter scouts with heavy bolter, 5 sniper scouts with folded camo cloaks for the option, and 10 pistol/blade combat scouts. I also have a power fist and a storm bolter ready, but I need to find a missing arm for one bolter scout and find an arm to pair with the storm bolter.
May add a few Gubbins to the melee scouts but they're probably fine. Oh, a note, I modded the land speeder storm crew into 5 regular scouts. One will need a tactical rocks upon which to sit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/06 06:01:41
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I like the custom sniper rifles! They make me think of the sniper rifle from the Halo games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/06 13:53:57
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Thanks  . It's probably the non-space marine esque geometry on the scopes. I think they were guardsman binoculars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/06 21:00:15
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Agreed with Zerg - the snipers look great, and the scopes do have a Halo-esque look to them. Very cool.
As for your purchases. If I'm going purely on "best model" I would get the Dreadnought and/or the Aggressors. I'll probably buy one of each together, and first when I get to buying new Primaris models, so take your pick from one of that pair based on your own preferences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/06 22:10:41
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Advice on Deathwing Knight conversions weapons (aesthetics)
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Hmm food for thought.
Scouts got primed. Even the eBay rescues look alright with a fresh undercoat. May be a little soft detail in some spots but mostly they're fine.
Probably could have nearly finished those terminators today but surprise plumbing issues have kept me from being productive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/13 13:32:14
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Martian/desert sand experiment
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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So what do you folks think? It's the snow mix but with red/orange instead of white.
If i we're gonna do something that could conceivably be earth sand, should I mix about half tan into that or should I just go with fully tan? Thinking I'd like something suggestive of alien landscape as well as fallout desert. Thoughts?
Terminators coming along.
Necromunda coming... Wonder if I should wait on Dark Imperium...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/13 13:40:39
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Martian/desert sand experiment
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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth
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Well I love the red earth, maybe a very fine drybrush with the tan to make it pop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/13 13:43:14
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Martian/desert sand experiment
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I like the effect you got with the snow. I like the idea of more of a pink color for alien landscape, but that might be from the book Titanicus where they talk about the pink sand.
Necromunda announcement this morning was a nice surprise to wake up too. Plastic multiparty gangers  . Just decided not to buy the dark age figures or back green horde. GW just learned how to get my money.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/13 15:00:30
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Martian/desert sand experiment
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I do like the red too hmm. I guess it can be some kind of wild Wasteland explanation.
Yeah I have admired necro from afar. SWA wasn't doing it for me, but maybe nu-necro. Would love an Inquisitor faction though that's a bit of a stretch lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/13 19:22:57
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Dark Angel (successor) characters WIP
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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WIP Not-Azreal and a techmarine on a bike. Techmarine needs to have some mods to the servo-thingy because he was *going* to be a servoharness dude, and those are expensive now so we're just going with one servo arm, storm bolter, and bike. I think he's less than 100 points, preeeety sturdy, and may make a fine addition to an Azreal Parking lot set up. Fistivius Fistigar has become Not-Azreal. Though the original parts exist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/14 01:16:10
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Dark Angel (successor) characters WIP
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Terminator squad Rubiel reporting in. Photo of both squads so you can tell there are actually two separate entities
I'm done for awhile. I like the DV terminators but they're festooned with detail and i may burn out on another batch haha.
I've got six scouts in the tray now, they should be much simpler and I reckon they'll take quite a bit less time overall. Doing half the melee scouts and the odd-man heavy bolter scout. 3 original metal, 3 cadianlegs scouts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/14 01:31:22
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Dark Angel (successor) characters WIP
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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New terminators look great  , take a break if they are wearing you out, you don't need to get burned out.
Tech marines can have mechandrites made out of guitar string to count as servo arms.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/14 02:03:12
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Dark Angel (successor) characters WIP
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That's what he has  . I just put some plastic tube over them in sections. I need to adjust them so they can be driving the bike though haha.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/14 05:55:14
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Dark Angel (successor) characters WIP
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Nice job on the terminators
Really digging the Scout conversions too.
EDC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/16 04:08:14
Subject: Re:Grimdork Hobby Time! Dark Angel (successor) characters WIP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Cool paint scheme on those Terminators!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/16 10:47:01
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Dark Angel (successor) characters WIP
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Looking fantastic all round bud, think you are upping your game here. That tentacle tube idea is stolen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/16 13:59:07
Subject: Grimdork Hobby Time! Dark Angel (successor) characters WIP
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Thanks folks
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