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 Kroothawk wrote:
Well, we all know that there will be no Codex-a-month for a year, so why even discuss this nonsense.

They can always release mini-updates like the chaos demons booklet to coincide with new model releases and boost sales for those.

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 edweird wrote:
Kroothawk...I enjoy the hyperbole but I am referring to one 40k codex per month, whether or not a fantasy or lotr book drops is far less stable. Especially from the clues and feedback I got from my conversation with the GW (pant)suit at GAMA. A 40k codex a month is clearly the model they are trying to continue this edition.

Personally I hope they keep it up and do get every army updated within a year. If the trend continues and every army has about the same power level as the ones released so far, 40k might actually be kinda balanced for once. Kinda. Then again that assumes no more feth-ups like the heldrake (which they made even better with the FAQ).

helldrake isnt a feth up its relativly ballanced and as soon as more armies get AA it will be pointless..... just remember most people can alli in tau and 3 Broadsides with str8 AP1 skyfire are rumoured and thats a dead drake there..... its one of the best units in the dex, that doesnt make it OP....

I find it funny when people imply the codex per month system will lead to a 'what next' situation when everything has been updated. Considering the sheer number of armies between both game systems, by the time every force got a new book it would be time for a new edition and the cycle would start all over again.

I for one love the faster updates, I think one of the biggest problems with 40k is the stagnation of over half the codices at any given time and frankly I think GW is perfectly capable of maintaining the current pace of new releases.

From what I've been paying attention to (financials, CHS, etc), I believe that GW has to release the rest of them this year.

Id never play sisters, but if they released some plastic sitsters kits that were awesome I would buy some for sure just for the models.


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I really hope we have all the 40k xenos updated this year,

IG and all the SM need nothing...

serioulsy 4-5 codexes for SM is ludicrous, BT? i never played them, no reason they cant just be a regiment in C:SM

all the BT who QQ... well I dont have my codex catachans, or any IG regiments anymore, and I QQ'd thinking it mattered, but I still have catachans to play and its not that different with them only having lore/looks to make them different now

Although if they do release material on a regular basis, it would seem to me to make more sense to keep BT separate, as it plugs a month of release. The upgrade sprue is entirely serviceable (just like the DA one is), all they would need is their flyer (do they get stormraven and stormtalon now?) and a big based monstrosity. Or use the Dreamforge Leviathan. Seriously, it screams BT.

 Skinnereal wrote:
The problem with a codex-a-month, and 40K ASAP, is "then what?"
If GW releases every model in every codex for a game, what do they do until the next version (7th) gets released?

There's more scenery coming out, but I can't think what they'll do when they run out ideas on that.

we would finally have a edition with all up to date codexes?

somethign I have wanted for 14 years of 40k?

then at 7th, re release them all...

new codexes every other or third edition is silly, and new codexes sell plenty of models and spur interest and can balance things out.

even just the RUMOURS of new tau AA has cured some air spammy lists around here...


I love it

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 edweird wrote:
Kroothawk...I enjoy the hyperbole but I am referring to one 40k codex per month, whether or not a fantasy or lotr book drops is far less stable. Especially from the clues and feedback I got from my conversation with the GW (pant)suit at GAMA. A 40k codex a month is clearly the model they are trying to continue this edition.

Personally I hope they keep it up and do get every army updated within a year. If the trend continues and every army has about the same power level as the ones released so far, 40k might actually be kinda balanced for once. Kinda. Then again that assumes no more feth-ups like the heldrake (which they made even better with the FAQ).

helldrake isnt a feth up its relativly ballanced and as soon as more armies get AA it will be pointless..... just remember most people can alli in tau and 3 Broadsides with str8 AP1 skyfire are rumoured and thats a dead drake there..... its one of the best units in the dex, that doesnt make it OP....

Tell that to someone playing straight DA. We just got a new codex and struggle with that monstrosity. The Heldrake and the Nephilim are pretty far apart in utility.

easysauce wrote:
Id never play sisters, but if they released some plastic sitsters kits that were awesome I would buy some for sure just for the models.


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I really hope we have all the 40k xenos updated this year,

IG and all the SM need nothing...

serioulsy 4-5 codexes for SM is ludicrous, BT? i never played them, no reason they cant just be a regiment in C:SM

all the BT who QQ... well I dont have my codex catachans, or any IG regiments anymore, and I QQ'd thinking it mattered, but I still have catachans to play and its not that different with them only having lore/looks to make them different now

No offence but WTF!
BT in codex SM?

The Black Marines being shoveled into the Generic Marines codex is just wishlisting, calm down.

Plus, you cal always play Red Marines, Green Marines, Grey Marines, or Super Silver Psychic Marines if your Black Marines codex gets merged with the Generic Marines.

Good stuff. Updated the tracker.


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Didn't see this in the OP:

75hastings69March 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I suppose I could tell you there are some new units....... but that would be a bit too vague. Hmmm, expect rhino variants, and also a new "suit" smaller than a dread but bigger than a termie. Will that do to start the rumours off?

I can't wait for this (supposed) new Space Marine release, i can now finally get special trait or rule just for being a blood raven! This is assuming one must pick a generic IC and pick a chapter for the IC to be from to get the trait, or hopefully they make Gabriel Angelos, oh the possibilities.

After seeing the lame DA flyer and the Tau flyer...I weep for what the Eldar flyer will possibly look like. I may just stick with my FW Eldar flyers anyways as I doubt the Eldar flyer in the codex will have Vector Dancer like the FW counter parts. All eldar flyers should have that...Dark and Craftworld alike, as it makes sense. Meh.

i've also seemed to notice that sisters are lacking in the release schedules, would it be plausible to think that sister will be bundled in a supposed allies release some time in the future. The lack of a codex update wouldn't hurt anything (except peoples actual armies and egos), and they would get updated for 6th edition (without the codex).

Personally I would like to see a Sisters codex. Been playing 10+ years and have collected Daemons Orks and Necrons. Always said if Sisters ever go plastic I will finally collect an imperial army.

Also what was said about female demographic is true. I have known several women who, although they do not play the game, enjoy collecting and painting the minis. One particularly had nearly 10k worth of skaven and had never played a game. (yes it made my eyes bulge when I learned that too) But she also collected SoB, just not nearly as many because of the price.

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
After seeing the lame DA flyer and the Tau flyer...I weep for what the Eldar flyer will possibly look like. I may just stick with my FW Eldar flyers anyways as I doubt the Eldar flyer in the codex will have Vector Dancer like the FW counter parts. All eldar flyers should have that...Dark and Craftworld alike, as it makes sense. Meh.

Vector Dancer is in the rulebook so they must be planning to put it on something.

 TedNugent wrote:
I swear to god, if GW releases another SM Codex before they release my new Orks, I'm going to fly down to their HQ and leave a flaming bag of dookie outside their front door and ring the doorbell.

Said like a true Ork player.

Vector Dancer will probably go to the next SM flyer

CWE rumors seem very much in line with what we've seen for a lot of the recent releases. They are the army i'm looking forward to this year. Their model line has gone from strength to strength...I just hope GW don't go bat gak crazy with the UBERTAR.

Perhaps we will see mixed gender squads if Aspect Warriors go plastic?

Dammit, still no sure sign of Plastic Sisters/a proper codex?

As a Sisters player this continues to grind my gears!

D

If Raging Heroes Not-Sisters-of-Battle do. Might prompt GW either way.

 evildrcheese wrote:
Dammit, still no sure sign of Plastic Sisters/a proper codex?

As a Sisters player this continues to grind my gears!

And the last 16 years of no proper codex didn't grind your gears?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
After seeing the lame DA flyer and the Tau flyer...I weep for what the Eldar flyer will possibly look like. I may just stick with my FW Eldar flyers anyways as I doubt the Eldar flyer in the codex will have Vector Dancer like the FW counter parts. All eldar flyers should have that...Dark and Craftworld alike, as it makes sense. Meh.

Vector Dancer is in the rulebook so they must be planning to put it on something.

There's a sea monsters special rule in the Fantasy rulebook, but no sign as yet that it will be utilised

Do the sea monster rules perhaps date back to the Monster of Loch Lorm from the McDeath Campaign pack ?

 pretre wrote:

 evildrcheese wrote:
Dammit, still no sure sign of Plastic Sisters/a proper codex?

As a Sisters player this continues to gribnd my gears!

And the last 16 years of no proper codex didn't grind your gears?

the key word is continues. I don't actually know if I have any gears left, I think they've turn into dust. Sad and angry dust....

D

 pretre wrote:
Didn't see this in the OP:

75hastings69March 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I suppose I could tell you there are some new units....... but that would be a bit too vague. Hmmm, expect rhino variants, and also a new "suit" smaller than a dread but bigger than a termie. Will that do to start the rumours off?

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easysauce wrote:
, BT? i never played them, no reason they cant just be a regiment in C:SM

Never played them? Thanks for your educated opinion

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Didn't see this in the OP:

75hastings69March 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I suppose I could tell you there are some new units....... but that would be a bit too vague. Hmmm, expect rhino variants, and also a new "suit" smaller than a dread but bigger than a termie. Will that do to start the rumours off?

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Damn my eyes!

I personally feel it would be nice if they consolidate all the Space Marine Chapters into 2-3 books. What's wrong with making 8 damn lists and stuffing them in just a few books? Is there anything wrong with that? Quite giving the main list Salamander units (He'stan, new Land Raider) and just give them a list. Just give the White Scars a list. Separate them by fighting style between the books.

Fast Attack Type teams that have Assault Marines or Bikes are troop options are in one book (Blood Angels, White Scars)

In your face, bloated with large numbers chapters are in another (black templar, space wolves)

Standard Codex and Innovative Chapters Packing Special Gear in the third (Ultramarines, Salamanders, Dark Angels)

They all have their own lists. You'd have tons of people Buying all three. And to increase White Dwarf subscriptions, release "Showcase chapter of the Year" lists that help you sell some special characters and break down what their list would like look, normally limiting the player pretty with one of the current lists with a couple minor twists. Or even help you sell some bits kits for "flavor of the month" loons.

Boom. I made everyone happy. Less Books, more options, more white dwarf subscriptions.

From a gameplay standpoint, it makes sense to create an extra-large Codex: Space Marines, and have the function therein to "build your chapter," using various modifications you can choose from to make various flavoured chapters, and a set of pre-built variations with special units and rules to represent "special" chapters, like Black Templars, Dark Angels and Blood Angels. They don't deserve their own books, the differences between them don't justify it at all, but certain deserve to be represented with special rules.

However, GW has decided to make chapters increasingly divergent to drive model sales. They believe that making every previously codex-adherent chapter with modifications to being radically divergent with nipple armour, giant wings and special, never-before-seen speeders and the like. From gameplay, and indeed fluff perspective, a comprehensive Marine 'dex makes sense, but from a marketing standpoint, GW knows marines sell, so therefore, more marine armies.

Thankfully, my area doesn't have marine-dominance; there's only one other loyalist marine player in the area, and a single player who sometimes uses space wolves, but I still don't think having fully half the written books dedicated to Marines is a good idea.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
From a gameplay standpoint, it makes sense to create an extra-large Codex: Space Marines, and have the function therein to "build your chapter," using various modifications you can choose from to make various flavoured chapters, and a set of pre-built variations with special units and rules to represent "special" chapters, like Black Templars, Dark Angels and Blood Angels. They don't deserve their own books, the differences between them don't justify it at all, but certain deserve to be represented with special rules.

However, GW has decided to make chapters increasingly divergent to drive model sales. They believe that making every previously codex-adherent chapter with modifications to being radically divergent with nipple armour, giant wings and special, never-before-seen speeders and the like. From gameplay, and indeed fluff perspective, a comprehensive Marine 'dex makes sense, but from a marketing standpoint, GW knows marines sell, so therefore, more marine armies.

Thankfully, my area doesn't have marine-dominance; there's only one other loyalist marine player in the area, and a single player who sometimes uses space wolves, but I still don't think having fully half the written books dedicated to Marines is a good idea.

I think instead of giving them their own books with new units to make them more different DA and BAs ahouls have been folded into codex marines. SW, GK and BTs though are not codex chapters though. That should be where the line is drawn, if a chapter adheres to the codex astartes it should be in the marine codex with special character unlocks.

And damn you're lucky, marine dominance in my area has stopped me getting back into the game :(