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I wonder if the Chaos all-star team will have minotaur, ogre and troll models you can also use as star players?

Count me in to buy one of those! I only found out about bloodbowl because of the PC game and a friend of mine got so hooked, we are playing tabletop Bloodbowl pretty much every Saturday.

Actually, I think both of us would buy one of those boxes!

Edit: the only problem I see is a lack of dwarves and Khemri.

darrkespur wrote:
I wonder if the Chaos all-star team will have minotaur, ogre and troll models you can also use as star players?

Chaos dwarves had a minotaur and centaur (I had both models way back when)

Fantastic.

I will buy it if this is true!

I see the GW Bloodbowl box as a special, but not essential for keeping this game alive.
GW's sueing half the fan-websites couldn't stop a whole scene of high-quality non-GW products suitable for Bloodbowl games, esp. if the rules stay mostly the same. Here some spotlights:



















More here:
http://www.impactminiatures.com/
http://www.comixininos.com/
http://www.ff-fields.com/standard-fields/

Thread on non-GW Fantasy Football products: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/400021.page

chuxfm wrote:
Go on the games workshop website. They still support Blood Bowl. You can still buy the boxed game AND numerous teams and characters..

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I cant see any reason to moan about this I dont know why people are. A new box for a niche/cult game that deserves to have new life breathed, which GW STILL stock, is a good thing IMO.

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 Harriticus wrote:
I find it extremely unlikely GW would acknowledge the existence of specialist games.

They have a specialist section on the website.

You must not have been into GW before the last few years. They certainly do sell the product, but that's it.

GW used to have a massive online worldwide community of Blood Bowl players, with official tournaments and leagues, with monthly support, monthly magazine, an official living rulebook, new test rules, new teams, new players, annual published updates. It was amazing - the glory days of Blood Bowl. What exists now is almost a mockery of what they used to do.

That's why I feel a standalone box game limited release is almost a slap in the face. They will release it as a cash grab, but they will not support it, especially as it'll probably be a limited edition and sell out just like Space Hulk did -- another game that used to be supported with multiple expansions, new rules, new scenarios in White Dwarf; now relegated to a limited box release and then no support.

I'm interested.

But I don't know if I'll buy it.

 kronk wrote:
I'm interested.

But I don't know if I'll buy it.

I'm in the same boat. I love Blood Bowl but I already have my teams, coaches, star players, cheerleaders, and fans. I already know the 3rd edition/living rules by heart.
I'm very nervous that the rules will be some sort of simplified game-in-a-box style system. In which case I will ignore those (as will the rest of the worldwide BB community), so I'm looking at maybe a new pitch (assuming the same dimensions, very important!) and some cool plastic figs but for teams I don't play.

And I have too many games that don't get any attention as it is.

While a supported game would be great, I have no great complaint with a standalone release, especially if there's four teams in the box with sufficiently different play styles.

I envisage a pick up and play type game where you can play with your favourite team or challenge yourself with one you struggle with.

Chess never gets any support, but I play that all the time.

Bloodbowl is cool and all, but I can't help wonder what amazing things they could do with a Necromunda release using today's plastic technology...

Guys......I can't stress enough to give company's that are making games in the same genre a go. If you played Mantic's specialty games, or Infinity, or whatever other skirmish games you see, GW will go back to supporting those games.

Don't just complain about your lazy girl friend who just yells at you. Start working out and flirting with other chicks, and if she doesn't get her act together, can her ass.

Earth Dragon wrote:
Don't just complain about your lazy girl friend who just yells at you. Start working out and flirting with other chicks, and if she doesn't get her act together, can her ass.

I always love how girlfriends are used as a metaphor for GW.

GW has no obligation to support a game with official tournaments/supplements. The reason they probably stopped in the first was a decline in interest.

There are still leagues and tournaments for the game even now and I don't think you can hammer GW for throwing an air freshener into a musty old room.

It's just en vogue to blast GW for anything that they do nowadays even if it is making a limited release for a game that people know and love.

chuxfm wrote:
GW has no obligation to support a game with official tournaments/supplements. The reason they probably stopped in the first was a decline in interest.

There are still leagues and tournaments for the game even now and I don't think you can hammer GW for throwing an air freshener into a musty old room.

It's just en vogue to blast GW for anything that they do nowadays even if it is making a limited release for a game that people know and love.

You definitely are new to GW. They didn't stop due to a decline in interest, they stopped due to a corporate decision to pretend the internet doesn't exist. To be fair, when overnight GW shut down all specialist support and sent their lawyers to every single fansite (and even boardgamegeek) with cease-and-desist takedown notices, that's kinda when it became vogue to blast GW for being gakky to the specialist games community.

A community that didn't just disappear (though we should have all stopped after that nonsense). See, the room isn't musty, at all. GW has ignored their own specialist games for so long that everyone else has been supporting them, and Blood Bowl (and Epic) are the big ones.

Will GW release a new Blood Bowl? Probably, they need a quick cash grab after the last few quarters, just like they've been dropping licenses left and right. Will it use the living rulebook, the same field dimensions, templates, team stats, etc? Probably not - it'll probably resemble Blood Bowl as much as Dreadfleet resembled Man O War. Will it be limited? Yup, Will it be supported after one release? Probably not.

Prove me wrong, GW - release a new updated Blood Bowl written by Jervis Johnson after months of playtesting with the big Blood Bowl leagues, with rules refinements written in the living rulebook, with great new sculpts and at least quarterly product releases. PLEASE prove me wrong. It's one of GW's greatest games and the worldwide BB community has had a half-dozen years of poor treatment by GW. BB leagues around the world have been converting to Dreadball in droves - this is a shining opportunity to make Blood Bowl a supported game again and bring it back into the spotlight. That remains to be seen, but does anyone have any actual hope it being more than a quick cash grab?

chuxfm wrote:
GW has no obligation to support a game with official tournaments/supplements. The reason they probably stopped in the first was a decline in interest.

There are still leagues and tournaments for the game even now and I don't think you can hammer GW for throwing an air freshener into a musty old room.

It's just en vogue to blast GW for anything that they do nowadays even if it is making a limited release for a game that people know and love.

You're right. they have no obligation. But they have a magazine that could have scenarios, new teams, and variant settings for the specialty games. If they did it right, most of the sculpts/figures could also double-up with their other games (blood bowl is the only one that couldn't match up). It seems like they could manage it a little better. Is it easier to get into a game with your gaming group for $40 or for $100+? Specialty games offer a cheaper option to get people into hobby gaming before they go for the mega army games.

Earth Dragon wrote:
Considering the amount of stuff they throw into their main games for $100, I really don't see how 4 teams or 12 or so models would blast the price past $100. You get more then 48 guys in their Fantasy Starter set

Two words:


Limited
Edition

@insaniak - You could be right....

I will refuse to buy one if it is more then $100 (unless I buy one and resell later. that I might do, but it won't get opened)

Well those rumours would make me very happy indeed. The final four of a tournament sounds a like an excellent compromise actually, much better than the feared Order vs Destruction teams I thought we might end up with.

Would need to see them before I know if I would be after more than one box, individuality through out the four teams would be great, but It seems pointless to pick them up if say the Human team is the Riekland Reavers and Zug, Griff etc are plainly the main players.

Going on the rumour along with the Chaos All Stars I'd guess.. Riekland Reavers, The Gouged Eye and the Elfheim Eagles?

Orkland Raiders maybe

I bought 3rd edition blood bowl when it came out. I'm not new to games workshop ive been playing GW games on and off for over a decade.

Yes white Dwarf used to be better. But still if Blood Bowl still sold when right through the 00's they would continue to support it with articles and new mini's. It didn't continue to sell in volumes so they kept it in its current state for anyone who still enjoys it to be able to play. Fan run leagues still it alive along among a hardcore group.

chuxfm wrote:
I bought 3rd edition blood bowl when it came out. I'm not new to games workshop ive been playing GW games on and off for over a decade.

Yes white Dwarf used to be better. But still if Blood Bowl still sold when right through the 00's they would continue to support it with articles and new mini's. It didn't continue to sell in volumes so they kept it in its current state for anyone who still enjoys it to be able to play. Fan run leagues still it alive along among a hardcore group.

My question is how were so many fan sights able to offer product for the game and gamesworkshop had to go out and sue them while they claim they can't make a profit? Either let it die and let the fans do what they want or support the freakin' game. GW wants it both ways and THAT'S what is annoying about the way they do business.

Support it, or let us support your specialty games ourselves

Earth Dragon wrote:
Orkland Raiders maybe

Its possible, although I can't see them having a team focused around Grishnak, when it could be Varag.

Earth Dragon wrote:
My question is how were so many fan sights able to offer product for the game and gamesworkshop had to go out and sue them while they claim they can't make a profit? Either let it die and let the fans do what they want or support the freakin' game. GW wants it both ways and THAT'S what is annoying about the way they do business.

Support it, or let us support your specialty games ourselves

Thats fair enough. All in all I just hope the box gets released it'll be a blast.

I'll pass on BB. Bring back SC or necromunda or inquisitor.

 Flashman wrote:
While a supported game would be great, I have no great complaint with a standalone release, especially if there's four teams in the box with sufficiently different play styles.

I envisage a pick up and play type game where you can play with your favourite team or challenge yourself with one you struggle with.

Chess never gets any support, but I play that all the time.

Alessio just released some expansions for chess.

If this is released, I'll buy it. I'd prefer Warhammer Quest, since I don't have that while I have piles of BB stuff, but I'll buy it nonetheless.

I’d much prefer a re-done Quest – imagine what they could do with current plastic technology? It’d be glorious – but I’d happily take a new BB box with four included teams, new pitch and all that stuff.

Might give me a reason to get out my Orcs and Lizardmen teams. Or my Goblins. Or my model-deficient Humans.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I’d much prefer a re-done Quest – imagine what they could do with current plastic technology? It’d be glorious

Totally.

I'd love that, an adventure board game like that, that I can have on the coffee table and play with friends after dinner for a couple of hours. That would be idea.

I really just wish they'd turn it over to FFG or someone to produce so they can do several expansions of dungeon tiles and adventures. Perhaps just do it with cut out counters and give people the chance to replace them with minis to paint up if they want. I'd certainly splurge for the game and new minis.

I'd LOVE a redone Warhammer Quest. As long as they fix the d6 magic points/wandering monster mechanic. I've spent too many hours fighting through literally dozens of wandering monsters jammed tightly into corridors due to a few bad rolls...