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One may not, But when you see a couple dozen of them, you start to see that they are atleast present and affect you. You try having your Proff try to make you feel horrible just because of what is inbetween your legs.
And I didnt once insult you personally, but im damn near close.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
One may not, But when you see a couple dozen of them, you start to see that they are atleast present and affect you. You try having your Proff try to make you feel horrible just because of what is inbetween your legs.
And I didnt once insult you personally, but im damn near close.

And I've received, consistently over the more than a decade I've been on the internet, various rape and death (and "I hope you get raped to death", for the extra bonus points) threats from men who disagreed with my views. And my views are moderate and mild compared to many. Actually it's kind of gotten worse in the last few years, now that I think of it. Should I start labeling men violent, idiotic psychopaths who are little more than rapists waiting to happen, who should all be locked up for the good of society?

How many of those men did that in a class room or position of power? Or directly in your face? Im betting very very little.

I don't think any of this is really conducive to quality discussion.

Isnt that how most romantic comedies start?

 Melissia wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
One may not, But when you see a couple dozen of them, you start to see that they are atleast present and affect you. You try having your Proff try to make you feel horrible just because of what is inbetween your legs.
And I didnt once insult you personally, but im damn near close.

And I've received, consistently over the more than a decade I've been on the internet, various rape and death (and "I hope you get raped to death", for the extra bonus points) threats from men who disagreed with my views. And my views are moderate and mild compared to many. Actually it's kind of gotten worse in the last few years, now that I think of it. Should I start labeling men violent, idiotic psychopaths who are little more than rapists waiting to happen, who should all be locked up for the good of society?

Mel, there are all kinds of donkey-caves on the internet. I myself am constantly getting told to go kill myself and rip off my balls before doing so (That was an awkward game, let me tell you...)


No one is saying women, or feminists, are bad. What myself, and many others don't like, is how whenever we hear about the Movement, it's usually the Feminazi's we hear about. It's kinda like religion with the Taliban/Westborrow. Religion isn't bad, but how many times did we all hear that the crazy Westborrows' were pickitting some "God forsaken homo *Insert three letter word here*. Makes ALL us religious people look bad.

What we need for Feminists to do is do something so sincere and awesome and then YOUTUBE THAT GAK and make it VIRAL. As it is right now, alot of Feminazi's get the publicity that you, the feminists need. What that is, I have no idea

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
How many of those men did that in a class room or position of power? Or directly in your face? Im betting very very little.

Don't play that card if you're arguing the dude's side on this one >.< That is a losing hand for sure.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
How many of those men did that in a class room or position of power?

That is not a subject which I am comfortable talking about using specific examples.

Suffice it to say, more than one.

Ooh, Sorry.

Called it.

Looks like we both have bad experiances.

I have a lot of bad experiences with misogynistic men. But I refuse to become a man-hater because I don't want those experiences to control my life. That said, I have a lot of empathy towards feminists who do teeter towards that edge. We are an oppressed, often victimized and marginalized group even in modern times.

 Melissia wrote:
I have a lot of bad experiences with misogynistic men. But I refuse to become a man-hater because I don't want those experiences to control my life. But I have a lot of empathy towards feminists who do teeter towards that edge.

I would like to start this post with saying I'm very sorry for both of you, Mel and Hotsauceman. Imagination runs wild, and it can't have been good. I personally, with the exception of people out of power/my ex-girlfriend have never experianced anything of the sort.


But I do think, at least, that both of you can see where the other is coming from, with just a little empathy. Both sides, hell all sides have our bad eggs.





I mean, you know how much fun it is being compared to people like Mr. Westborrow because I'm not catholic but still consider myself religious? I literally have an entire town that will not talk to me because I don't share their views and therefore am satanic.

For me I guess the big difference is EVERY female I know has a story about a man treating her badly in some form or fashion purely for being female, but not every male can say the same. Anecdotal and worthless technically, but I wouldn't be surprised if the same proved true for most Americans.

Anyway, the video this thread is about has nothing to do with feminazis.

I agree, It always annoys me because it affects men aswell. Im under the opinion that part of the reason nerdy hobbies are shunned is because of gender bias. For example, men should be strong, tough and love cars(you would be surprised how many times i get made fun of by my cousins because i dont know how to change the oil in a car.
I still like the feminist movement in concept, Equal opportunity. But what i don't like is the people i have meet. But then again i dont like much of the liberal movement where i am either, dispite being a liberal, so maybe its just the Know-it-all college kids im annoyed from .
But let me give you an example, in a class I was in we watched "16 and pregnant" and the teacher applauded the boy getting hit, when all he wanted was to see his son(or Daughter) he wanted to be in his life. I mean, What if it was reversed.

 Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
For me I guess the big difference is EVERY female I know has a story about a man treating her badly in some form or fashion purely for being female, but not every male can say the same. Anecdotal and worthless technically, but I wouldn't be surprised if the same proved true for most Americans.

Every feminist blogger, no matter how mild their views, has the same exact stories as well.

I direct you here for an example and discussion:

Warning, foul language ahead. Do not click this if you cannot read NSFW material.

 Melissia wrote:

 Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
For me I guess the big difference is EVERY female I know has a story about a man treating her badly in some form or fashion purely for being female, but not every male can say the same. Anecdotal and worthless technically, but I wouldn't be surprised if the same proved true for most Americans.

Every feminist blogger, no matter how mild their views, has the same exact stories as well.

I direct you here for an example and discussion:

Warning, foul language ahead. Do not click this if you cannot read NSFW material.

Well, that was rage inducing. I'm sure they get flake for "It's the internet, nothing you can do about it", but you can't tell me at least ONE blogger hasn't gone to the police with the evidence. Honestly, why didn't she give the police the info of the person who threatened her from his work? That right there is an actual threat, and could have been punished by law as assault if I remember right (Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Assault threatening someone, while Battery is actually doing the physical harm?)

That's ridiculous.

She did, she said she forwarded the really threatening ones to the police, but never actually expected (or saw) any police action.

The thing is, these men do these sorts of things specifically to intimidate women in to silence.

 Melissia wrote:
She did, she said she forwarded the really threatening ones to the police, but never actually expected (or saw) any police action.

The thing is, these men do these sorts of things specifically to intimidate women in to silence.

But still, posting threats like that along with her personal information goes above and beyond any sort of "just internet" threat level. They should have done something about it... They should DO something about it.

Mind you, what can we expect when it takes less time for pizza to get to your house than the police.....



Just gonna post this here. No idea who the guy is, but thought it might be a tiny bit relevant to the topic in general:

 Slarg232 wrote:
But still, posting threats like that along with her personal information goes above and beyond any sort of "just internet" threat level. They should have done something about it... They should DO something about it.

They should, yes. I'm more concerned with the ubiquity of the threats myself.

It's basically a terror campaign by a very small group of highly motivated men.

To be 100% fair, how do we know that most of these people aren't some backwater neanderthal's in a third world country that still beleives that women are property?

Yes, the dude who was in the business and threatened her was definately american, so we cannot rule out it happening here. Having said that, the Internet comes from everywhere.

 Slarg232 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
She did, she said she forwarded the really threatening ones to the police, but never actually expected (or saw) any police action.

The thing is, these men do these sorts of things specifically to intimidate women in to silence.

But still, posting threats like that along with her personal information goes above and beyond any sort of "just internet" threat level. They should have done something about it... They should DO something about it.

Mind you, what can we expect when it takes less time for pizza to get to your house than the police.....

Ill never forget when a drunk women was threatening to kill me, it took 45 min for the police to get to my house.
But i think bloggers of many colors get death threats. Anything controverisal gets them.
I think STFUparents recieved death threats from parents.

 Slarg232 wrote:
To be 100% fair, how do we know that most of these people aren't some backwater neanderthal's in a third world country that still beleives that women are property?

Yes, the dude who was in the business and threatened her was definately american, so we cannot rule out it happening here. Having said that, the Internet comes from everywhere.

I don't. But given my experience here in Texas, I have absolutely no hesitation believing that there is a small but highly motivated subculture of American men who do these sorts of things.

Well this thread got really fun, really fast.


I was sexually harassed at work once by a much older lady (not remotely a milf). She got a slap on the wrist and I quit the job because it was too awkward to work there anymore. Had the roles been reversed it would've been a payday.


You're kidding yourself if you don't think women can get away with a lot of crap, but it cuts both ways. Still, for there to be actual equality, all double standards need to be removed. The vocal feminists don't seem to be interested in that at all. I can understand that a bit, since they are more interested in uplifting their gender. What I can't understand is people tolerating self admitted misandrists because men are in a position of power and women are simply 'rising up.'

STFU parents?

It is a blog about oversharing parents. Like parenting posting pics of childrens Diapers on Facebook.

 Amaya wrote:
You're kidding yourself if you don't think women can get away with a lot of crap, but it cuts both ways. Still, for there to be actual equality, all double standards need to be removed. The vocal feminists don't seem to be interested in that at all. I can understand that a bit, since they are more interested in uplifting their gender.

Can you give specific examples? In my experience of femimism, and as it was already described by multiple posters earlier in the thread, in fact most feminists do talk about removing double standards, and about equality as something which benefits men as well as women, and society in general. When you say that 'the vocal feminists" are not interested in removing double standards, only in advancing their own gender, you're leveling a blanket accusation at every feminist who speaks publicly. That's pretty inflammatory, and I have to say IME highly inaccurate. So again, who are you specifically talking about?


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 Slarg232 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 Slarg232 wrote:
So tell me how you are going to get ANYTHING done if your so divided?

We HAVE gotten things done. Or perhaps you don't know the history of the womens' rights movement?

And do you know how much more you could get done if you actually got together and figured things out amongst yourselves? It's taken, what, 50 years for the first female vice president? Coulda done that alot sooner if there weren't so many feminazis...

Mind you, that might be near impossible with how indesicive most women are....

Slarg, get out of the pool. You're not welcome in the thread if you can't be polite and respectful.

 Mannahnin wrote:

 Amaya wrote:
You're kidding yourself if you don't think women can get away with a lot of crap, but it cuts both ways. Still, for there to be actual equality, all double standards need to be removed. The vocal feminists don't seem to be interested in that at all. I can understand that a bit, since they are more interested in uplifting their gender.

Can you give specific examples? In my experience of femimism, and as it was already described by multiple posters earlier in the thread, in fact most feminists do talk about removing double standards, and about equality as something which benefits men as well as women, and society in general. When you say that 'the vocal feminists" are not interested in removing double standards, only in advancing their own gender, you're leveling a blanket accusation at every feminist who speaks publicly. That's pretty inflammatory, and I have to say IME highly inaccurate. So again, who are you specifically talking about?

Well, I guess it is pretty inflammatory then, are you going to pitch a fit about it? I guess I can't share an opinion based on my experience if it differs from yours, can I?

 Mannahnin wrote:
Slarg, get out of the pool. You're not welcome in the thread if you can't be polite and respectful.

How was I not polite and respectful? Did I ever once call Mel the word you flagged me for? No, I quite specifically singled her out as one of the GOOD guys.... er... gals.

How am I supposed to know what is polite and respectful if no one actually says "Hey man, stop saying this, please" and instead directly goes to "Daddy" about it? If Mel, Hotsauceman, Cannerous, or anyone had said "Don't use that, please", I would have stopped.

And if I'm getting red flagged for saying "Women are indecisive", how could anyone take that as anything other than a joke? Maybe I should have posted wimminz, or maybe it wasn't 100% clear, which I apologize for, but seriously....

This probably comes across alot harsher than I mean it to, but come on...

It looked pretty bad to me, tbh.