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I just wanted to ask people here for opinion about this:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

In Warrior Brood, we have an Assault Marine who not only has the ability to outright fly with his jump pack, he duels a Harridan bio-titan with a chainsword and wins.


while it does sounds silly why is this not possible?

With little training you can literally learn to slide trough the air with jump pack with regulating it's power outage ( as we have seen in 'Space Marine' ), and I have seen several time Marines literally fly in the fluff with jump packs - their solution was simple, they have just flew horizontally instead of vertically.

So with proper training and skill why wouldn't this be possible?

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Brother Captain Alexander wrote:LOL at Reznov and Lynata...
Can we al ljust get along and say that we are both right and wrong at some points?
This is 40k after all, a universe where everyone has their own PoW so it's kid of pointless to argue with that when everything is correct ( even the one that say that Dorn is not dead by missing ), except for the old fluff that was rewritten by newer one.
Yeah, I'm sorry Reznov - I know I can be quite bull-headed when it comes to certain topics, "40k canon" being one of them. I certainly didn't intend to get on your nerves, and rest assured I don't get any pleasure of dragging out debates like this myself.

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:I just wanted to ask people here for opinion about this: [...]
Hah - I guess we all have our own limits where there's "unlikely but possible" on one side and "silly" on the other, in essence an individual threshold where stuff gets so heroic that we start to groan, roll our eyes and yell "Mary Sue!" Often, it does not even have to be technically impossible, just so very unlikely that we cannot reconcile it with our personal preferences regarding a degree of realism in whatever we're reading or watching at the moment.

In the quoted instance, I'd prefer to delay my own judgment until having read the fight in all its detail. If it is well written, personally I could see it work out. It certainly isn't on the same level of lulziness as a HH novel Primarch lifting a Titan. Of course, it is just as possible that the author of that novel thought "jump pack = jet pack". I have to admit I'm not even sure about this myself - whilst I know that some sources do limit jump pack distance, I have also seen others where they actually do perma-fly. The GW fluff on the subject is, as usual, a bit hazy, but the current Codex does point out that in addition to leaping across the battlefield it also permits the user to "fly short distances". Needless to say, "short distances" is very open to interpretation and could mean anything from a couple dozen meters to several kilometers, all depending on what you compare it to.

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If there's no canon in 40K, then can people still be canonized?

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"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
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Everything. But I'm more likely to actually care about what's in the codices and rulebook than some crappy author's wankish BL novel.

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Corporal_Reznov wrote:
 Furyou Miko wrote:


Surprisingly, this is a fairly accurate take on the Imperium and the Mechanicus' take on the whole matter. Sarcasm ignored, of course.
Ignoring your sarcasm. Things on the ground in 40k itself don't and aren't as the codexes say. I'm sure that this post of mine will be ignored cause all that matters is the holy codex which doesn't portray the people of the Imperium as people and are instead robots.


I wasn't being sarcastic, I was assuming you were being sarcastic when you said;

Corporal_Reznov wrote:

Common sense shouldn't exist cause consistency of the holy codex.


I was saying that as far as the Adeptus Mechanicus is concerned, no, Guardsmen should not be able to maintain their own lasguns, because Guardsmen are not initiated into the holy rites of the machine cult and are going to offend the Omnissiah.

It was more a comment on how the Imperium is set up in-universe than a retort at you. As far as modern Ultramarines who aren't the main character are concerned, the Holy Codex is the be all and end all of common sense.

Edit: And one day, I'll gain the ability to write "es" without automatically appending "e" on the end. >< The number of times I've written Ultramarinese today alone is starting to tick me off.

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Everything and nothing. For example, Grey Knights are incorruptible...but there are Chaos Grey Knights in my Red Corsairs army. Muwhahahahahaha

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 KingmanHighborn wrote:
Everything and nothing. For example, Grey Knights are incorruptible...but there are Chaos Grey Knights in my Red Corsairs army. Muwhahahahahaha

Huh? How is that working?

ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."

Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan


 
   
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The only true canon is the gaxaly map, or the omniscient narration that might exist (Which is in 0 of the books)
Most sources are from unreliable narrators.
So it makes the story of the 40k universe quite confusing.

I think everything is lore but not really at the same time.

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