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2013/05/08 17:38:21
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
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2013/05/08 17:46:16
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
Well, that's me up to $350. That may be a bit of a high estimation for the amount of stuff I want at the end of the kickstarter but it'll do for now.
Hopefully one of the terrain battlezone is a badlands / desert theme to go with my main boards. But then, it's unpainted, so I'm not entirely sure how they'll be able to really define several different 'themes'.
2013/05/08 17:57:17
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
Compel wrote: Well, that's me up to $350. That may be a bit of a high estimation for the amount of stuff I want at the end of the kickstarter but it'll do for now.
Hopefully one of the terrain battlezone is a badlands / desert theme to go with my main boards. But then, it's unpainted, so I'm not entirely sure how they'll be able to really define several different 'themes'.
It's likely to take the form of additional sets that expand the core worlds set, and fit with its style.
For example, they're planning a landing pad set, and have also mentioned a set with triangle pieces to allow for 45 degree corners. It's likely that the connector sprue and accessory sprue will remain the same, and the main building sprues will be the thing that gets remade as each new battlezone gets produced.
Landing pad is... interesting, and hints at a dropship or something later down the line.
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2013/05/08 18:35:15
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
Hmm, I'm still holding off on going add-on crazy until Forge Fathers drop, but depending on fundage I think the $95 set will go well with what I have at Strike Force. Either way, this definitely jumped the pace up a bit. It will be interesting to see how this translates during the Friday rush.
2013/05/08 18:40:23
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
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2013/05/08 18:40:37
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
Compel wrote: Well, that's me up to $350. That may be a bit of a high estimation for the amount of stuff I want at the end of the kickstarter but it'll do for now.
Hopefully one of the terrain battlezone is a badlands / desert theme to go with my main boards. But then, it's unpainted, so I'm not entirely sure how they'll be able to really define several different 'themes'.
It's likely to take the form of additional sets that expand the core worlds set, and fit with its style.
For example, they're planning a landing pad set, and have also mentioned a set with triangle pieces to allow for 45 degree corners. It's likely that the connector sprue and accessory sprue will remain the same, and the main building sprues will be the thing that gets remade as each new battlezone gets produced.
Landing pad is... interesting, and hints at a dropship or something later down the line.
One thing i've BADLY wanted from this Kickstarter is a few "bigger" pieces.... ala a Dropship, vehicles, etc... As someone getting ready for the Warpath relaunch, I think it makes for a good preview, and in my book, table-top mini games always look best when scale allows things to look really interesting. A scale drop-ship might not have mechanical value in Deadzone itself (it might just put a great terrain piece), but if it is a model/unit for Warpath, so much the better.
Whenever I say this on the KS I get grief for the size of the game not supporting vehicles, "this isn't for Warpath! Wahhhhhhhhhhhh", type response.... but from Mantic's add-ons, the bundles of mats, and hell, even saying as much... it is clear they're looking at Deadzone being a bigger game than just the 2x2 it currently is.
Edit: And there you go... the newest update essentially says 4x4 Deadzone is already coming. Vehicles please!
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11527pts Total (7400pts painted)
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted)
2013/05/08 18:49:06
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
^ I completely agree with you, in fact I'm mainly interested in backing this to get minis and terrain for Warpath, and it's all 100% compatible for Warpath 2.0, too.
I'm eyeing up getting a full 4x4 urban board + terrain currently, possibly in the form of 3x strike team + 1 rubber mat, so I get the insane value of Strike Team, multiplied and at a discount, with all the terrain and a big enough board for Warpath. And small armies for 4 factions too.
"Suppression Team" level (3x Strike Team) at $430 is really, really tempting. Already worth $900 minimum, and likely to be worth $1500-$200 by the time this is over and done with.
It is very possible to start looking at this from a mass-battles warpath perspective, I think. Mantic are certainly leaving the door open to that.
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2013/05/08 18:54:51
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
Wow – what a start to our Scenery Spectacular! We’re already chunking through the Early Bird Pledge Levels – looks like there are going to be some pretty densely covered wargames tables out there!
For those of you playing Deadzone or just looking to add a couple of buildings to your collection, we’ve now got a $50 add-on allowing you to pick up two BattleZones (9 Sprues) – that’s a total of 6 building sprues (36 Tiles), 2 Connector sprues and 1 Accessory sprue, containing barrels, crates, railings and more.
What can that make? Well…
The $50 add-on allows you to build the equivalent of two of these towers plus a completely enclosed 1 story building.
If you add that on to a pledge of Strike Team ($150) and up you have enough tiles to build the board featured at the end of our new video:
The board is made up of roughly 66 tiles - Strike Team ($150) plus Urban Skirmish ($50) gives you the same number - and don't forget that Strike Team is getting an extra Core Worlds Building Sprue if we hit our next stretch goal!
If that's not enough, with rumours of multiplayer and rules to play on a 4’x4’ board flying around as well, we can safely say that adding on the Urban Battle $95 scenery pack to a pledge of Strike Team ($150) will give you enough scenery to fill a 4'x4' board:
So, if you're looking at building something similar in size to the game board featured in the video, we'd recommend the Urban Skirmish Pack ($50) - if you're looking at something more densely packaged or want to build more impressive structures, we recommend the Urban Battle ($95) pack. Both kits offer all kinds of versatility, and we can't wait to unlock more BattleZones for you to choose from!
Thanks for supporting Deadzone!
2013/05/08 19:00:57
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
Nearly at $368k now. We may well bust the stretch by the end of the day if this keeps up. Already over $14k for the day, let's see how far this goes. Can't wait to see how this translates in to the Friday rush.
2013/05/08 19:03:28
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
scarletsquig wrote: ^ I completely agree with you, in fact I'm mainly interested in backing this to get minis and terrain for Warpath, and it's all 100% compatible for Warpath 2.0, too.
I'm eyeing up getting a full 4x4 urban board + terrain currently, possibly in the form of 3x strike team + 1 rubber mat, so I get the insane value of Strike Team, multiplied and at a discount, with all the terrain and a big enough board for Warpath. And small armies for 4 factions too.
"Suppression Team" level (3x Strike Team) at $430 is really, really tempting. Already worth $900 minimum, and likely to be worth $1500-$200 by the time this is over and done with.
It is very possible to start looking at this from a mass-battles warpath perspective, I think. Mantic are certainly leaving the door open to that.
That is very tempting...
I think we're going to need a scarletsquig-style breakdown towards the end of the campaign as there might be some 'hidden sweet spots' at the higher levels, once the stretch goals are hit down the road...
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2013/05/08 19:11:32
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
streetsamurai wrote: urban batlle will give how much more terrain sprue compare to what we get in strike team?
From what I can see, it deosn't seem like such a good deal unless you go with the 285 add-on, cause, unless I'm missing something, for the same price (90$) I can get 3 Sanctum Imperialis from GW, and It doesn't seem like theyr is much of a difference in the size of the terrain you get.
I agree that the overall size isn't that different. I think its the configurability and usability that you're getting from the Mantic Terrain.
Sanctum imperialis builds one runied building. On the other hand with the Mantic terrain you have the option to build multiple smaller intact or open structures. Also, as the Mantic panels are shorter than GW, you can fit more levels in a given area. This is very important to skirmish games where more compact pieces are often preferable to larger terrain pieces.
Lastly I think that if you built 2-3 level corner buildings without backs or side walls the Mantic Terrain would make structures as big or bigger than simlarly priced GW buildings, but of course that's not really the intention for the Mantic kits.
^ That's 6 sprues *currently*. Mantic have said they want to increase that to 10 sprues by the end of the campaign so it will really fill out a 2'x2' space.
We'll be getting sprue #7 in an hour or two at the rate this is going with the $375k stretch goal.
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2013/05/08 19:53:13
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
No mention of the terrain pledges being eligible for terrain based stretch goals the pledge levels that are eligible for stretch goals specifically mention it in the description. Some Stretch goals will unlock new terrain designs and these will be available to terrain only pledges to pick as part of their battlezone choices.
2013/05/08 20:05:27
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
That's an interesting question for the future. Pretty sure they don't as of now, but I wonder how they will address that or if they will just keep adding freebies to strike force. It almost feels like its two kickstarters in one at this point.
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Yes right.. at the moment, I'm in for the 'Strike' level at $150 and the $95 scenery set (and $8 dwarf guy ). Not sure if that is the best way to do things, but will pay closer attention towards the end of the KS! I'm hoping that will give me a bumper pile of stuff for myself + mates to play on.
Also damn you Squiggy; you might actually talk me into dropping Suppression Team money here before all is said and done. I really hope Mantic acknowledges all the work you run around doing on their behalf, even if it's just a free T-shirt from each of their KickStarters.
2013/05/08 20:44:47
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - New terrain-only pledges. Grab your early birds NOW. :)
Schmapdi wrote: Do the terrain-only pledges benefit from any terrain-based stretch goals? (the ones passed already, or the ones in the future).
Yes and No. They don't get any freebies, but they do benefit from the earlier $50k goals that have already unlocked alternate wall sprues.
So, while a "new variant sprue" stretch goal to unlock a new battlezone might not be exciting to people in it for the minis/ the game, it'll be hugely exciting for those with the terrain pledges.
Also damn you Squiggy; you might actually talk me into dropping Suppression Team money here before all is said and done. I really hope Mantic acknowledges all the work you run around doing on their behalf, even if it's just a free T-shirt from each of their KickStarters.
Do it! It's definitely the standout deal at the moment if you've got $450 to put on the table. Four small armies, plus 4x4 mat and enough terrain to cram it full really is the complete package, both for deadzone and as a means of getting a serious headstart on Warpath.
At the moment, Suppression Team gives you $900 of stuff for $430, that is likely to rise to $1500+ of stuff by the time this is over. Mantic is only just getting warmed up as far as freebies go, don't be surprised to see another 50 or so minis find their way into Strike Team, it happened with Dreadball.
And yeah, they offered me a free KS exclusive skeledog on KoW since I didn't have the cash to put a large pledge down at the time.
I now do, and will be dropping another $185 on that when the survey comes out, so I'll get it regardless, but the offer was nice anyway.
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