The New Pope Thread

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**Frazzled**

Peregrine wrote:
Spyral wrote:
i) Condoms are only 85% effective in practice according to the WHO so 3 in 20 times you'd run the risk of getting HIV/AIDS

1) The "in actual use" numbers include "failures" like "we didn't bother using it this time". If you instead look at the numbers for proper use the chances are even lower.

2) An 85% reduction in risk is MUCH better than a 0% reduction in risk, unless of course you're a high-ranking church official. There's really nothing to argue about here, the official church position on birth control encourages the spread of horrible diseases.

ii) Truth is not decided by a majority vote.

You're right. Truth is decided by reality, and reality says the catholic church isn't just wrong on this subject, they're dangerously wrong.

Anyway, the point about a majority of members disagreeing with the official position isn't about truth, it's about relevance. Church leadership can cling to a belief that most people disagree with, but it just means they'll continue to become less and less relevant as people continue to leave the church in large numbers. Which was the original question, whether there's a realistic chance that the next pope will make meaningful reforms instead of just being a weak figurehead for a declining organization.

You know whats awesome? TALKING ABOUT CONDOM USE IN ANOTHER THREAD.

**reds8n**

If you want to post about sex scandals, how much of an agnostic or atheist you are, or other such stuff, please create a new thread. Stay on topic!

please.

**Manchu**

helgrenze wrote:
However, Many European Cardnals see Americans as too liberal and will not even consider one for the position.

I assure you, only the most ultra-conservative could see Dolan as liberal.

**Frazzled**

Manchu wrote:
helgrenze wrote:
However, Many European Cardnals see Americans as too liberal and will not even consider one for the position.
I assure you, only the most ultra-conservative could see Dolan as liberal.

If he becomes pope we could call him the Dolanator!

**Ouze**

sebster wrote:
What do we call the Pope candidates? Popetentials?

"Papabiles"; but I think Popetentials is way catchier.

**Lone Cat**

SNAP saw that all nominated candicates are all inappropriate due to their alleged abuse and corruption.

The "Catholic Priestess order" in UK doesn't think that the new pope will recognize their clergy order.

Either Asians (Pinoy i think), or Africans, or citizens of continental America wants their cardinals elected a Pope. If a candicate hailed from the three continents were voted a new pope. They need a new name coined for the would-be Holy Father of all Catholics.

Lucius = "Light" for Asian
Americus = "Leader" for continental American
Fidelitus = "Faituful" for African

But wait! Don't Swiss Guards supposed to wear steel cuirass too?

**Manchu**

What are you on about?

**Lone Cat**

1. The new pope will still be controversial unless he will take action against 'issues' SNAP and the rogue priestess pointed out
2. All popes hail from Europe. mostly Italy.
3. Tell me about Papal Swiss guards please. I do saw the news about the new pope elections and despite they wear Renaissance outfit+morrion helmet and armed with halberd, they don't wear cuirass.

**Manchu**

No one cares what "priestesses" think. The next pope will probably not deal effectively with the sex abuse scandal for a variety of reasons. Not every pope was born in Europe. Swiss Guards sometimes wear a cuirass.

**Rented Tritium**

There have been popes from outside of europe.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Swiss guards also wear modern fatigues and carry automatic weapons. The years might have passed but they are still roughly three hundred (around there... can't remember) people high on the list of people you should not want to feck with.

**LordofHats**

Apparently there's white smoke now.

**Alfndrate**

We apparently have a new pope... Father Jacob Maurer tweeted out 5 minutes ago, "White Smoke! Habemus Papum!" Not sure if he's using the correct forms for the Latin, and google doesn't have news results for it yet...

Edit: ninja'd

**thenoobbomb**

Alfndrate wrote:
We apparently have a new pope... Father Jacob Maurer tweeted out 5 minutes ago, "White Smoke! Habemus Papum!" Not sure if he's using the correct forms for the Latin, and google doesn't have news results for it yet...

Edit: ninja'd

Dutch radio stations have.
They got a cam on it. Lot's o white smoke.

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http://www.vaticanstate.va/EN/Monuments/webcam/index?cam=webcam5&testo=Saint%20Peter's%20Basilica should work..

**Spyral**

Alfndrate wrote:
We apparently have a new pope... Father Jacob Maurer tweeted out 5 minutes ago, "White Smoke! Habemus Papum!" Not sure if he's using the correct forms for the Latin, and google doesn't have news results for it yet...

Habemus Papam! = We haz Pope!

My vote is for Father Spodo Komodo at this stage ...

**Frazzled**

LordofHats wrote:
Apparently there's white smoke now.

Sorry, that was me. Found an old stash from my Disco Larry days....er sorry.

**LordofHats**

Frazzled wrote:
LordofHats wrote:
Apparently there's white smoke now.

Sorry, that was me. Found an old stash from my Disco Larry days....er sorry.

Thanks for getting our hopes up

Or down?

**thenoobbomb**

I actually found this on NationStates. It was a quote to awesome to not post here:

greed and death";p="13367365 wrote:White smoke was a mistake someone was burning evidence of covering up molesting priest and used the wrong chimney.

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Also,

Don't know if it's an earlier one, but that should be how it looks right now anyways.

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And the Swiss Guard are marching.

Why am I following this so close?

**Manchu**

@all: Please keep reds8n's earlier warnings in mind. Thanks.

**Alfndrate**

Aww my post was considered Off Topic, Sorry Manchu :(

Though I am fairly interested to see who it is. I just liked that scene from EuroTrip.

I'm wondering if it's going to be one of the 28 italian cardinals, who hold the largest voting power...

**thenoobbomb**

Yeah. They'll anounce it in like 20 minutes. They being a French Cardinal.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the winner is?

**Kovnik Obama**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the winner is?

Still no news. 6 minutes late, mr Pope

**thenoobbomb**

Unknown as of yet.

**dogma**

Peregrine wrote:

Except most (US, and probably true elsewhere) catholics don't, since they ignore the church's rules banning birth control.

But they still call themselves Catholic, so there is a self-evident degree of adherence.

Edit: politeness.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the winner is?

Still no news. 6 minutes late, mr Pope

Probably an older guy, takes awhile to get all that Pope bling on.

For the record it looks miserable in St Peter's Square tonight, but it's absolutely packed.

Live feed if it hasn't been posted already:

http://www.vaticanstate.va/content/vaticanstate/en.html

**Manchu**

When John XXIII was elected, they did not have vestments large enough for him.

Now there was a good pope.

**Hyenajoe**

The new Pope is from Argentina and he takes the name of Francis

**whembly**

Hyenajoe wrote:
The new Pope is from Argentina and he takes the name of Francis

Interesting...

**LordofHats**

He's already been updated on Wiki:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis