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Not feeling the $20 for generic counters...

 scarletsquig wrote:
@Herzlos, Here's a render I made showing what 2 battlezones can make:

Spoiler:

The large building is one battlezone, and the 3 smaller buildings are another.

Awesome, thanks

So 2 battlezones will give a pretty dense 2x2 board, that's not bad at all.

And I think we basically get the equivalent of 2 Battlezones in Strike Team?

 Alpharius wrote:
And I think we basically get the equivalent of 2 Battlezones in Strike Team?

1.5 currently; each BattleZone is 4 building sprues while Strike team is presently 6.

Squig has mentioned that they do want to get Strike Team to 2 BattleZones, but not knowing what stretch goal that is I'm not sure I'd bank on that at this point in time.

just upped my pledge to 309, i might add another 50 for the faction boosters.

strike team: 141
helfather: 8
Urban battle addon: 95
expanded universe: 50
zombies: 15

might add another 50 for the boosters for enforcers and rebels, but i might just pledge that later after this has ended so i have more time to get some extra cash.

quick heads up - There are 3 Recon early birds up for grabs at the moment if anyone is on the fence and fancies getting in at a small $90 investment for quite a lot of stuff.

So close to the $675 goal... but I still think they'll need to give us visibility on more stretch goals to help push this one further, faster!

they should just make it clear and show the current 4 goals and once we get 2 of em, show off another 2.

Triszin wrote:

strike team: 141

You monster!


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 Alpharius wrote:
So close to the $675 goal... but I still think they'll need to give us visibility on more stretch goals to help push this one further, faster!

I know I am wanting to see some more. I want to do the BOGO, but not if it is just two Enforcers expansions.

 scarletsquig wrote:
quick heads up - There are 3 Recon early birds up for grabs at the moment if anyone is on the fence and fancies getting in at a small $90 investment for quite a lot of stuff.

*yoink*

That's scarlet!

I want to add the early bird Battlefield, but it keeps wanting to replace my Strike Team with it instead. How do I just add it?

i think its addon for anyone that bought a 100+ pledge. so i'm sure it'll be in the survey.

 Ahtman wrote:
I want to add the early bird Battlefield, but it keeps wanting to replace my Strike Team with it instead. How do I just add it?

You only select one pledge level, and then increase your ammount pledged based on what addons you want.

I haven't had to deal with it much before, as usually it is just selecting a tier and that is it. In this case I would just up the pledge to 245 and then tell the friendly machine that it is for both the Strike Team and Urban Battlefield early bird?

You can only claim one early bird. I guess you can make two Kickstarter accounts and claim both that way?

I guess you can't have two early birds.

@Ahtman - Early Bird Urban Battlefield is also available as the $95 "Urban Battle" add-on which costs exactly the same amount and has exactly the same contents.

So, yep, select Strike Team, and pledge $245 and you're all set!

The "Early Bird" pledge levels for terrain are simply a method of offering free shipping (normally costs an extra $5 if you're just selecting add-ons and aren't picking a pledge level) to a certain amount of terrain-only backers.

The Strike Team isn't an early bird Strike Team, just a normal, loser Strike Team.

Was anyone else a bit underwhelmed by the game play video.? Feels awfully...bland. I haven't gone thru the beta rules completely. Are they not using some features?

 cincydooley wrote:
Was anyone else a bit underwhelmed by the game play video.? Feels awfully...bland. I haven't gone thru the beta rules completely. Are they not using some features?

Part two has all the hookers and blow.

Actually, you know what? Screw the beta rules.

So hookers and blow are objects you can pick up? Egggggcellent

 cincydooley wrote:
So hookers and blow are objects you can pick up?

That depends on how much money you have.

As a reminder for everyone, Strike Team now contains 74 miniatures, 9 terrain sprues, premium mat and other stuff... you currently get ~$384 of stuff for $150.

And we know that Mantic wants to add 4 more mercs and 2 more terrain sprues at least to Strike Team, so here's hoping this can get at least another $200k to boost the swag pile even further!

Just read thru the beta rules. In the 1st game play video they really don't get I to any of the special actions (aim, overwatch) so it seems a bit simplistic.

For just showing the 'basics', I have to say - I'm happy with it!

This looks to be fun, offer a lot of good modeling opportunities, and will be a nice 'gateway' into Warpath as well!

Do you guys have a lot of people playing Warpath in your area? I'm mostly interested to use he Rebs with my Tau.

Exciting day in Deadzone land!

I'm totally disinterested in the counters, I'm glad they added them because so many people were after some, but I'll stick with card until I can devise some kind of toggleable multi-counters of doooom.

The video wasn't bad. It was extremely clear with the stand in cards, and explanation. It wasn't a whole lot to see, but it would take a fair bit of editing to make it as clear as it was. I'm sure we'll get to see some fun grenading in the next turn or so.

The warpath army is pretty interesting. The first half looks a lot like the corporation (well its warpath, most of the basic guys are reasonably similar in disposition and options but hey) with a melee friendly option. Its got typical unit options and upgrades, even has weapon teams.

Once you get past the infantry core it starts to diverge a lot from the corporation list. The striders are the same except weapon options. The second gens are melee monsters for sure, crushing blow 3 and alot of attacks. Just watch out for heavy weapons as most things in WP dont have multiple wounds...
Zombies seem pretty solid, melee only but you get them at a good rate and they don't run off. Cheap to buy right now too.
The plague swarms and dogs are both quick engage/tie-up units which will help take out enemy ranged specialists.

The first gen is pretty nasty, and the plagued teraton is a beast at tough 6 (six wounds more or less) and 6 crushing blow making all but the strongest tanks pretty fair game.

Speaking of tanks, the heavy tanks (pounder, heavy drakkarim) look like a problem for this list with the strongest ranged AT being only pierce 5, and the teraton having CB 6 but having to run up to the tank. I'm not sure its a point of critical imbalance, the veer-myn have to make do with some seriously short ranged AT themselves.
The rest of their gear is pretty standard, HMG lots of shot, GL looks neat... Cleaver has the lowest CB (4) of the heavy melee weapons but its also the cheapest across the lists (15pts).

The other thing I noticed is there are no saturation weapons for the plague, guess they didn't want anyone accidentally flaming up their own lines or some such.

TLDR? List looks pretty ok. Fighty troops, fast stuff, big monsters, light on anti tank.

It looks like the faction starter has 318 points or so of stuff, but you can't use it all without some extra 3rd gens (or converted zombies maybe?). The Big Booster Bundle is something like 500-550 points, but you need two BBB's to get enough models to field proper units of plague swarms and weapon teams. Second BBB gets you 6 dogs so one unit and a spare model.

With the cheapness of the zombie box and potentially subbing in some plague zombies (with proper weapons of course) into your 3rd gen squads, it won't take much to get a proper plague WP army going!

^ Should be quite easy to take the corporation trooper zombies and use those as counts-as "plague troopers" in the list to bump up the solid units... they're only armed with a single pistol in the rules anyway, so using the two more military-themed zombies off the sprue to represent the unit should do the trick (as well as being good filler for the plague warriors unit).

Hopefully the retail release will see everything released both as deadzone starter + booster packs *and* warpath unit boxes. That would be pretty sweet.

I love how this KS is doing a really good job of fleshing out Warpath.. they're getting all of the elite/ specialist units out of the way, but not producing models for the core infantry or vehicles (plague zombies excluded), so the Warpath Kickstarter can come along next year and make all that in hard plastic.

So, people who bought into deadzone this year will be well-prepared with all the elite units and terrain they'll need for Warpath next year. It's great how tightly linked the skirmish and mass battle games are here, all the minis are usable in both games, which adds some good "dual value" to them. I think the closest I ever got to that in warhammer was using my mordheim warband as an empire militia unit.

SS-Excellent With proper ordering of extra/enough zombies, one could make very easily differentiated warrior solid units to allow the use of all of those plagued teratons and extra 1st gens, while piling on some zombie mobs.

Seriously considering doubling up on the plague booster bundle in place of the marauders rather than get one of each... Since they can't have allies, if I wanna use these guys in warpath I'm gonna have to make sure they're well situated. Then its just a couple three zombie boxes to a right proper 2000 point list or so...

^ As for making lists, check out the battlescribe link in my sig... the plague army list file has already been created.

Here's a sample plague list I whipped up... this is what you get with 2x plague starters, +$50 double plague booster, +$45 for 60 plague zombies

Zombies are count-as plague warriors for the sake of this list (need the solid units to unlock all the teratons!), with a regular plague guy (or a machine gun guy) leading each of them. Alternatively, you could either not use the teratons, or have them count-as 2nd gens and use the zombies as zombies.

Well over 2000 points, with some minis spare (1st Gen, 1 plague dog, 1 weapons team, some 3rd gen specialists and 5 zombies):

+++ Deadzone Plague Warpath list (2155pts) +++
+++ 2000pt Plague (Alpha) Roster (Standard)) +++

* Plague Troopers Section (155pts)
1x Cleaver (15pts) (Crushing Strength (4)), Assault Rifle, Grenade Launcher (20pts) (Blast (D3))

* Plague Warriors Section (135pts)
1x Cleaver (15pts) (Crushing Strength (4)), Pistol (Pistol)

* Plague Warriors Section (135pts)
1x Cleaver (15pts) (Crushing Strength (4)), Pistol (Pistol)

* Plague Warriors Section (135pts)
1x Cleaver (15pts) (Crushing Strength (4)), Pistol (Pistol)

* Plague Warriors Section (135pts)
1x Cleaver (15pts) (Crushing Strength (4)), Pistol (Pistol)

* 2nd Gen Mutants (3) (105pts)
(Bulky, Crushing Strength (3))

* 2nd Gen Mutants (3) (105pts)
(Bulky, Crushing Strength (3))

* 2nd Gen Mutants (3) (105pts)
(Bulky, Crushing Strength (3))

* 2nd Gen Mutants (3) (105pts)
(Bulky, Crushing Strength (3))

* Heavy Weapon Section (105pts)
Mortars (30pts)

* Plague Dogs (10) (120pts)

* Plague Dogs (5) (60pts)

* Plague Swarm (4) (120pts)

* Plague Zombies (20) (200pts)
(Brainless)

* 1st Gen Plague Mutant (75pts)
(Crushing Strength (4), Inspiring)

* Plague Teraton (90pts)
(Crushing Strength (6), Tough (6))

* Plague Teraton (90pts)
(Crushing Strength (6), Tough (6))

* Plague Teraton (90pts)
(Crushing Strength (6), Tough (6))

* Plague Teraton (90pts)
(Crushing Strength (6), Tough (6))