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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 02:32:14
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Fixture of Dakka
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They are Gremlins. Tells you right there in the picture.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 02:32:34
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 03:50:38
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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Liking the croaks, not liking the price, for how many unique sculpts?
Sometimes PP leave me scratching my head. For their size and amount, why not just do them in plastic?
Come to think of it though, I don't think PP have ever done any real little stuff in plastic. Have they? Like pygs or whelps or anything (other than those hanging off of other larger models)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 04:16:28
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Madrak Ironhide
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They've done single wound small based infantry as plastic like
Temple Flameguard, Knights Exemplar, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 04:26:29
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Serious Squig Herder
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highlord tamburlaine wrote:Liking the croaks, not liking the price, for how many unique sculpts?
Sometimes PP leave me scratching my head. For their size and amount, why not just do them in plastic?
Come to think of it though, I don't think PP have ever done any real little stuff in plastic. Have they?
Croaks are human-sized more or less. I can see making whelps or even gobbers in metal still, sorta.
But this makes them pricey and yucky metal. It's 2015 - I don't want anything to do with a big box of metal units anymore. I really like them otherwise - but metal just kills my interest. And I hate seeing new metal units made because they're never going to be plastic now. (well maybe, in 2525 - if man is still alive).
I don't expect them in HIPS - but PP should be making these things in plastic of some sort.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 04:33:29
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Experienced Saurus Scar-Veteran
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I agree. Not fond of metal units. Especially in large numbers. I consider a unit of more than 3 too large to bother with in metal. Which is why I have exactly one Pyg painted from every unit I've got.
Characters in metal though? Sure. Love 'em. No problem. Really have come full circle in regards to metal figures when it comes to heroes and individuals.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 07:15:13
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Really funny how about 3 pages back we had people moaning about their plastic, and now we have people moaning about the metal. Just goes to show you can't please everyone. I'd rather units of 10 were in metal, took me long enough to clean my 5 plastic gators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 08:45:05
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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malfred wrote:They've done single wound small based infantry as plastic like
Temple Flameguard, Knights Exemplar, etc.
So far Bane Thralls are their only plastic small based unit that's not using the same body for two different kits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 12:50:55
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Anyone got a bead on Anson Dursts rules? Seems like he will fit in with my Paladins.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 14:03:23
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This isn't 100% in PPs court, but does anyone know when warmachine tactics will be released as a 1.0? I don't like playing games while they're in early access/beta.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 14:29:50
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Henshini wrote:This isn't 100% in PPs court, but does anyone know when warmachine tactics will be released as a 1.0? I don't like playing games while they're in early access/beta.
Release Date: 20 Nov, 2014
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 14:29:51
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Hallowed Canoness
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Alex C wrote:They are Gremlins. Tells you right there in the picture.
Nah, they are a gremlin swarm ! Surely that must imply a ton of special rules, when you have multiple models on the same base, no? Can it be trampled through? Thrown?
And beside, what are gremlins in Warmachine? They seem like they are small creature that loves to make Warjack malfunction, but does they really do that? How does it work?
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Mischievous and malicious in the extreme, gremlins delight in rooting around in mechanikal constructs with the intent of causing as much damage as possible for their own amusement. These mysterious grymkin are attracted to the hiss and clank of warjacks on the battlefield and have been known to bring mechanized weaponry grinding to a halt at the most inopportune times.
Seems like fun!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 14:37:57
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Lone of their special rules (mischief) was posted a few pages back iirc.
I'm guessing incorporeal and either stealth or invisible (much like they have in the rpg) and some variation of ancient shroud, gotta be a reason there are five of them on the base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 17:14:36
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Combat Jumping Tiger Soldier
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Hey look Knarloc Riders  Well at least counts as them since Forgeworld discontinued their line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 17:34:55
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Cool stuff, not a fan of the paint job, but the concept is a lot of fun. Really hoping it works for mercs (or even better, the magnus lists, what with the desert scout aesthetic).
If not, my trolls or skorne might still get a thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 17:50:20
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how I can make that a little more swamp-y. Gators with some light cav movement sounds like a win.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 18:02:52
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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Enigma Crisis wrote:
Hey look Knarloc Riders  Well at least counts as them since Forgeworld discontinued their line. 
I took one look and thought "why hallo thar start of my new Necromunda Ash Waste Nomads gang"
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 19:17:59
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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Gotta say, I LOVE this model. And I'm happy to have SOMETHING else for the thornfall that isn't another warlock. But after seeing it's stats, and points, and whatnot, I have to ask, is it even worth using? At half it's points cost it doesn't seem all that great, just a decent sniper. But the large base, and a large point cost ( and $ cost I'm sure as well), make me wonder what exactly it's doing to help anyone, in particular the Thornfall, who are falling behind the Blackwater in terms of beasts, units, and solos, book after book. What's it's deal?
All these new models look great BTW! Kudos to PP for this stuff!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 20:03:56
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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skullking wrote:
Gotta say, I LOVE this model. And I'm happy to have SOMETHING else for the thornfall that isn't another warlock. But after seeing it's stats, and points, and whatnot, I have to ask, is it even worth using? At half it's points cost it doesn't seem all that great, just a decent sniper. But the large base, and a large point cost ( and $ cost I'm sure as well), make me wonder what exactly it's doing to help anyone, in particular the Thornfall, who are falling behind the Blackwater in terms of beasts, units, and solos, book after book. What's it's deal?
All these new models look great BTW! Kudos to PP for this stuff!
My initial impression of this solo was to tag team it is Slaughterhousers (in Farrow). Snipe a multi wound model with these guys and send in the Slaughterhousers with 4D6 damage each due to finisher.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 20:13:55
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Serious Squig Herder
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Henshini wrote:This isn't 100% in PPs court, but does anyone know when warmachine tactics will be released as a 1.0? I don't like playing games while they're in early access/beta.
It's been "launched" for some time now. But I'd recommend skipping or holding off for a while longer. The game needs a lot of work still IMO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 21:41:34
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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skullking wrote:
Gotta say, I LOVE this model. And I'm happy to have SOMETHING else for the thornfall that isn't another warlock. But after seeing it's stats, and points, and whatnot, I have to ask, is it even worth using? At half it's points cost it doesn't seem all that great, just a decent sniper. But the large base, and a large point cost ( and $ cost I'm sure as well), make me wonder what exactly it's doing to help anyone, in particular the Thornfall, who are falling behind the Blackwater in terms of beasts, units, and solos, book after book. What's it's deal?
All these new models look great BTW! Kudos to PP for this stuff!
You are missing the combination of Armor Piercing and Sniper, specifically the fact you get to choose the column. Plus its Light cav so its super mobile.
2 rounds of shooting can take out an aspect on most standard beasts without tons of armor buffs, and on jacks they can focus down one particular system like the most important arm.
So it can move its normal movement, shoot, and then light cav backwards. And unlike most sniper solos it won't be terribly vulnerable to drifting blasts, its pretty durable against that.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 21:50:18
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: Upcoming release models, Pg 58
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Oh, didn't realize its stats were out... well, AP is always nice from the overview. Eh, possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 21:50:46
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: Upcoming release models, Pg 58
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Its rules came out last book. They're on Warroom.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 22:21:09
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: Upcoming release models, Pg 58
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Cosmic Joe
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Convergence all in one army box confirmed.
Rather surprising since they said CoC wouldn't be getting one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 22:59:28
Subject: PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: Upcoming release models, Pg 58
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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MWHistorian wrote:Convergence all in one army box confirmed.
Rather surprising since they said CoC wouldn't be getting one.
Guessing the others sold so well they changed their minds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 23:01:44
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: New Gargantuans anounced at SmogCon! Pg 51
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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Grimtuff wrote:
My initial impression of this solo was to tag team it is Slaughterhousers (in Farrow). Snipe a multi wound model with these guys and send in the Slaughterhousers with 4D6 damage each due to finisher.
Grey Templar wrote:
You are missing the combination of Armor Piercing and Sniper, specifically the fact you get to choose the column. Plus its Light cav so its super mobile.
2 rounds of shooting can take out an aspect on most standard beasts without tons of armor buffs, and on jacks they can focus down one particular system like the most important arm.
So it can move its normal movement, shoot, and then light cav backwards. And unlike most sniper solos it won't be terribly vulnerable to drifting blasts, its pretty durable against that.
Ahh... I knew there was something I was missing there. That all makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 23:07:52
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: Upcoming release models, Pg 58
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Eh, yeah, the 2e fluff kinda' pisses me off so I stopped buying the books and I think their apps are overpriced since I'd get the cards anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 23:13:06
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: Upcoming release models, Pg 58
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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spiralingcadaver wrote:Eh, yeah, the 2e fluff kinda' pisses me off so I stopped buying the books and I think their apps are overpriced since I'd get the cards anyway.
I think the app is actually quite cheap. When you purchase a faction deck you get all of the following,
1) Every Mk2 card that will ever exist for that faction, and you get the cards day of release long before the model is actually out.
2) You get an army builder and damage tracker built in.
3) Rules reference which all updates to reflect Errata as they are released.
All for only $8 per faction.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 23:15:23
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: Upcoming release models, Pg 58
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Grey Templar wrote: spiralingcadaver wrote:Eh, yeah, the 2e fluff kinda' pisses me off so I stopped buying the books and I think their apps are overpriced since I'd get the cards anyway.
I think the app is actually quite cheap. When you purchase a faction deck you get all of the following,
1) Every Mk2 card that will ever exist for that faction, and you get the cards day of release long before the model is actually out.
2) You get an army builder and damage tracker built in.
3) Rules reference which all updates to reflect Errata as they are released.
All for only $8 per faction.
And cheaper if you buy the bundles of factions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/10 23:24:40
Subject: Re:PP: Warmachine/Hordes New Releases: Upcoming release models, Pg 58
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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The app does of course have some issues. It has bad programming and can crash(its getting better though) if your device falls asleep, and it eats battery like crazy.
But overall its very fairly priced. Don't look at it like an app, look at it like a digital army book. Compare it to buying the Faction book or a 40k Codex. Sure, the rules come with each model, but what if you want to see the rules without buying the model? You'd have to either buy a bunch of $30-40 books, or an $8 app which gets you every model's rules, past, present, and future.
The only reason to buy the books is for fluff.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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