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Nuremberg

Interesting mix of marines! I much prefer the proper assault termies to the new termie replacement (Centurians?).

   
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?





Affton, MO. USA

Well war hammer community just said that pre-order this Saturday you can get the characters from Indomitus separately... we’ll the sprues separately, so if your wanting more of the characters this might be the way. Also kill team New starterariah Nexus, which I’m still thinking about. I have not jumped into kill team, but it has more marines and Necrons at the price that would most likely be the same as buying individually, and you get rules, terrain and stuff with it.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

TLDR: it's cool that they're putting those boxes out, I have a feeling they will be expensive though. The following word garbage is mostly a soundboard of me trying to decide between death watch and Black Templars, and the somewhat separate question of if I can/should justify a full indomitis instead of just the necron half.

Honestly, the characters aren't really what I'm worried about. in the cases of either faction they would mostly be providing conversion fodder, their value is mostly extra added on to the troops. The necron half is pretty much everything I don't want except for the crypto thralls. The space Marine half isn't bad because it has the eradicators and blade guard as well as some of the characters, but I can't see them letting it go for less than $120. So you'd probably be paying full price for the two popular units and then getting "free" characters.

I'm pretty much convinced to spend around 85-90 to eBay and indomitus necrons. Where I am getting stuck is whether or not I want to switch that to a full set for the Marines. I am pretty committed to getting the bike for my chaplain, which would cost $20 to $30 for one or three outriders. This would also allow me to potentially use the outriders in deathwing as part of the primaris KT along with some intercessors for an oversized squad of them with objective secured.

I kind of want a second batch of eradicators because, again, death watch can take five and a unit with heavy intercessors for interesting shenanigans... And it's not like I want to buy them later for 50-60 for The full unit box. Right now I think you can get them between 30 and 40 for the squad on eBay. All of the characters and the assault intercessors are kind of extra, so looking at it critically I had to be paying 30 to $40 for 10 Marines, 5 heroes, and the rule book, none of which I really need but also which seems like a pretty decent deal for that 40 or so. The judiciar converts into a fantastic emperor's champion but I've also seen a really neat apothecary made out of him. Ancient could probably work as an apothecary or possibly a librarian with some choice bits. The Captain and lieutenant become a little sidelined you definitely I don't need two of either and if you already have six blade guard converting the lieutenants into more is less tempting.

My main issues right now are that I really want to run black templars to take the blade guard into combat on first turn with the impulsor and their shenanigans, but that I think I like death watch for every other reason. Black Templars have a dope aesthetic but honestly I could include several of them in the death watch and then get to do several other dope aesthetics. The death watch would better use all of my old space Marine bits and with at least some bonuses to shooting probably take better advantage of my drop pods and such. Aside from looking meat and being quirky, the only best thing out of the Templars is that devout push strategy, I'm even considering souping a small detachment of Templars with a larger detachment of death watch but that might be needlessly complicated.

The other thing I'm really looking at is the Christmas space marine box which is generally regarded as a poor choice, however that is basic brain thinking. Galaxy brain thinking has me acquiring that box and the full kit of eliminators and using the kits impressive nine guns and the ridiculous flexibility of spectros kill teams to field two units of four snipers with infiltrator comms (unlimited aura pickup range) bais ing all of the phobos space Marine bodies to maximum advantage. I think I could even make a phobos librarian and lieutenant before running out of parts. Of course then I have the tank for my blade guard, it would just be a sore point if they weren't using it as black templars for the first turn shenanigans, and then I get the sneaky captain and the warsuit which is intriguing.

Of course Deathwatch could get the blade guard into combat on turn one too, you have a somewhat unreliable charge distance to cope with but they have a teleport relic. But that would leave the tank out in the cold.

As with most things, this is just a jumbled mess of a lot of almost great things where nothing is great enough to be the obvious choice. And whether to get the second half of indomitus it's kind of a separate issue from which chapter to choose. I think death watch would appreciate having the eradicators and potentially the blade guard more than the Templars but they have less use of the assault intercessors and probably the characters. And I mustn't forget the extra book could probably be sold for 30 something dollars, but I don't really know anyone that I might be playing with in town who would need one and I kind of hate selling things on the internet.



 
   
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Affton, MO. USA

I’m glad for your wall of text , as I am having similar thoughts.

I figured the Indomitus box would bulk out my force more, but really only the Necron side is calling me...and another Judicator. Then again I picked up 2 Elite editions, so I have 9 bikes already and unless I decide to go Ravenwing or White scars I don’t think I’ll need more. I’ve got 20 assault intercessors right now and I am tempted to try out some other color schemes on a couple of them, possibly making a chapter of my own so I can play whatever army I want instead of being locked into an Ultramarine founding (Scythes of the Emperor).

My local shop has a consignment wall, so I could unload the main rulebook for more credit, so Indomitus isn’t as bad of a deal for me, might net me $30-40.

If you went deathwatch at least there are the upgrade packs for the shoulder pads and stuff. I like the models in the DW combat patrol, but thought of all black and silver just makes me cry.

I think I’m sticking hard to the Necrons for now myself, especially since I am enjoying the colors I have going.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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Illinois

As for th "kill team" box... I kind of hate it. As useful as many of the components would be. For 160, it's not a big haul of models. The Captain is kinda meh. The chrono is kinda necessary. The hea y intercessors seem really neat in and out of KT, just 5 flayed ones seems bleh. And then you're paying for the KT stuff and letting it rot, or buying it for the KT stuff with a massive tax. Meh. May be voting against this one with my wallet idk. Tho deathwatch would kinda love the heavies to go with eradicators (but that them pushes me to try and get more...oof).


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Necron stuff is great pushes the silver tide and scarabs to the limit, gets you a full squad of scorpies, another deadly duo of murder buckets, and lots of conversion fodder with the characters.

Im hoping black templar contrast would help... significantly...or I'd be in for it!

I can actually get a Start Collecting Deathwatch (if it didn't get got in the last 2-3 weeks) which is 10 super customisable d00ds, vendread, and mostly lackluster character who's easy to convert. Plus a dozen shoulders. I think I'd bluestuff the shoulders...maybe make molds of them and then add very thin greenstuff to existing shoulders before smooshing them into the mold. If it works, I think it would be quite a bit more efficient than shaving down existing shoulder pads and trying to create entirely new ones out of green stuff and much more cost effective than buying the pads separately.

The combat patrol seems nice but anytime you read about regular intercessors it's people saying how you're taking them as a tax and they're super good on their own, so then all you are getting are the aggressors a pointless lieutenant and the apothecary who's actually a pretty good pick up. The aggressors do look pretty awesome, and I think especially if you get the heavy intercessors they can mix and match for shenanigans, but I think I much more interested in dropping 60 more dollars to get the Christmas bundle for 20 Phobos guys plus the captain and two vehicles and then getting the eliminators like I outlined above and having two crazy sniper teams and two decent forward units.

I think I would then combine that with whatever shenanigans were necessary to get the blade guard in the enemy's face turn one, and if not them some kind of bikes or vanguard vets, along with the drop pods. I'd have something in my deployment zone but most of my stuff would be spread out and in my opponent's face.

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Affton, MO. USA

You could always do Black Templars and add in a few Deathwatch Veterans. Guys who are Templar at the core, and are back to rejoin their legion before going out again with their chums from the other chapters.

LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13

I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 
   
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Illinois

Its too late. I have the Deathwatch codex, I redeemed the code. I bought the interdiction force and eliminators and indomitus..... Still gotta get to that one little shop for the start collection deathwatch. Foolish to leave the OOP lynchpin box for last... but the kids started "mostly full time school" this week and my wife worked over the weekend. I'll drag her and baby out tomorrow or the whole gang if it waits for the weekend. Then no more purchases beyond glue, paint, and magnets if I run out.

I'll probably do several of my DW as templars, I like their visual aesthetic and I feel like their tabards can be carried over into the watch.

Talking about magnets... honestly IDK. With deathwatch it kind of makes the most sense to magnetize since the core of the FB part of the army is SOOO damn versatile and a dizzying array of kit.... But I also have so many FB marines I could probably full-glue the options and never change them. I mean, I have 20 sitting around painted that don't need to stay those colors. I'll have the 10 proper deathwatch marines from the SC: DW as long as it's not gone (oh how that will monkey wrench my plans!). I've lost some over the years but I still have... upwards of 20 robed dark angel bodies...10-20 more regular marines though some are the less dynamic push-fits. IDK, I'll probably still magnetize most of the marines cause it's so easy.

Necrons though... I'm seriously considering an experiment. I was gonna take my 5 lychguard/praetorians and try to build all 4 loadouts between the two datasheets. But... What I'm thinking now is to use some of my extra indomitus warriors (I think 40 is "enough", I have immortals too and will usually be playing the obsec dynasty so troops aren't as important to me) to permanently build 5 praetorians with skinny legs. If I can get the torso to work right.

They're stingier with necron arms that marine ones, you get like two sets of arms to cover the four loadouts. Fortunately, rods are considered best for praetorians and sword+shield is the go-to for lychguard. There's a better argument for scythes than for the particle beam/ void blade, but I'm more likely to only have 5 for some time and the shields make them better at guarding.




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I've definitely seen enough to convince me of the spare warriors as praetorians. I shall revel in the diversity, and enjoy having some spare bits. There's a fair bit you can do with the extra guns and I've not had any in consideration till now.

The only thing that kinda sucks is that the staves make excellent conversion fodder for DIY Crypteks. I like the psychomancer but won't be buying one, but he'd be so easy with a warrior torso, different head, spare staff, and some wires/greenstuff. But no spare staves. Oof.


Boy... all of this said and we're staring down the barrel of Pariah Nexus preorders super soon. ACK.

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Made in us
Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

Aww yiss, my previously scouted Start Collecting: Deathwatch was right where I left it.

They had a lot of out of print stuff... Indomitus, the incubi/banshee set, a couple of the killteam+scenery boxes, several of the 100-140 dollar sets like the marine one with vanguard+stern guard+captain+speeder, the tau stealth cadre or whatever with the Pathfinders, stealth suits and piranha. Several start collecting though not all are out of print yet.

I'll be sure to not return for a good long while!

 
   
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber






Illinois

After almost two hundred pages, this venerable old beast could use a break.

I think I'll still update here once in a while for random things that don't fit in the other blog.. but right now I'm planning on moving my scenery and 40k work here.

Please feel free to visit me there and enjoy what should hopefully be more regular updates

 
   
 
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