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 pretre wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Didn't see this in the OP:

75hastings69March 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I suppose I could tell you there are some new units....... but that would be a bit too vague. Hmmm, expect rhino variants, and also a new "suit" smaller than a dread but bigger than a termie. Will that do to start the rumours off?

Second quote block, first two lines

Damn my eyes!

*Breaks out the goat and sacrificial knife*

Consider it done

Video games don't help the Space Marine dominance. They need to license more games with Eldar and Tau as the protagonists of the story.

If this is true, I'm excited to see that the 'Nilla Marines get a new Codex so soon. While I'm actually OK with our current codex, maybe this will come out soon enough for me to not have to get the stupid Flyer compendium as the new codex should have the new Flyer updates in it.....

Will also be nice to see a new Eldar 'dex so my buddy will finally get some flyers to play with.

The thing I'm most sad about is no guesstimate of the Ork 'dex in the schedule . As soon as that hits, I'll start my second army again.

anonymous email to Natfka wrote:I have it on good Authority that Codex Space Marines will be the June release this year. Eldar will follow them. There is also a "Mystery Box" slated for September/October (ala Space hulk). GW have 2 which they have waiting in the wings, Blood Bowl and Warhammer Quest but no idea which it will be at this time.

Warhammer wise, I was told what was coming out and in which order, but to be honest I forget as I dont play the game. But I do know that Lizardmen and High Elves are this year.

Personally I still believe Eldar before SM, like Harry and Hastings say.

 Kroothawk wrote:

anonymous email to Natfka wrote:I have it on good Authority that Codex Space Marines will be the June release this year. Eldar will follow them. There is also a "Mystery Box" slated for September/October (ala Space hulk). GW have 2 which they have waiting in the wings, Blood Bowl and Warhammer Quest but no idea which it will be at this time.

Warhammer wise, I was told what was coming out and in which order, but to be honest I forget as I dont play the game. But I do know that Lizardmen and High Elves are this year.

Personally I still believe Eldar before SM, like Harry and Hastings say.

Same; I believe them over an anonymous email too.

 Absolutionis wrote:
The Black Marines being shoveled into the Generic Marines codex is just wishlisting, calm down.

Plus, you cal always play Red Marines, Green Marines, Grey Marines, or Super Silver Psychic Marines if your Black Marines codex gets merged with the Generic Marines.

Except as a BT player all I'd have if I had to switch Codex (especially to GK, good luck with that) would be the Troops (and not even that for DA or Vanilla) and a whole lot of semi-subpar unit, meaning I'd have to spend hundreds of dollars effectively rebuilding (and re-painting) my army. It's obviously not as bad as it would be for a non-MEQ Codex, but "one does not simply swap into Vanilla".

And yes, ketchup and strawberries. Try it on a single one. I've only tried it with Heinz Ketchup though, so I can't vouch for other brands.

Bob Hunk wrote:

75hastings69 wrote:I suppose I could tell you there are some new units....... but that would be a bit too vague. Hmmm, expect rhino variants, and also a new "suit" smaller than a dread but bigger than a termie. Will that do to start the rumours off?

Hmmmm, very interesting, this sounds a lot like something that I've seen play tested at certain events. Might be a coincidence but if it's the same thing then I'd expect this "suit" to essentially be a mini-Contemptor dreadnought similar to the RT-era type, designed for living Marine heroes to wear into battle and then leave afterwards. Walker, WS/BS 5, AV11, 5++ save, two power fists (with alternative weapons) and an optional jump pack.

75hastings69 wrote:Very interesting

 Kroothawk wrote:

Bob Hunk wrote:

75hastings69 wrote:I suppose I could tell you there are some new units....... but that would be a bit too vague. Hmmm, expect rhino variants, and also a new "suit" smaller than a dread but bigger than a termie. Will that do to start the rumours off?

Hmmmm, very interesting, this sounds a lot like something that I've seen play tested at certain events. Might be a coincidence but if it's the same thing then I'd expect this "suit" to essentially be a mini-Contemptor dreadnought similar to the RT-era type, designed for living Marine heroes to wear into battle and then leave afterwards. Walker, WS/BS 5, AV11, 5++ save, two power fists (with alternative weapons) and an optional jump pack.

75hastings69 wrote:Very interesting

Was this on Faeit 212? or Warseer?

You're killing me today, KH.

Want another one?

75hastings69 wrote:SM are coming, just not in June.

 wyomingfox wrote:
Was this on Faeit 212? or Warseer?

If Hastings posts anywhere else, I mention that.

I'll be pretty bummed if they release another IG codex before they release a good sisters codex.

I keep seeing people mention Sisters of Battle, but I never actually seen someone play them IRL. IMHO they would get an updated book if they were more popular the first time they got released.

I understand the frustration, but that just seems to be the hard truth

easysauce wrote:


serioulsy 4-5 codexes for SM is ludicrous, BT? i never played them, no reason they cant just be a regiment in C:SM

all the BT who QQ... well I dont have my codex catachans, or any IG regiments anymore, and I QQ'd thinking it mattered, but I still have catachans to play and its not that different with them only having lore/looks to make them different now

"I don't play them, so who cares-they can get folded back into the main SM book." Thanks for putting out an opinion that is selfish and contributes nothing. If you had actually played them and felt they deserved to be folded in, you might have a valid argument. But having no working knowledge of the codex and saying it doesn't deserve to exist makes your opinion worthless. You need at least a little knowledge to actually contribute to that argument. Having actually played BT and liking their workings, I'd like them to stay separate as there are enough differences (mandatory Champion that allows for that 3rd HQ slot, mixed Initiate/Neophyte [Tactical/Scout] squads, blessed hull for Land Raiders, better anti-psyker abilities, being more pissed off than regular marines, and some unique wargear). That said, if those things were all kept and chapter traits unlocked varying parts of the SM codex, I'd be okay with that, but ONLY if all those unique BT traits were kept for a BT chapter trait chosen when building the list.

Earth Dragon wrote:
I keep seeing people mention Sisters of Battle, but I never actually seen someone play them IRL.

Well, all official rules are out of print. But well executed, it is an army that can generate the most sales just because so few play them ATM.

So the latest rumours from Feit212 is that Space Marines got bumped to be next.

I suppose my question would be... Will we see another print run of Death from the Skies? It's been awhile now and still no third print run on Death from the Skies, perhaps this is an inclination of things to come in the near future.

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
I'll be pretty bummed if they release another IG codex before they release a good sisters codex.

IG have lapped sob repeatedly.

As a Guard player, I don't feel I'm in particular need of a new codex. Some things need to be nerfed (Vendetta) and some ought to be a little better (ogryn, stromtroopers), but hardly codex re-write materiel.

Well, not codex re-write materiel for any non-GW company; GW seems to abhor point costs in FAQs for some asinine reason.

What I would like, however, is for them to finish the model range. Hydra, plastic artillery, plastic stormtroopers, guardsman special weapons, that sort of thing.

I just hope the nids get a new codex before the year is done

 WolfLordStark wrote:
I just hope the nids get a new codex before the year is done

This year? No. Before the end of next year? Far more likely.

Earth Dragon wrote:
I personally feel it would be nice if they consolidate all the Space Marine Chapters into 2-3 books. What's wrong with making 8 damn lists and stuffing them in just a few books? Is there anything wrong with that? Quite giving the main list Salamander units (He'stan, new Land Raider) and just give them a list. Just give the White Scars a list. Separate them by fighting style between the books.

The approach I took was a two-tiered doctrine system. Separate lists are not how I'd do it, because with 1,000 chapters there aren't going to be as many hard lines between where, for example, the Ultramarines' successors end and the White Scars successors begin.

Earth Dragon wrote:
I keep seeing people mention Sisters of Battle, but I never actually seen someone play them IRL. IMHO they would get an updated book if they were more popular the first time they got released.

I understand the frustration, but that just seems to be the hard truth

That is only half of the equation. The other half is that other armies, like the Space Marines, have never been as poorly supported as the Sisters of Battle have for their entire history. The Space Marines didn't have to fight tooth and nail to be given their first plastic kits, they were handed to them on a silver platter. The Grey Knights and Necrons are the closest, but even they got plastic kits and continuous codex availability from 5th and 3rd respectively.

If the new not-Dreadnought suit is a nod to the old Rogue Trader Dreadnoughts that would be really interesting. A somewhat direct conversion of those old stats to current rules would basically make them mini-monstrous creatures (i.e. sort of like Mephiston):

Contemptor-class Close Assault Dreadnought ("Chuck")
WS 6, BS 6, S 8, T 8, I 6, A 3. Probably 4 wounds. Had the same armor save as power armor, so 3+ now.
Armed with two twin-linked boltguns. Also has a power field (see Codex: Dark Angels, p. 64) and jump pack.

TzeentchNet wrote:
If the new not-Dreadnought suit is a nod to the old Rogue Trader Dreadnoughts that would be really interesting. A somewhat direct conversion of those old stats to current rules would basically make them mini-monstrous creatures (i.e. sort of like Mephiston):

Contemptor-class Close Assault Dreadnought ("Chuck")
WS 6, BS 6, S 8, T 8, I 6, A 3. Probably 4 wounds. Had the same armor save as power armor, so 3+ now.
Armed with two twin-linked boltguns. Also has a power field (see Codex: Dark Angels, p. 64) and jump pack.

Contemptors already exist in the Forgeworld line; they're basically just dreadnought alternatives, not radically different in state lines, but have some additional weapon choices, like a conversion beamer.

TzeentchNet wrote:
If the new not-Dreadnought suit is a nod to the old Rogue Trader Dreadnoughts that would be really interesting. A somewhat direct conversion of those old stats to current rules would basically make them mini-monstrous creatures (i.e. sort of like Mephiston):

Contemptor-class Close Assault Dreadnought ("Chuck")
WS 6, BS 6, S 8, T 8, I 6, A 3. Probably 4 wounds. Had the same armor save as power armor, so 3+ now.
Armed with two twin-linked boltguns. Also has a power field (see Codex: Dark Angels, p. 64) and jump pack.

With that stat line it should cost close to 200 points. At least, based on TMCs.

Yeah, I doubt they will be nearly that good. Will be interesting to see how they justify something better than the supposedly super-rare Terminator suits.

FWIW it may be that this rumor is confusing the Forge World Thallax, which has been described as being between Terminator and Dreadnought sized as well.

(I know they have Contemptors from Forge World, which are based on the old Epic Space Marine 2e pattern. Those are not the same as the earlier Contemptor, Deredeo, and Furibundus.)

http://natfka.blogspot.nl/2013/03/space-marine-release-rumor-check.html

One of our long time sources that likes to make sure we don't stray too far off course has checked in on yesterday's rumor that Space Marines are next for June. Well it was simple, short and sweet what he said, so no going into any long details.

"Space Marines are not after Tau".

Personally I am not going to disagree with these sources. Do I want Eldar sooner rather than later? yes, but none of these rumor sources is changing the time frame of Eldar. Its only Space Marines that are on the stage here.

Hastings word is still cannon, our rumor check has an extremely good record. The source of the Space Marine rumor seems to have the credentials, and is a new contact. Will we see Space Marines next? I am here to report what I receive and can dig up, so I will let you decide.

So will BT now be the cover art for C:SM? How (not)funny would that be?

 SickSix wrote:
So will BT now be the cover art for C:SM? How (not)funny would that be?

This would be amazing, its about time GW realised again who the true and righteous crusaders are.

 SickSix wrote:
So will BT now be the cover art for C:SM? How (not)funny would that be?

BT's were the poster boys for 3rd edition and there was no BT codex for quite some time (Armageddon) in that edition. Made them the defacto C:SM faction amusingly enough. This was back when BT characters were in C:SM as well.

 pretre wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
So will BT now be the cover art for C:SM? How (not)funny would that be?

BT's were the poster boys for 3rd edition and there was no BT codex for quite some time (Armageddon) in that edition. Made them the defacto C:SM faction amusingly enough. This was back when BT characters were in C:SM as well.

Oh i know. I own 3rd ed C:SM and Codex: Armageddon.

But I think it would make some cry, and some laugh.

BT players will cry and those of us wanting fewer SM books will laugh (and rejoice loudly if chapter traits are brought back).

Oh yeah actually I hope this doesnt happen.