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 reds8n wrote:

This Wednesday, we open a new chapter in The Horus Heresy. 'Scars' is coming...

.. hmm.. serialised eh ? !
Guessing there'll be a collected edition at some point or other.

May 2014:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Scars-Horus-Heresy-Chris-Wraight/dp/1849706042/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1375728772&sr=1-1

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http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/scars-episode-i-ebook.html



THE STORY
Of all the Legiones Astartes, the White Scars of Jaghatai Khan remain the most enigmatic and elusive. Born of a civilisation that prizes honour, speed and fearsome loyalty, their allegiance has yet remained unclear even as the galaxy is torn apart by Horus’s treachery, and both sides have apparently counted them among their potential allies in the war to come. But when the Alpha Legion launch an unexplained and simultaneous attack against the White Scars and Space Wolves, the Khan must decide once and for all whether he will stand with the Emperor or the Warmaster... or neither.

The exciting story begins in this first eBook episode of an all-new novel by Chris Wraight.

ABOUT THIS EDITION
A serialised Horus Heresy novel by Chris Wraight. A new episode every week for twelve weeks.



.. hmmm ...

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So this is kind of like what they tried to do in Hammer and Bolter? In that they serialise the book chapter by chapter for those that want to get it, before releasing the full book at the end?

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 reds8n wrote:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/scars-episode-i-ebook.html



THE STORY
Of all the Legiones Astartes, the White Scars of Jaghatai Khan remain the most enigmatic and elusive. Born of a civilisation that prizes honour, speed and fearsome loyalty, their allegiance has yet remained unclear even as the galaxy is torn apart by Horus’s treachery, and both sides have apparently counted them among their potential allies in the war to come. But when the Alpha Legion launch an unexplained and simultaneous attack against the White Scars and Space Wolves, the Khan must decide once and for all whether he will stand with the Emperor or the Warmaster... or neither.

The exciting story begins in this first eBook episode of an all-new novel by Chris Wraight.

ABOUT THIS EDITION
A serialised Horus Heresy novel by Chris Wraight. A new episode every week for twelve weeks.



.. hmmm ...


Interesting, so this would coincide with the Wolf and the Khan story from Collected Visions

Not so interesting it the serialised novel thing ...

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So, two quid per chapter then? Cha-ching!



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That.. sounds even worse than novellas.

Actually maybe a little better, at least there will be a final product that's decent sized but what is the point of this? Who wants to sit down and read a chapter at a time? Why do BL seem so intent of moving away from actual novels?

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
 
   
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 jonolikespie wrote:
That.. sounds even worse than novellas.

Actually maybe a little better, at least there will be a final product that's decent sized but what is the point of this? Who wants to sit down and read a chapter at a time? Why do BL seem so intent of moving away from actual novels?


To give you something to read maybe, since they have decided to do the whole hard back to paperback thing I am not reading as much BL as they would like me to. This way you can buy a chapter a week, that's 12 weeks of reading and then maybe another one week when you can read the whole thing in it's entirety!

Thanks BL! it'll make the abyss of not being able to read new Heresy books a lot less painful.

Wait a minute ... ebooks .... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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We're over that hump with the hardback thing, at least for HH, AE landed a few weeks ago, Betrayer is out next month.

It was only the gap from the first HB release to the MMPB edition that caused a delay, us MMPB fans will now be on a similar schedule, but about two books behind.

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 azreal13 wrote:
We're over that hump with the hardback thing, at least for HH, AE landed a few weeks ago, Betrayer is out next month.

It was only the gap from the first HB release to the MMPB edition that caused a delay, us MMPB fans will now be on a similar schedule, but about two books behind.


But then it's Mark of Calth and that'll be another long wait .. won't it?

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Doubt it, the trade PB is already available. Perhaps a few months but nothing like we've just experienced.

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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

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 azreal13 wrote:
Doubt it, the trade PB is already available. Perhaps a few months but nothing like we've just experienced.


Oh, praise the Dark Gods!

In that case then this idea of 12 chapters a week is more stupid than ever, EVA !!!

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First part just went on-line for €2,99, that times twelve means €35,88 for a digital novel! Yeah, I think I'll sit this one out.



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 BrookM wrote:
First part just went on-line for €2,99, that times twelve means €35,88 for a digital novel! Yeah, I think I'll sit this one out.


But, but, but....!

No, I got nothing.

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 azreal13 wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
First part just went on-line for €2,99, that times twelve means €35,88 for a digital novel! Yeah, I think I'll sit this one out.


But, but, but....!

No, I got nothing.
I'm sure someone can spin this as "GREAT NEWS" bit in form of a bad joke.



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 BrookM wrote:
 azreal13 wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
First part just went on-line for €2,99, that times twelve means €35,88 for a digital novel! Yeah, I think I'll sit this one out.


But, but, but....!

No, I got nothing.
I'm sure someone can spin this as "GREAT NEWS" bit in form of a bad joke.


This is great news, it makes the hardback price tag seem reasonable

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
 
   
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True, if I were to buy this hardback I'd save a whopping €0,88!



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Maybe it gets cheaper as it goes a long and they end up giving you the final complete one for free ...

Or like car insurance, you pay a big deposit and then 9 subsequent cheaper payments of x, maybe this is new Black Library book insurance and after the 12 weeks you have to renew your book reading policy to be able to read the book. I should stop typing now just in case I am giving someone from BL ideas ...

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Wait, I thought hardbacks were €25?

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
 
   
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They are? Great news, they are ripping us off even harder then!



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While on holiday I had the chance to read Skarsnick and Siege of Castellax and I was pretty surprised as I'd been expecting to really enjoy Siege of Castellax and I wasn't expecting much from Skarsnick. But it turned out to be the other way round Siege of Castellax just didn't seem to get there, it didn't get across the idea that the IW know everything there is to know about siege warfare and it just felt wet. However the author did do a pretty good job on the sections based on humans. In the end however it felt like a bit of a chore finishing. Skarsnick on the other hand was a great read, Guy Haley did a great job on getting across both the cruel sadistic side of the goblins and also the fun side. One of the downsides for both of these books was the ending like a lot of BL books both felt like they had been rushed. (The epilogue for the Siege of Castellax was pretty good and as a Chaos player put a smile on my face.)

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I realize that we're in New Fluff territory now, but:

Of all the Legiones Astartes, the White Scars of Jaghatai Khan remain the most enigmatic and elusive.


Really?

And I kind of liked that in the past, the White Scars were loyal without a doubt, and were one of the main defenders of Terra when it all went down there.

I think the authors need to stop dirtying up every Legion just for the Grimdark of it.



   
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That's why the AL are attacking them don't want someone stealing their title.

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 Alpharius wrote:
I realize that we're in New Fluff territory now, but:

Of all the Legiones Astartes, the White Scars of Jaghatai Khan remain the most enigmatic and elusive.


Really?

And I kind of liked that in the past, the White Scars were loyal without a doubt, and were one of the main defenders of Terra when it all went down there.

I think the authors need to stop dirtying up every Legion just for the Grimdark of it.


Agreed.

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
 
   
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How far are they going to push this milking the crap out of us? :( I feel sorry for the authors tbh.
   
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I was pretty prepared to like the Serialized HH novel. I actually really like serialization; it's like reading a TV show every week.

But $2.99 per chapter, with 12 chapters, is really pushing it. And I own all the limited novellas....

They should have done them for $1.99 a piece, with the option to purchase a "serial subscription" for like, $15-20 bucks. I'd have been sold on that.

I'm not sold on paying $36 bucks though.

Blah.

 
   
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They could have even done a subscription where you get the novel or a big discount on the novel at the end.
   
 
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