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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 03:27:25
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2020411359_mastrohearingxml.html
A French court ruled this week that former Seattle real-estate magnate Michael R. Mastro and his wife, Linda, can’t be extradited to the U.S. unless American authorities agree they won’t be imprisoned, the Mastros’ French lawyer said Friday.
The court cited concerns about the Mastros’ health in its ruling, Thomas Terrier said in a statement.
The Mastros have been
indicted by a federal grand jury in Seattle on 43 counts of bankruptcy fraud and money laundering. They were arrested in France last October, 16 months after fleeing the U.S.
The three judges of the Court of Appeal in Chambery, France, ruled that the Mastros can’t be extradited unless “the U.S. legal authorities first provide the court with guarantees that neither of the Mastros will have to face any other sanction than electronic surveillance at a shared location in the U.S.,” Terrier’s statement said.
The court set a three-month deadline for receiving such assurances.
In their 19-page ruling, the judges concluded that the offenses with which the Mastros have been charged are subject to extradition under French law.
But the extradition treaty between France and the U.S. allows one country to deny extradition to the other “when surrender of the person might entail exceptionally serious consequences related to age or health.”
Lengthy incarceration of the Mastros likely would have such consequences, the French court said.
The ruling mentions Michael Mastro’s age — 87 — and a serious head injury he suffered in a fall in Palm Desert, Calif., two years ago.
It also contains several references to the “psychological fragility” of Linda Mastro, 63, and reveals she attempted suicide shortly after the couple’s arrest last fall.
Emily Langlie, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Seattle, said prosecutors still are translating and studying the ruling, and would have no comment for now.
James Frush, Michael Mastro’s Seattle attorney, said the French ruling means that before extradition, both prosecutors and U.S. District Judge John Coughenour, who has been assigned the case, would need to agree that the Mastros will not be jailed.
Frush said he’s been talking to prosecutors for months about a plea agreement that would bring the Mastros back but preclude imprisonment, and is gratified the French judges apparently agreed.
Douglas McNabb, a Washington, D.C., lawyer and extradition specialist, said he doubts federal officials would agree to not incarcerate the Mastros.
If the Department of Justice can appeal the French court’s ruling, it most likely will, he said.
If appeal isn’t an option, McNabb said, U.S. officials will ask Interpol, the international police organization, to issue a new “red notice” for the Mastros — the equivalent of an international arrest warrant.
“Then the U.S. will hope that at some stage these people decide the United States doesn’t care about them any more and travel to another country” where extradition might be easier, the attorney said.
McNabb said he isn’t surprised by the French court’s ruling.
Courts in European Union nations are much more likely than U.S. courts to deny extradition if there are concerns about its impact on the subject’s physical or mental health, he said.
They consider it a human-rights issue, McNabb said.
Michael Mastro was a prolific real-estate developer and lender for 40 years until the financial crisis undermined his empire and pushed him into bankruptcy in 2009.
His debts to unsecured creditors have been estimated at $250 million.
He and his wife disappeared in June 2011 after failing to comply with a bankruptcy judge’s order that they turn over two giant diamond rings valued at $1.4 million.
The rings were recovered when the Mastros were apprehended last fall in a village near Lake Annecy in the French Alps, and now are in the custody of the FBI in Seattle.
The Mastros spent seven weeks in a French jail before a court released them under electronic surveillance pending extradition proceedings.
The indictment charges the Mastros executed a series of illegal maneuvers designed to put assets, including the rings, out of reach of creditors.
James Rigby, the court-appointed trustee in Michael Mastro’s long-running bankruptcy proceeding, said he hadn’t seen the French court’s ruling and couldn’t confirm Terrier’s account of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 05:51:52
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Hallowed Canoness
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Hogwash. But what can you expect from the french eh?
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 06:30:08
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Fixture of Dakka
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They have a soft spot for movie making pedophiles, also.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 08:16:57
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Can the French courts override terms of extradition treaties?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 08:32:53
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Oberstleutnant
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Breotan wrote:Can the French courts override terms of extradition treaties?
Nothing is being over ridden, there is a clause in the extradition treaty which allows France, and presumably the US, the deny extradition on the grounds of extreme ill health. The French judges obviously think that an 87 year old with brain damage cfits the criteria.
This looks like a non story to me.
Besdies its not as if the US is keen to extradite people.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 08:49:50
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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Brilliant analysis, really. Automatically Appended Next Post: Relapse wrote:
They have a soft spot for movie making pedophiles, also.
That's the U.S. attorney's fault for not planning properly the legal actions. Had Polanski not been sentenced in absentia, legal pursuit would have been possible in France for crimes committed elsewhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 08:52:54
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Breotan wrote:Can the French courts override terms of extradition treaties?
I suppose the Americans could send in a snatch team, fly them back to the USA via various gak holes where they could be "questioned" then hole them up in a super-secure prison without trial for years on end...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 08:53:34
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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Breotan wrote:Can the French courts override terms of extradition treaties?
Very few countries actually allow for extradition of their own citizens. Automatically Appended Next Post: SilverMK2 wrote: Breotan wrote:Can the French courts override terms of extradition treaties?
I suppose the Americans could send in a snatch team, fly them back to the USA via various gak holes where they could be "questioned" then hole them up in a super-secure prison without trial for years on end...
This is real life, not a James Bond movie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 09:05:54
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Indeed. for the remaining 517 men in 2005 and "established that over 80% of the prisoners were captured not by Americans on the battlefield but by Pakistanis and Afghans, often in exchange for bounty payments." and... In January 2005, Swiss senator Dick Marty, representative at the Council of Europe in charge of the European investigations, concluded that 100 people had been kidnapped by the CIA in Europe—thus qualifying as ghost detainees—and then rendered to a country where they may have been tortured.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 09:46:04
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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Well yes, of course that happens. But do you really see state-sponsored kidnapping of an 87 years old man and his wife happening for causes of fraud? Followed by no sentencing in court?
It would be even more hilarious if they did follow with an actual suit. You'd never get a conviction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/24 10:14:32
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Kovnik Obama wrote:Well yes, of course that happens. But do you really see state-sponsored kidnapping of an 87 years old man and his wife happening for causes of fraud? Followed by no sentencing in court?
It would be even more hilarious if they did follow with an actual suit. You'd never get a conviction.
It would be entertaining.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 3013/02/24 21:22:05
Subject: French court: Mastros can’t be extradited if there’s jail ahead in U.S.
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Bounty Hunters.
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