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2013/04/04 18:43:20
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 d-usa wrote: kronk wrote:I want that Lords of Mars book. Mechanicum + Black Templars? Yay!
Did you read Priests of Mars?
No. I read HH:Mechanicum and was bored, though. 
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2013/04/04 18:45:16
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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That, one of the Gaunt's Ghosts' series and .. Trollslayer ( Gotrek and Felix) are all getting a new reprint, imagine something akin to the Penguin Classics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_Classics
but for BL books and you're on the right lines.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/04/04 18:46:33
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Fixture of Dakka
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I could understand this for one-off books. But... Wouldn't most people just buy the darned omnibus?
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2013/04/04 19:03:28
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Solahma
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I have been reading Priests of Mars on and off for a while now. It's very typical McNeill, uneven but more positive than negative.
Now, can someone remind me whether we know if BL is doing all the HH books again in hardcover or just on a going forward basis excepting the first four?
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2013/04/05 01:40:28
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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 Manchu wrote:I have been reading Priests of Mars on and off for a while now. It's very typical McNeill, uneven but more positive than negative.
Now, can someone remind me whether we know if BL is doing all the HH books again in hardcover or just on a going forward basis excepting the first four?
Yes, they will be re releasing them all in Hard cover format eventually.
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2013/04/05 09:18:24
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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 Compel wrote:I could understand this for one-off books. But... Wouldn't most people just buy the darned omnibus?
GW fans might.
Or they, or random book buying person with an interest in sci-fi/fantasy might be tempted to pick up a single book... which might well lead them onto buying the rest in the series, most of which are available in handy dandy omnibus editions.
YMMv of course.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/04/05 09:28:06
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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kronk wrote: d-usa wrote: kronk wrote:I want that Lords of Mars book. Mechanicum + Black Templars? Yay!
Did you read Priests of Mars?
No. I read HH:Mechanicum and was bored, though.
I think you'd enjoy Priests of Mars. Great mix of Mechanicum, Black Templars and Guard. It still might be hardcover only. I wouldn't mind sending you over my copy if you wanna give it a read and ship it back.
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2013/04/05 09:37:12
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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 Alpharius wrote: Pacific wrote:
I was really into this series before, and they've lost me. I'm not quite sure what their intent is, or the logic behind it, but I certainly can't see it.
Pretty much this!
And me!
All these little ebooks and stuff coming out are annoying as well, I've got no idea whats going on now.
Maybe they are trying to do their bit to save the rainforest in the long term, you know, annoy people so much they give up and decide to buy an ereader.
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2013/04/05 11:48:12
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Morphing Obliterator
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reds8n wrote: Compel wrote:I could understand this for one-off books. But... Wouldn't most people just buy the darned omnibus?
GW fans might.
Or they, or random book buying person with an interest in sci-fi/fantasy might be tempted to pick up a single book... which might well lead them onto buying the rest in the series, most of which are available in handy dandy omnibus editions.
YMMv of course.
Except for the fact that the reprint cost more than the actual omnibus.
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2013/04/05 14:07:52
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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People are more likely to commit to reading a single length story or tale than a massive trilogy that they're coming into "blind".
This evening sees the launch of the latest collectors HH book
http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/corax-soulforge.html
on sale for , IIRC, 1 week, so no immediate rush... which helps the servers somewhat eh ?
Mr. Thorpe has penned a few brief thoughts on the tale on his blog
: https://mechanicalhamster.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/we-need-to-talk-about-corax/
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/04/05 14:30:38
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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So, more self-indulgent boredom-inducement then. Sorry Raven Guard fans, but if Thorpe's going to be responsible for advancing their part in the Heresy, I'd rather Corax go mad sooner than later.
Plus: BL seem to have misunderstood how the whole "collector edition" thing works - you make a special limited edition of a normal general release product. Making large sections of the story you're trying to tell unavailable to the majority of your readership just breeds resentment and costs you sales in the long run - why should I bother to keep up with a series that I will never be allowed to have complete knowledge of? Collector editions are supposed to be for people who enjoy collecting unique and limited objects, they are not meant to gate content. The fact that they are gating content based on consumer income is just the icing on the dog-turd.
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2013/04/05 14:32:44
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Solahma
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I doubt these novellas will remain unavailable forever.
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2013/04/05 14:36:31
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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They've said they won't. Dark King and Lightning Tower have showed up in showed up in one of the collected novels. I believe promethean sun is going to be in one of the upcoming books.
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2013/04/05 14:45:03
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Indeed.
They're format exclusive for a while....2 years at one point IIRC, one assumes this is more or less the case.
And after that they can/will be reprinted in some form or other.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/04/05 14:54:00
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Morphing Obliterator
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I wonder if the amount of sales will go back up with the decrease back down to £30.00?
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2013/04/05 17:08:16
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Manchu wrote:I doubt these novellas will remain unavailable forever.
No, but combined with the long wait for mass market paperbacks, they won't be available until the average customers has completely lost interest and forgotten about the HH.
Heck, I'm pretty much already there. If I even remember Angel Exterminatus or that ADB Grey Knights novel by the time they are MMPB, I will be shocked. And good luck finding those in a BandN by then.
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2013/04/05 17:42:47
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote: Manchu wrote:I doubt these novellas will remain unavailable forever.
No, but combined with the long wait for mass market paperbacks, they won't be available until the average customers has completely lost interest and forgotten about the HH.
Heck, I'm pretty much already there. If I even remember Angel Exterminatus or that ADB Grey Knights novel by the time they are MMPB, I will be shocked. And good luck finding those in a BandN by then.
I saw both Angel Exterminatus and Betrayer in the larger paperback format yesterday. Not regretting leaving without either purchase at all by I might try and pick up.. that one about Sanguinius again 
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 Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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2013/04/05 17:49:58
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Old Sourpuss
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My FLGS has gotten in the most recent HH books, and I seem to be the only one buying them... he commented on the fact that I hadn't grabbed Betrayer my last time in the shop... I said that the larger book sizes didn't sit right with me and didn't fit on the shelf with the rest of their HH brethren... It kind of sucks, but I probably won't be picking them up until the smaller sizes are released.
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2013/04/05 21:34:26
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Lol sorry about that 
I was only implying that BL have a cash cow, and that I can't see them ever laying it to rest.
Seriously, HH books will become family heirlooms, and one day (in the far future, where there is only....  WAR ) our descendants will one day throw street parties in celebration of the series end. They'll have t shirts made up (in limited time runs, that cost £30 each) that say "I was there, the day that Black Library finally had the Emperor kill Horus".
Never meant to freak you out pal 
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2013/04/05 21:37:52
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Haha! I wasn't actually freaked out (although the laughing bit was true), don't worry.
I'd like it if they got some of the newer, but seemingly talented, authors to help speed up the HH series: like John French, Rob Sanders and Chris Wraight (although the latter's doing the Scars, eventually).
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"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
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2013/04/05 22:03:34
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Not sure that I've read any of their stuff... Chris Wraight sounds familiar though can't think of any of his books.
Would love to see Jordan Ellinger do some 40k work, he did a short story for gotrek and felix which was amazing and has been commissioned for two more pieces. Would love to see what he could do with the heresy
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2013/04/08 20:07:00
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Been Around the Block
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Pardon good fellows~
Seems that BL has snuck yet ANOTHER Tau novel ebook onto their site.
"The Patient Hunter" by Joe Parrino.
I *just* grabbed it, so no reviews yet - but it seems to be 'from the Tau perspective', AND 'starring' a lone Riptide pilot against an entire AdMech *ARMORED BATTALION*.
This should be good!
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2013/04/08 20:56:01
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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A novel about a Riptide pilot?!?
Synergy baby!!! 
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2013/04/08 21:03:27
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Spoiler: he arrives 2 to 3 weeks after the battle and annihilates the local friendlies.
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2013/04/08 21:45:41
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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How many pages on average are those downloadable 3 GBP stories?
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2013/04/08 22:00:03
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Been Around the Block
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Don't know about average - but "Patient Hunter" is 17 pages on my iphone's Nook (and has 5 pages more of legalese).
"Sanctuary of Wyrms" by Peter Fehervari is ~22 pages of readable material, according to my Ipad's Nook.
"Out Caste", also by Peter Fehervari is 6 pages of readable material, according to my Ipad's Nook.
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2013/04/08 22:09:50
Subject: Re:Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A thanks. Those are the ones I am most interested in.
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2013/04/10 03:20:11
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So how long till they release the newer HH books in the mass market paperback size. Its annoying as hell the sizing difference and I refuse to go back and re-buy the books I have just so they are all consistent on the book shelf. I just want the books in the original release size for appearances, ocd I know
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2013/04/10 04:29:14
Subject: Black Library News & Rumours Thread IV, in obligatory unwanted 3-D!
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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 mjl7atlas wrote:So how long till they release the newer HH books in the mass market paperback size. Its annoying as hell the sizing difference and I refuse to go back and re-buy the books I have just so they are all consistent on the book shelf. I just want the books in the original release size for appearances, ocd I know
If its OCD then your in good company, as most people here seem to be in agreement. Too bad GW and black library don check the forums o see the comments.
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I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
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2013/04/10 05:47:46
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Theophony wrote: mjl7atlas wrote:So how long till they release the newer HH books in the mass market paperback size. Its annoying as hell the sizing difference and I refuse to go back and re-buy the books I have just so they are all consistent on the book shelf. I just want the books in the original release size for appearances, ocd I know
If its OCD then your in good company, as most people here seem to be in agreement. Too bad GW and black library don check the forums o see the comments.
Yep.
Betrayer and Angle Exterminus (or whatever it was called) are in the larger paperback format so I guess they can't be too far off. Also it's funny seeing the shelves filled with them (and more than a couple hardbacks of each) when the latest HH books used to never be in stock unless you went down the day they arrived.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
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