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I'm getting tired of 40k and my historical wargames. I'm looking for a good skirmish game. Is mordheim worth it?

YES. It is inexpensive and fun. Decent enough model ruins are easy to make with card, and if you play fantasy you already have a warband.

Wow! Somebody really likes mordheim

I only play 40k as my gw game.

I can easily pick up a warband though.

Gonna have to give it a spin

You could take a look at Coreheim which is a fan-updated version of Mordheim. That might help you know if you want to play the game without having to invest anything.

The gang building aspect and city exploration is neat, but I find the core mechanics play too much like 2nd edition era GW games.

If you're looking for a good skirmish game I'd suggest checking out Song of Blades and Heroes. Terrible cover art, but a good game They use a quality rating for troops and a very unique activation mechanic.

You could also look at Infinity, since that is super popular right now in skirmish circles. Not sure if you're looking just for fantasy/historical type games though.

Doesn't Infinity use Metallic single pose sculpts as opposed to posable plastic sprue, use the weapons from the list figures?

I guess you could use other figures from other games, but I have never enjoyed hobo gaming just using whatever when it comes to hobby gaming. Save that for Pen and Paper.

And please correct me if I'm wrong

I haven't bought an Infinity miniature before unfortunately so I can't confirm for sure. I'm not a big fan of the anime style figures.
From the pictures they appear to be single-pose per figure, but with multiple options in each kit. Just not multipart I don't think.
The scale is the same so dropping in 40k miniatures does work.

I was more recommending it because the rules themselves are pretty neat and feel a lot more "modern" and less out of date than some of the GW games. They have a free PDF available too which is nice.

Mordheim is awesome; also note that with some warbands (*cough*mercenaries*coughcough*) you can literally get one $25 box from GW and have sufficient conversion parts and models to run an entire starting warband.

The game itself isn't as balanced as it might be, but it's easy enough to houserule if you run into problems and I believe a fan patch called 'Coreheim' is a good solution if that's too much work.

I'm looking to run a pit-fighter warband. I'm excited to get some models. I have a birthday coming... and 2 boxes of those fighters is sounding like the perfect present lol. I have downloaded coreheim and all of the warbands from another fan site.

I am already on a Terrain frenzy.... but foam sadly makes poor buildings... metal models snap the foam... :(

Gotta get some card and green stuff and I'll be golden.

I already have 2 people interested in playing.

Anybody know where I can find some video battle reports, so I can ssee how the game looks aesthetically?

Mordheim is excellent! Hit up Tom's Boring Mordheim Forum for lots of inspiration.

i just had a player withdraw from our new mordheim group, I'm crushed. 2 players left :(
hopefully it catches on at our FLGS

These are the two sets of sprues that you used to get in the Mordheim starter box. Enough bits here to make some great warbands.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440085a&prodId=prod1040365

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440091a&prodId=prod20048

Also, you can get the rulebook from GW's website for free.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat480008a&categoryId=6700006a§ion=&aId=21500021a

I'm about to move to Ohio. You guys seem to have all sorts of gamers over there. Maybe a combo of the cold and you're not spread out.

I started Mordhiem with a box of Skave gutter runners.
That was (and is) my sole purchase for the game, and all I've ever needed.
I think my total outlay was £18vor so.

Necromunda I did with a box of Catachans.

If you do a few demos of Mordheim, it sells itself.

Taking a step from the big games, GW did a great job with all of their skirmish games. Morheim, Necromunda, Gorka Morka, and Blood Bowl are probably my favorite table top games. The whole campaign feel: Earning experience and getting skills for your team; Resource Management; and the decision making- when to push a fight and when to cut your losses.

If you make an effort to make a few terrain pieces, and maybe run a game or two even doing warbands vs zombies to show how the rules work, people will join in. I have run Blood Bowl a few times at my local store and offered a $20 gift certificate to the winner. (because the store can't really make $ on BB figs). The big attraction was having decent figures for the demo. Grey Plastic is a nail in the game attempts coffin.

You really get a lot from all these skirmish games for the $ you have to spend to get in. One time I did a Gorka Morka weekend. I picked up a variety of plastic vehicles at a Dollar Store, and supplied orks for players to use. We started on a Fri Night and played as many games as we could to Sunday. Sunday was playoff. Players were teamed up and the winner advanced. One of the funniest campaigns ever (maybe cause we were so tired).

Tom A Toe driving his vegetable cart won.

 aapch45 wrote:
I'm looking to run a pit-fighter warband. I'm excited to get some models. I have a birthday coming... and 2 boxes of those fighters is sounding like the perfect present lol. I have downloaded coreheim and all of the warbands from another fan site.

I am already on a Terrain frenzy.... but foam sadly makes poor buildings... metal models snap the foam... :(

Gotta get some card and green stuff and I'll be golden.

I already have 2 people interested in playing.

Anybody know where I can find some video battle reports, so I can ssee how the game looks aesthetically?

Terrain building for Mordheim is great, and as another guy posted, Tom's Boring Mordheim Forum has a lot of inspiration for your own terrain craft... if you dig around you can even find some templates of the original buildings, to re-make them. (You might be able to see some of these floating around ebay too.) The card buildings occasionally go up on eBay. I dropped $75 just to have the original blood on the streets set... I'm pretty crazy about Mordheim, I guess because when it originally came out I was pretty limited in terms of what I could get.

We did a battle report here...http://bladestorm-blog.blogspot.com/2012/08/mordheim-battle-report-marienburg-vs.html
It's not a video though, never thought to do a video until now. We still have a lot of work to do on our home terrain. I've been meaning to take some pictures at the Bowie Bunker, they made a really nice looking Mordheim table from current GW terrain kits.

Nice battle report Radical Edward! I'm a fan of the pictures + text vs video for battle reports, but maybe that's just me. The cobwebs on the old Mordheim terrain really add some atmosphere, whether they are intentional or not
Too bad you had to charge into the slings. Kind of felt like a scene from Zulu or something, haha. Especially when they hadn't moved so they got double fire (if I remember correctly).

One recommendation is to polish up that Mordheim terrain! I'd recommend painting the bases black, as well as the edges of the buildings (or maybe gray) - just to hide the white cardstock which is pretty stark. Maybe consider getting a black tablecloth to put down too. I think a couple small changes like that would really make the battlefield pop.

Hope to see more reports in the future.

Great game. theres also Empire in flames out there on the interwebs... free.

I play games with the Lustria setting every now and again.

Here's actually one of the things I like about WYSIWYG gaming as well.....it curbs a lot of power gaming!!! Most aren't as obsessed with optimizing their squads if they want to play for the cost of a single box of figures, which in tail let's OTHERS easily join in with a single box of figures and not stress having to spend $80 on bits and crap trying to arm all his (insert troop type here) with (insert weapon type here).

They are just great fun games to eat up spare bits!!

Its a long thread, but read through this for Mordheim inspiration.

http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=30667.0

I find Mordheim to be one of those games you can always go back to playing when you need a break from others.

It is always fun, and the idea of 'building' your heroes is just awesome to me.

My group still plays Mordheim from time to time, and we will never truly give it up.

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
I find Mordheim to be one of those games you can always go back to playing when you need a break from others.

It is always fun, and the idea of 'building' your heroes is just awesome to me.

My group still plays Mordheim from time to time, and we will never truly give it up.

And an excellent way to eat up bits if you got guys playing other fantasy games anyway. You can always use a good portion of your other figures as well. Skaven are probably the easiest to just grab and go with your WHFB pieces.

Mordheim is fun as long as you can find opponents to play against. The bonus is that the warbands are small enough that it is easy to either buy a few yourself to pull your friends into the game or to get a group and have everyone buy a single warband to start playing with. MUCH cheaper than buying into 40k of WHFB. Necromunda is also a good skirmish game if you like the sci fi side better. I prefer Necromunda myself so I converted my collection of Cult of the Possessed figures into extra models for my massive redemptionist force for Necromunda. If you want to play humans or skaven, do your best to scare up a copy of the original boxed set. The included figures are fantastic.

We love these skirmish games because we can setup two separate 4x4 battles on my main table and a smaller table where everyone would run small gun fight encounters for necromunda while waiting for their turn on the big table. 2 normal games going at once, while others were playing small side scenarios, and then 4 other players would hit the main table and so on. Enabled us to have as many people playing at once instead of two people playing a full game of 40k while everyone else waited and watched.

Skriker

 Skriker wrote:
If you want to play humans or skaven, do your best to scare up a copy of the original boxed set. The included figures are fantastic.

The humans from that set:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440091a&prodId=prod20048

The Skaven from that set:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440085a&prodId=prod1040365

This is a much cheaper option (normally) than trying to find a long OOP box set. Also, the rulebook and supplements are free on the GW website (for now, supposedly the specialist games section is going bye-bye).

Earth Dragon wrote:

 Farseer Faenyin wrote:
I find Mordheim to be one of those games you can always go back to playing when you need a break from others.

It is always fun, and the idea of 'building' your heroes is just awesome to me.

My group still plays Mordheim from time to time, and we will never truly give it up.

And an excellent way to eat up bits if you got guys playing other fantasy games anyway. You can always use a good portion of your other figures as well. Skaven are probably the easiest to just grab and go with your WHFB pieces.

Very true.

I also find that if you can agree to use them beforehand with your opponents (as GW SLIGHTLY offscaled them to avoid people using them across multiple platforms) you can use the LotR models. They are very good quality sculpts and can be used for many of the armies. I know I used the elves form LotR to make my Shadow Warriors because the GW Shadow Warriors look HORRIBLE.

 nolzur wrote:

 Skriker wrote:
If you want to play humans or skaven, do your best to scare up a copy of the original boxed set. The included figures are fantastic.

The humans from that set:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440091a&prodId=prod20048

The Skaven from that set:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440085a&prodId=prod1040365

This is a much cheaper option (normally) than trying to find a long OOP box set. Also, the rulebook and supplements are free on the GW website (for now, supposedly the specialist games section is going bye-bye).

And that would be fine if the only reason to buy the box was the figures. The biggest draw is the terrain pieces included in the boxed set. In fact the terrain was the absolute best reason to buy the game, but since the discussion at this point was figures I only mentioned the figs. Also with the existence of ebay it isn't as if there is really any hardship in finding a copy of the mordheim box with a minimum of effort. They also tend to go for much less than their listed price as well. So again not that hard *or* expensive an option. Buy the box and you have 2 warbands, a table's worth of terrain and anything else you need to play the game. QED. Also if the specialist game section actually goes away, finding stuff on ebay will kind of be a necessity...

Skriker

Skriker

As a side note...thanks to this thread...my group has started a Mordheim campaign.

Let's hear it for my Shadow Warriors!

Great game - just be sure to download the rules asap before GW decide to take them down.

Existing Fantasy minis are fine most warbands and terrain is very easy to make.

Probably the most cost effective way to enjoy Games Workshops products.

I am a big fan of Mordhiem and empire in flames. It’s a great game with great rules. I can say some of the hands down most fun I have ever had in gaming is playing Mordhiem.