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HQ
Mephiston

Elites
5 Sanguinary Guard
-Banner
-power fist
-infernus pistol

Chaplain (goes with death company)

Troops
5 assault (JP)
-power fist

5 Death Company
-2x power sword
-land raider (w/ extra arm)(
--side sponsons of TL las
--TL Heavy Bolter
--Pintle Storm Bolter

Fast Attack

Heavy
Predator
-TL las
-side sponsons Heavy Bolters
-extra armour
*NOTE* when i finish painting the baal predator, it will replace this one

Storm Raven
-TL las
-TL multi-melta
-extra armour

First time Posting
First time Marines

What I was thinking was maybe somehow add a vindicator so I could drop a demolisher round on any objectives. I really want to switch out the regular predator for a baal because i rather have the TL autocanon over a fourth TL las.

Criticism welcome, Hasn't been play tested yet. And yes I do understand I have ONE scoring unit because the DC don't count as a scoring unit. Cheers~

That list is going to be rough. You need more scoring units. you have 1 5-man squad. 5 out of 6 missions are objectives and you will not be able to wipepout any army with what you have.

I am not sure were to start with your list because i feel it needs to be compeltely scrapped and reworked.

At 1500 pts i would scrap mephiston and the chaplain. take the HB off the predator. You LR does not need extra arm or the pintle storm bolter.

Man you just need to rework completely. This list is an auto-lose i feel. BA are the weakest army right now, they are my only army BTW. Any oppanant will just throw everything at you 5 troops on round 1 and 2, kill them and just play defensive the whole time.

I would start as a basis

10-man Assault Squad, 2x melta, power weapon, melta bombs
10-man assault Squad, 2x Flamer, power fist
2 Sanquinary Priest, JP
i personally always add a 10-man Tactical squad, drop pod, flamer, heavy bolter, melta bombs, power weapon to create panic.

Use that as a base and build up from there. The priest and the FNP are one of the only things we have that are good. Any you need scoring units more that death company. For fun you can throw the DC in the Stormraven.

hmm Fair enough
Would you mind posting your list or a link to it please?

I have maybe 7 more assault marines give or take. So i can't really run 2 full assault squads.

drop pod with that tac squad i can easily do ( just painting )

I didn't want to put anything into the storm raven because i wouldn't be able to assault the turn it drops unless I hover it which puts it at higher risk for that turn.

I'll play test this list at least once tho to try it =P I'm known for trying complete homebrew stuff in Magic that killed the top tier decks by slapping them silly. Usually were one trick ponies tho ]=

As for Priests with JP. I need to get 2 of them with JP's, i technically have 2 without.

The chaplain could easily be dropped for another 5 man assault squad once i get them painted.

Thanks for the input so far!

posting from memory because i am at work so i might miss a random upgrade. Also this is my 1850 list.

Librarian, termie armor, Wings of sanguinious, unleash rage
1 sanguainary priest, jp, pw
Brother Corbulo
10 ASM, 2x melta, PW, Melta bombs
10 ASM, 2x flamers, PW, Melta bombs
10 Tact, Flamer, plasma cannon, PW, melta bombs, Drop Pod
5 Termies TH/SS, LR Crusader
Vindicator
Stormraven, TL Plasma, TL Multimelta, hurricane bolters

i have been thinking about replacing something with 3 attack bikes and maybe the librarian on one.

Corbulo goes with the termies in the LR. Priest goes with one squad of ASM and librarian in the other. Trying to keep close to get the 6" FNP to both ASM squads. Drop plops by an objective or just in the backfield to make chaos. I also have been trying to deploy a little consolidated and spear heading my way around. I find with my BA that if i deploy to spread out i just get wiped fast because we lack numbers. Also it lets me be able to move the priests around to give FNP where needed.

Ahh assault termies. Many people are going infantry heavy with 6e even in your list you have 39 units in total. My goal is to make an entirely mechanized list.
I can see the obvious benefits of what and how your fielding things.

Cause my long term goal would probably be 3 razorbacks with 5 assault marines each for my troops.

I am an idiot. I never realized a librarian in termi armour could fly like a jetpack... i never put two and two together lmao. JP termie armour... hmmm I may replace mephiston with the liby in termie armour for a starter..

I kinda really want to keep the death company with the new rules and maybe even throw in the death company dread to just rip to infantry...

Out of curiosity would you ever toss a baal in there?

razorbacks can be glanced to death real quickly and 5 man squads will not do anything. 39 troops soldiers are small when you compare to a similar sized orc, necron, space wolf, or or plain marines or worse yet chaos. I play a game against CSM with orc allies and just got decimated.

I would be ok subbing the tacts with the death company with bolters. that way you drop them out of a pod turn 1. they then rapid fire the bolters, then you rush them in turn 2. they should be okay that. People also seem to get scared by them.

I think you might be able to drop jump infantry while in zoom mode from you stormraven. i am not sure about that though.

Honestly if you want to bring some mech then grab some imperial guard allies. You get a few good things there, blobs of cheap infrantry , vendettas and mech. Plus fluffwise its pretty cool. My next major BA purchase is a whole bunch of mantic warpath guys with heavy weapons teams. Something like this gives you a spearhean of hard hitting power army guys and blob infantry to hold objectives and provide cover fire.

The jump infantry can drop when in zoom but everyone keeps saying that death company with jump packs is not worth it.

If they jump out you just roll a dangerous terrain check per model i think then normal armour save. But you can't assault that same turn.

Hmm so vehicle wise i'd say the vindicator is useful str 10 ap 1 anywhere on the template now.
Ball predator because a its fast attack and b its just fun
storm raven to have a flyer
Land raider..... squad and a half of tacts.

What about those 3 vehicles as a base? I kinda don't want to buy guard :3 unless I use tau allies.

not opposed to some allies. Good troops to hold objectives.

You will see what i mean as you play a few games. A land raider and a stormraven will eat 1/3 of you points. I would choose one at 1500 and then get both at 1850 or higher.

Dump Mephiston. He's bad in 6th edition. Actually ,very bad for 250 pts.

Don't let people talk you off the razorback. One of the few advantages the BA still have in 6th is our fast vehicles. Plasma and MLs aren't good at killing them in an efficient manner. Your opponent will need more destructive weapons to reliably eliminate them.

Don't use the DC. The BA have better elites and that's basically what the DC are, not troops. Their tricks only work on the charge, and that's a no-go for their price and limitations.

Ditch chaplains. Use divination librarians. They can do much more for their squad than the chappy. BA ICs suck in HTH. Get used to it. Deal with it.

Your pred is configured in an inefficient manner. For budget tank hunting, use autolas. For anti-infantry, use the dakka Baal.

Work in MM attack bikes. They are probably the single most useful unit in the BA codex now. Give them FNP and they are anti-tank nightmares.

I myself am using hybrid mech with the BA. I put my libby and SP in with my 10 man assault squad, and everyone else is a biker or rides a transport. The assault squad is there to be on counter attack duty for when people get close to my shooty tanks. Yes, this is truly the "coward angel" approach, but 6th has really neutered us.

Right now I'm painting up a baal predator, waiting for magnets to come in the mail so i can swap out its weapons at any time.

Alas I picked up the predator for about 25$ and came as is ]=

What would you put the libby in? Termie armour? or Power armour?

I presume dakka baal is autocanon with bolters =D??

For now i'm thinking of putting regular marines into the razor back, until I get some assault marines i could shove in there.

Thanks for all the input so far guys!

I put libbies with jump packs or bikes and run them with the ASM squad(s) along with the MM attack bikes.

Great respect with Mephiston but he hasn't been cutting it for me I would drop him and grab a regular libby for a hundred points. With that you've got 150 mor points to spend on another squad of assault marines. I've also put stormshield on my sarges as they take the challenge and soak up the attacks and than smack back. Hope any of that helps. Sanguinius be with you brother.

 BrotherGnaeus wrote:
Great respect with Mephiston but he hasn't been cutting it for me I would drop him and grab a regular libby for a hundred points. With that you've got 150 mor points to spend on another squad of assault marines. I've also put stormshield on my sarges as they take the challenge and soak up the attacks and than smack back. Hope any of that helps. Sanguinius be with you brother.

this is a good point. i've considered dropping mephiston in my list and getting 2 libs with jump packs to run around with my 2 FnP Assault marine squads.

Libby with jetpack or Libby with wings of sanguinius abd termie armour =P

Heres mine . . might help . . seems to work ok for me

Rhino Razor (1500pts)




+ HQ + (115pts)

* Librarian (115pts)
Shield of Sanguinius, Unleash Rage
* Power Armour
Infernus Pistol


+ Elites + (65pts)

* Sanguinary Priests (65pts)
* Sanguinary Priest
* Power Armour
Chainsword, Infernus Pistol


+ Troops + (800pts)

* Assault Squad (185pts)
4x Assault Marines, Meltagun
* Razorback
Twin Linked Assault Cannon
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon


* Assault Squad (185pts)
4x Assault Marines, Meltagun
* Razorback
Twin Linked Assault Cannon
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon


* Death Company (205pts)
2x Bolt Pistol, 4x Bolter, 4x Chainsword, 6x Death Company Marine, 2x Power Sword
* Razorback
Twin Linked Heavy Flamer


* Tactical Squad (225pts)
Meltagun, Multi Melta, Rhino, 9x Tactical Marine
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolter, Chainsword


+ Fast Attack + (405pts)

* Baal Predator (115pts)
Flamestorm Cannon


* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


* Baal Predator (145pts)
Heavy Bolters, Twin Linked Assault Cannon


+ Heavy Support + (115pts)

* Predator (115pts)
Twin Linked Lascannon

Don't want your 5 man assault squad shot off the board? Want them to tote their special weapons into CC where they're useful on the turn they arrive and for a fraction of the cost? Take Vanguard Veterans. Sure you have to buy their jump packs and they can't bring Independent Characters but they are still some of the most viable units in a foot BA list. Being able to reroll reserves and then deep strike with a d6 scatter and then immediately charge some poor unsuspecting sap is too good to pass up. If our whole codex had this ability (and were not fighting Interceptor spam Tau) our codex would be broken, but even dropping a 5 man squad with 4 melta bombs in to wreck armor or Monstrous creatures on Turn two for only 185 pts is pretty awesome.

Sternguard are cool too but in a different way, we do do them better than most chapters though as we can put Corbulo and Tycho in the pod with them for a ridiculously durable Sternie unit.

Use Honor guard to your advantage. They can do pretty much anything you want them to, come with a free Sanguinary priest in the cost of the unit and make great protection/transport for your warlord.

In general, I try not to hybridize, I have the options to, but I either run Armor Spam or Infantry. Trying to do both nets you not enough bodies and not enough AV so if they brought enough AI, you get your scoring units wiped off the board and if they brought some AT you lose your long range fire support and if they brought both, on better platforms than BA can scrap together, you just lose. You get tabled. Focus on one.

you always need an element to get close and an element to sit back and shoot. In a foot list, bring Devs and scouts and maybe a tactical squad or two if you have room and have a job for them to do. In a mech list, bring everything that you normally would, but then plan to use Las/plas razors or HF razors and Flamer Baals/Land Raiders to get close and do some damage, then let the rest of your vehicles support them from long range

and most of all, have fun. Blood Angels at this point are just about enjoying the game and the battle, not WAAC.

Don't ever use vanguards. Ever. They cost WAY too much for a 5 wound squad. The last thing the BA need is a lower model count.

Heres a mech heavy list that can overwhelm opponents with lots of threatening armour on turn 1.

Librarian
Force axe, boltpistol
Divination

5 assault marines
Flamer, mbs
Drop pod
(These arrive after the sh*t has hit the fan)

10 scouts
5 with chainswords and bolt pistols
5 with sniper
Mbs
(Hide these most game also combat squadded)

Furioso
Magna grapple, frag cannon, melta gun.
Drop pod

Furioso
Magna grapple, bloodtalons (with sb and mg)
Drop pod

Baal predator
Flamestorm

Baal predator
Flamestorm

Baal predator
Flamestorm

Vindicator

Vindicator

Stormraven
Tl assault cannon, tl multimelta

1500

This is a stipped down version of my 2k which includes more durable troop choices.
5 tanks and 2 dreads hitting hard turn 1. The raven appears to deal with any flyers or annoying skimmers that the dreads didn't take on the drop (cough *serpents*). At 2k (esp 2.5k) you hit the sweet spot and BA mech spam becomes far more threatening. Still an overpriced codex mind!