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2013/12/12 15:20:04
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
I actually did find this one surprising - after all the (what now turns out to be) bs about reasons why they couldn't deliver the whole thing early in December "for tax reasons, so it'll all arrive first thing in Jan instead". Now they're talking about April and June.
I guess you can't trust anyone in the industry to talk straight or deliver on time - except Mantic on the latter point, and they may just decide to change materials on you at any point without mentioning anything...
Ahtman wrote: I didn't really care about the battle foam inserts, but now that I have seen them I do. I didn't realize the female fighter was going to be a, uh, rodent person.
Yeah, I am not thrilled about the 'Ratman Thief' and 'MongooseWarror'. Seems very random and out of place to me. It is what it is... I wouldn't have minded if they did 3 versions of each class, male/female/beastperson, but It was kinda odd to me.
I really like how they did the monster packs... Bugs, Orcs, Undead, Cyclops, Rats, Elementals... BAM! Easy groups and themes which really work strong together.
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2013/12/12 22:03:39
Subject: Re:MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
I actually did find this one surprising - after all the (what now turns out to be) bs about reasons why they couldn't deliver the whole thing early in December "for tax reasons, so it'll all arrive first thing in Jan instead". Now they're talking about April and June.
I guess you can't trust anyone in the industry to talk straight or deliver on time - except Mantic on the latter point, and they may just decide to change materials on you at any point without mentioning anything...
All good points Az!
Sobering and sad, but a good catch.
2013/12/12 23:21:22
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
I'm not sure the tax thing was bs, as at the time they may not have known that they would have to redo three sculpts, and were basing the projection on them being good to go. Something about attributing to malice what can easily be attributed to stupidity comes to mind.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2013/12/13 15:14:58
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
From the way they were talking about it a month or so ago, the trigger was pretty much pulled on 80% of 98% of the sculpts, and they chose to hold it back until Jan - now three sculpts are suddenly holding the project back 5 months(?!) - if we count December - which was when everything "would have" been delivered if not for the tax thing...
Alpharius wrote: However, I think all the other Ultra-Late Kickstarters have effectively beaten the outrage out of me at this point.
This.
I feel like a 1-3 month late KS is doing well; up to 6 and I'm annoyed but not surprised; more and things are getting pretty bad; and under a month is golden
+1 month extra for every $100,000 the project pulls in over the target
Oh, I usually do. And my outrage is mostly gone. And I'm pretty much capping out on KS projects with the last couple that I'm looking at. Still, one thing that does manage to piss me off is when delays are announced in the manner of Relic Knights - which is what this one just had. And Secret Weapon, for that matter. You know - when "delivering in a few weeks" overnight to "delivering in 3-6 months"...
I've become beaten down by KS that I'm outrage proof and can't even pre-emptively get outraged at palladium. I decided total extinction was going to be my last "unknown quantity" KS. I'll still back Mantic and a couple others that have shown they can deliver an on time or nearly so project, but the salad days of throwing money at companies is over.
Amazing how much plastic and cardboard sits untouched in the closet. Hopefully MYTH will satisfy the Heroquest itch when it comes in sometime before June.
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2013/12/16 22:19:04
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
Alpharius wrote: I think that it will fulfill all your Heroquest cravings and then some - especially as it will, hopefully, have updated 21st century game play mechanics too!
Agreed, this looks surprisingly good! They have executed it very well, imo... even the delay is a bummer, but not that bad.
Yeah, I'm pretty calloused about KS delays at this point sheesh.
2013/12/20 18:22:31
Subject: Re:MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
Dec 20, 2013
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The Myth base game arrived. You know that point in between hope and fear, yeah that was us about 90 minutes ago (had to wait on the video to upload). It has been a long pull towards this point. EVERYTHING is outstanding. It is better than we had hoped, and we had pretty high standards.
The colors pop. The materials are outstanding. The tiles feel fantastic. The miniatures are stiff and maintained their definition. The entire package is really above most of what you see out there.
Matte with a UV spot varnish on the art...so good.
The box grabs your attention. It would be impossible to not notice the box on a gaming shelf or in the hobby store. In fact, it will probably reach out and punch you in the mouth if you don’t pick it up.
The cards are sharp. They feel really good to the touch. Keith’s art absolutely jumps off the cards.
The Realm tiles are so awesome. I cannot say enough about the feel and look of the realm tiles. They are so stiff. No warping at the 90 minute mark. Everything we could have hoped for.
We were all floored by how good the Realm Tiles are.
We are so grateful you guys had faith in us and backed Myth. Seeing the final product, I think you'll be glad you did.
The plastic is hobby level firm. The details are outstanding.
The rule book is pretty sweet. Our background is in books, so you can expect great layout with lots of visuals.
Finally, here is the link to the unboxing video:http://youtu.be/DilQolkkauo. This is the first time we had seen the final pieces together.
The best part of this one for me was:
The plastic is hobby level firm. The details are outstanding.
2014/01/02 20:11:17
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
I really cant wait for this game to come out, incredibly sad i missed out on the kickstarter. Does anyone have any information of if it really would be feasible to play this game solo?
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2014/01/03 04:22:59
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
It looks great! Hopefully the minis are as quality as they are saying,... Because they look very very good!!!!
You can surely play the game solo if you are willing to play two or more characters at once,..... They may be able to provide some tweaks that would allow you to run only one hero, but there has been no mention of this since the KS
2014/01/03 07:23:55
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
Huge update including full rules PDF and full card details,.....woot!
The last nine or so days have been interesting and very unproductive, and all for various reasons. I had a 24 hour trip through what I have heard is being called the Ferrari flu. I can attest to both the quickness and the ferocity of what I experienced last Tuesday (New Years Eve). We were out for the New Year's holiday. We were snowed in last Thursday and today. If you are counting, I was only in office Monday and Friday of last week. My compatriots were in similar situations. It hasn't been a kind week and a half.
Ahhh, but a new dawn rises. And if I had to wait, this is an update worth waiting for. It is seriously like three updates in one.
Urulok
I don't want to share too much of the quest, but I felt a picture of the final dragon deserved a bit of the text from his KS exclusive story quest you are receiving. This is the opener for "The Song of the Whelp":
Without warning the whelp arrived.
With flame and misfortune, friendless,
a dragon, wretched and wrothful,
seeking wealth and former fame.
Marked for misery, a malicious intent
rendered in him the right of revenge.
Urulók, cloaked in flame, had come.
Unrelenting slumber defeated,
by a cracked cage, opened under the earth,
the hoard-guard awoke, long under
the mountain the wyrm waited. Focused on a foe:
Hurn, the high-lord of Heroes, worthy warrior whom
war-death evaded, warden of the whelp.
Missing Miniatures
We also realized that we hadn't shown you the final pictures of some of the other figures. We like to have other stuff to show later, but as we are very nearly at the end of this first journey, we might as well show some more. The photos below are older, but unseen.
Here is the female Trickster.
And here are the Agents.
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Donnchadh - Duncan's Trickster Level
We are so thankful that Duncan picked up the first Trickster level. If you didn't know, this was his first KS and to jump in with two feet and trust us is pretty great. It turns out, we couldn't have asked for a better partner to create a Trickster level with. Duncan comes to the table with ideas. I was able to take his preliminary idea and fold Donnchadh's story into that of Myth wonderfully.
As I have said in the past, this is just the first step in the story of Donnchadh. There are some great things that happen here, and I couldn't be more proud of what we were able to do with this backer specific content. I hope it provides others with an understanding of how we value our people and those that take this journey with us.
First off, here is the final Donnchadh miniature. It is an impressive miniature. We really like how it turned out. And while the figure is the only thing obligated by us, we really like our world to live and breathe. Why is this figure in the game? What brought him here? In this case, Duncan really supplied a lot of the background. It is inspired. However, we wanted Donnchadh to be special. The Twilight Knight has the only orange weapon in the game thus far, and we didn't want to take that from her. We decided to morph the "mini-boss" Donnchadh into an Agent. This means he supplies an Agent ability card.
Agent ability cards are something that came into being after the KS closed. We were looking for a way to make the Agents special. An Agent ability card is a reward for defeating an Agent. Only one is awarded per encounter (but Agents are never killed; merely defeated). The players will decide who gets it (an interesting conversation) and that player gets to manipulate their Hero deck and place the Agent card in.
There is a bunch of stuff I could say about his card, but I won't. It is part of the quest, and to explain it all would be to spoil the quest. However, I can say that Donnchadh doesn't start out as the enemy of the Heroes. It is only after a lengthy KS exclusive story quest does he become an Agent.
If you hadn't noticed, Donnchadh wields two weapons, but our Novice Heroes don't. It is something we intended to design into the Journeyman expansion(s). However, having Donnchadh duel-wield meant we had to come up with the rules before we were planning. It just so happens that what will become the rule for duel-wielding in the expansions came naturally from testing Donnchadh. Now fitting what needed to be communicated on his Agent card, that was really tricky. When you look upon his card, know that it is a very advanced "monster card" and you would be better served trying to understand a more simple monster card first.
In the end, Duncan's Trickster level got backers a special figure and a special (KS exclusive) Agent ability card. It also got them the first part of a pretty epic quest.
Rulebook
Here are the links to the Myth rule book and a couple of the pdf reference downloads:
When we first began the rule book, the table of contents had several "reference" sections. We decided to remove those sections and create free downloadable pdfs from the website. (The book was simply getting too large). We have included two of the reference sections with this download, because card space is limited and we knew some explanation of the Hero cards would be necessary (the other Heroes are in process) and players will want to understand how the game and tiles are setup (we admittedly provided just a brief explanation in the rule set).
It should be noted, that while the rule book has been printed, the other two documents are pdfs so can be edited and changed still. If you think either of them need something more (or you would like to see a completely different reference section created for a different aspect of the game), we can still make additions.
Review Copies
Finally, we have a limited quantity of review copies in house and are sending them out this week. At this point we have a list of 15 or so people or groups we are sending copies to. If you would like to see a review somewhere in particular, let us know. We are probably already sending them a copy, but if we aren't we might/could.
You'll have to wait until next week for the finale of the Slaughterfield. We have to finish shooting the video.
BAD A$$.
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2014/01/07 18:33:16
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
I'm also really liking that they put all of the tokens and many of the rules from the expansions in the main box,.....
I know it may frustrate some to have a hero token for the Trickster or Spriggan when they can't get the deck,... but I love that the spawning rules for all 6 monster types are in there as well as the quest items (I think) from the quest expansions.
2014/01/16 18:57:45
Subject: Re:MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
Watch it played preview unboxing - I must say it looks great!
and another game stuck in customs this time because a mix up with business and company names.
Project Update #92: The Darkness May Be Winning...
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The sleeves and metal coins arrive today. The first shipment of base games were supposed to arrive today as well. Unfortunately, the games are stuck in customs.
How? Why?
We asked ourselves these very same questions. There are things that are unforeseen and then are things that are so off the radar unknowable, when they pop up you are left wondering how this could have been prevented. In this case, we have decided we couldn't.
It seems the products were shipped under the name MegaCon Games. And, in the manufacturers defense, whey wouldn't they. That is what it says on the box. That is what is says on the address they are sending it to. However, all the paperwork, contracts, and invoices were very carefully put under the name MERCS Miniatures.
You see our company's name is MERCS Miniatures. We have a DBA (doing business as) name: MegaCon Games (and this started only a few months ago). Why does this matter? To be honest, we didn't know it did until early this week. Our shipper has power of attorney to grab MERCS Miniatures stuff from customs, and this is where you say.... Oh, I see!
And so we are busy trying to either show them the paperwork that MERCS Miniatures IS MegaCon Games, and at the same time creating PoA for our shipper for MegaCon Games. We'll move forward with whatever happens first. We don't expect the delay to be long.
I try to have a good attitude about these things, but sometime you just sit around and shake your head. We'll, of course, keep you posted.
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2014/01/16 19:36:21
Subject: MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter $924K - and done!
You're getting the base game box first- just like what's in that video.
All the extra crazy goodies come in the spring.
Unless you're in Europe and then you're stuck and get ALL of it in the spring as well.
ALSO- don't forget there's the MERCS kickstarter of some sort that is coming in the next month or so. There's rampant speculation on their forums as to what it will entail, but it's coming...
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
Sleeves, metal coins; plus lithographs, T-shirts, and battle foam inserts (for those that ordered them) will all be in the first domestic shipment along with the base game.
ALSO- don't forget there's the MERCS kickstarter of some sort that is coming in the next month or so. There's rampant speculation on their forums as to what it will entail, but it's coming...
Kenny at MegaCon indicated that while their MERCS KS was originally planned to launch in January; it will not start until they start shipping this first wave for MYTH.
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sheesh.
