MYTH (MERCS Minis) - Kickstarter 2 starts March 9!

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**Azazelx**

As the first Myth KS is winding down, we hope you feel your trust has not been misplaced. And we trust we’ll see you over in the Recon KS.

Unless you're an overseas backer, in which case, we'll ship you your stuff whenever.

**yamato**

Azazelx wrote:

As the first Myth KS is winding down, we hope you feel your trust has not been misplaced. And we trust we’ll see you over in the Recon KS.

Unless you're an overseas backer, in which case, we'll ship you your stuff whenever.

They indicated in the comments that none of this changes the April estimate for international backers.

**Alpharius**

Don't mind Azazelx - if he doesn't threaten to pull a pledge once a week he gets a bit ornery!

**Azazelx**

yamato wrote:
Azazelx wrote:

As the first Myth KS is winding down, we hope you feel your trust has not been misplaced. And we trust we’ll see you over in the Recon KS.

Unless you're an overseas backer, in which case, we'll ship you your stuff whenever.

They indicated in the comments that none of this changes the April estimate for international backers.

Except for the small print, that talks about June and July...

**yamato**

Azazelx wrote:
yamato wrote:
Azazelx wrote:

As the first Myth KS is winding down, we hope you feel your trust has not been misplaced. And we trust we’ll see you over in the Recon KS.

Unless you're an overseas backer, in which case, we'll ship you your stuff whenever.

They indicated in the comments that none of this changes the April estimate for international backers.

Except for the small print, that talks about June and July...

I must have missed that,..... Where did anyone say that?

**Azazelx**

In one of the updates there was some hurfblurf about "If we don't deliver by June/July (cant remember which) then we'll be willing to refund people." So additional delays have been foreshadowed for awhile.

And I keep thinking about the bs they spun about December delivery for the entire project, except "tax", so they held off. Now it turns out half of the stuff wasn't anywhere near ready at the time.

**lucasbuffalo**

Azazelx wrote:

And I keep thinking about the bs they spun about December delivery for the entire project, except "tax", so they held off. Now it turns out half of the stuff wasn't anywhere near ready at the time.

This is actually a good point. I had forgotten about that.

**Alpharius**

It is looking like the 'Tax Dodge' was just a plain ol' run of the mill 'Kickstarter Delivery Dodge'...

**yamato**

Alpharius wrote:
It is looking like the 'Tax Dodge' was just a plain ol' run of the mill 'Kickstarter Delivery Dodge'...

And what purpose could there have been to that?

There is no benefit to them saying they might deliver early and then not doing it,.... They did not mention it until after the KS was over,... So they weren't going after more pledges at that point. The implications of taxes are real, and I can not conjure up any reason to explain why missing a date that was never promised to begin with would have been beneficial to them at all.....they always said that "we hope to be able to",.... I can't see that as a dodge,..... Question what has gone on since,.... Fine,.... But questioning why they chose to revert to their original delivery plan??

That said: <redacted>,.... They would had to have paid taxes on the inventory on hand at the end of the year,... So they specifically planned to have the shipment arrive in January (yes, we know how that worked out), they had the game produced and shipped from China in December on purpose because of this.

**Alpharius**

Whoa!

You might want to cool your jets there - there's no call for borderline insulting talk here - we're just spitballing after all.

I know the Internet and Anonymity can be a bit of a testosterone booster but...

Anyway, call it whatever you like - but what I'd like is realistic shipping dates.

Maybe some companies used to think long lead times would scare off potential backers?

Who knows?

I'm curious to how we've gone from where we started out (late 2013) to where we are now (Sometime in Q2, most likely?).

**cincydooley**

I keep forgetting I have this and Arena Rex coming.....

**yamato**

I hope my reply didn't come out wrong,... I was not trying to be snarky. Just healthy debate.

Their original estimated date was Jan 14,.... So March (if that indeed is happening) does not seem that bad. November would have been super awesome though.

**Alpharius**

So worries!

And in the world of Kickstarters, if this thing ships out in March, only two months removed from the revised shipping date of November?

That will be pretty good!

**Azazelx**

yamato wrote:
I hope my reply didn't come out wrong,... I was not trying to be snarky. Just healthy debate.

Their original estimated date was Jan 14,.... So March (if that indeed is happening) does not seem that bad. November would have been super awesome though.

Kickstarter delays aren't the issue. The issue is that they said everything was ready and that Dec delivery was held off at their own request. Now it turns out that this was far from the truth - "We're splitting waves because a lot of the stuff isn't ready yet." Why did they feed us this bs? The hell if I know, but it was clearly bs, since they obviously weren't going to have it all ready in November, December or January....

**yamato**

The part you are missing is that they discussed delivering the base game early....

The reason to deliver it early in the US was because of space restrictions in their warehouse,.... The majority would have to be moved prior to receiving the stretch goal shipments from China,....

The base game was indeed ready to be produced to in that time frame, but then they made the tax decision,... So they put off the delivery to them from China to January. So the production schedule was delayed specifically to that time.

So the fact that everything was not ready is really a moot point,..... At least concerning you thinking that the tax delay is BS,.... The last wave of stretch goals was delayed for other indicated reasons,... Which is why the balance of shipments, including the euro shipments was delayed to April. That fact has no impact on what is happening with the base game shipments in the US.

The game got delayed,... Total fulfillment delayed until April,... But that is totally unrelated to the previous stated attempts to deliver the base game early and the circumstances that led to them deciding to hold off until January for that,... And the customs and transit issues that have now delayed that further.

**Azazelx**

I'm pretty sure they said the whole thing would be delivered early/was pushed back, not just the base. I don't have the updates to hand, but if I'm wrong, I'll take back my bitching. I don't recall any mention of wave shipping or international shipments being shunted to a single shipment at the very end - much later - until after things were pushed back, though - then again, I've not been getting all of the updates. If you're able to check, that might clear things up.

**yamato**

From the May 29th update last year:

Hold on to your butts, but we believe we can deliver the base game and certain other elements (t-shirts) early. We intend to do everything in our power to make this a reality. We are pushing hard to have production copies of the game into our warehouse in November. The stretch goals and add-ons will still be in January. No additional shipping cost will be charged to you. We'll continue to update you on the possibilities of an early delivery. We are not saying that a November delivery is a 100% certainty. It is a company goal.

They bolded that last sentence, not me.

As we got closer to January; they clarified that what was on hand to be shipped once the base games arrived would also be,.. Lithographs, card sleeves, metal figures, tokens, and coins, T-shirts, and Battle Foam inserts.

**usernamesareannoying**

any word on what the latest retail release date looks like?
is it still sometime this month?

**DaveC**

There was an update today - there was a bit about the birth of Keith's daughter and a baby picture whch I'll skip

As for the other delivery...the games didn’t make it into Indy last week. They seem to be part of the log jam coming out of Chicago. We are supposed to receive an update sometime today to discover if they made it out of Chicago and down to Indy over the weekend.

The metal coins and tokens are arriving today. This means the first shipment will have base game, stretch goal sleeves, metal coins, and t-shirts.

Both deliveries delay the Recon KS. We were hoping to launch it Wednesday. At this point, it would be foolish. I suspect it will slip to next week.

**Gymnogyps**

Another update today!

Update #96 from MYTH
Mar 7 2014

A Comitatus of the Willing

Fifteen stalwart friends formed ranks against the might of the first Myth container, ill-fated foe long awaited. The heroes, pressing forward, found their footing, quickly covering the ground with heavy game cases.

One container...

...floor stacked....

The Heroes!

Kenny, my dawgs!

Keith, my dawgs!

The first container arrived at 10:00. It held 3000 games; 1000 boxes. We had it unloaded in 80 minutes (we had two hours). It took another hour to organize the fillers and the floor stacked.

Let’s do some show and tell. This is what this half of the warehouse looked like before...

…and after.

This represents one-quarter of the total game order. The second container comes sometime Monday. We are going to work this weekend and get a feel for the orders and how many we can do in a day. By the time next week gets going, we want to be sending out 300-500 a day.

The last two containers are on the ocean.

Local Pickup

We are going to allow local pickup. If you are in the area and want to pick up the base game and various other accoutrement going out with the first order, please email mercs@mercsminis.com. Please put MYTH PICKUP as the subject line. Please include your name, order number, and the email associated with the order. Also, please bring an ID. We CANNOT give anyone an order without ID confirmation.

If you are planning on picking up the order, you must email us. If we have sent out your order before we have been notified, then you can’t pick it up.

Local pickup Monday/Wednesday/Friday from Noon to 7:00pm, and Tuesday/Thursday from Noon-5:00.

We are located at:

MegaCon Games
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Edit - correct image tag

**Ahtman**

Edit: Nevermind

**Gymnogyps**

If you're a backer, you can get the address in the update, or if not, email them.

Update #97

Mar 7 2014
Because of you...
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...a most sincere thank you!

We at MegaCon Games want to heartily thank all the backers that believed in us and the Myth project. We want to apologize that international backer are having to sit, watch, and wait with the most recent updates.

International backers orders are still holding onto their April time frame.

The First Order

Here is a picture of the first order put together containing the first copy of Myth from the first box of the 4101 we are receiving.
The first order.The first order.

What will we receive?

The boxes going out over the next ten or so days will contain the following pieces:

Myth
Metal Coins
Metal Hero Tokens
KS Exclusive Story Quests
Torchbearer
Stretch Goal Card Sleeves (not those you may have purchased extra)

If your pledge level calls for it (or you ordered these), you will also receive:

Signed Litho
t-shirts
Battle Foam inserts

We have all the metal figures in, but because we do not have the cards associated with them we are not putting them in this shipment.

Monday, March 10th is the first day people can pick up orders locally. We have already received numerous emails asking if people can come today. We simply need time to organize and situate our processes. Sorry

**cincydooley**

Now the question becomes, "Am I that impatient that I'll do local pickup...."

**Polonius**

cincydooley wrote:
Now the question becomes, "Am I that impatient that I'll do local pickup...."

I know I'm not. But I'm still working my way through painting Deadzone...

**cincydooley**

To be fair, I'm quite a bit closer than you are, Polonius. Only about an hour for me..... Hmm......

**Polonius**

cincydooley wrote:
To be fair, I'm quite a bit closer than you are, Polonius. Only about an hour for me..... Hmm......

I'm not sure I even want the game anymore. I pledged because my girlfriend at the time was interested in cooperative two player games we could try.

To give you an idea how long this has been, we've since broken up and I'm engaged to a different woman now!

**Ahtman**

I'll be picking mine up Monday.

**cincydooley**

Are you in Indy Ahtman?

Also, I'm a little confused as to what bonuses, etc will be available. If we do Local Pick up, are we getting everything from the KS, including add ons?

I know they mention it in the post, but it's still a bit unclear to me.

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Or is there supposed to be a second shipment?

**Alpharius**

There's definitely going to be a second shipment - and there's a LOT that is only going to go out then.

They must be taking a big hit on having to make two shipments to most people too...

**Ahtman**

cincydooley wrote:
Are you in Indy Ahtman?

Yar.