15 injured in Texas college attack

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**daedalus**

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Man, I can't wait until they finally get these guns out of the hands of crazy people.

(CNN) -- At least 15 people were injured in a stabbing incident Tuesday morning at Lone Star College's CyFair campus in the Houston area, according to Robert Rasa, spokesman for the CyFair Volunteer Fire Department.

Authorities have detained one suspect at the campus in Cypress, Texas -- so far the only suspect at this point, a sheriff's spokesman told reporters Tuesday afternoon.

The school was on lockdown Tuesday afternoon while authorities combed the campus to ensure no other injured people or attackers were there, Harris County sheriff's spokesman Alan Bernstein said.

It wasn't clear whether all of the injured people were stabbed, Bernstein said.

"It's possible other people were running away" and became injured that way, Bernstein said.

Four people were taken to a hospital by helicopter, authorities said. The conditions of the victims weren't immediately available.

The four flown to a hospital "were in a dire enough situation that they were taken out on helicopters," Bernstein said.

Bernstein said it will take time for authorities to go through the campus and "make sure there (is) not another suspect or suspects."

"I do believe the confrontation was limited to a few (classrooms) or just one classroom -- not anybody roaming around and getting into a large number of areas," Bernstein said.

Details about what led to the incident weren't immediately released.

"Stay away from the area. Seek shelter in a secure location until the incident is resolved," the school posted on its website.

Tuesday's incident comes more than two months after three people were wounded in a shooting at a different Lone Star College campus -- the North Harris campus in Houston.

Oh, wait.

**kronk**

Jesus. They just had a shooting at the other Lone Star College campus a while back.

(I see that is referenced in the last line, now).

**daedalus**

Yeah, Texas seems to have had a bad run as of late.

Anything in particular about Lone Star that would explain this? Like, is it renown for being a stressful school to get through?

**kronk**

Honestly, I had never heard of it before the first event, and I've lived in Houston for 15 years...

It's a community college, so I can't see it as being any more stressful to get through than another community college.

edit: It's possible I have heard of them in my 15 years here, but I never made a connection with them and Houston. Also, I rarely watch the news as I get my information from Dakka Dakka!

2nd Edit: I texted my teacher GF here in Houston, in case she has former students there. Her reply "How do you stab 15 people in public? How dumb are those other 14 people?"

I honestly have no answer to that!

**Frazzled**

daedalus wrote:
Yeah, Texas seems to have had a bad run as of late.

Anything in particular about Lone Star that would explain this? Like, is it renown for being a stressful school to get through?

Its a school where the most "nontraditional" of "nontraditional" college students go. (EDITed, the comment about the stadium is deleted as I maybe thinking of another school)

EDIT AGAIN yea this was the school. I used to live there in ancient times and moved further out into the sticks and seemingly back in time after that. Yea, it has this massive stadium for what is effectively a high sized campus. Its kind of a third tier community college system.

I thought UH was bad, at least it was only the off campus people trying to sneak into the parking lots and rob/mug/assault you. We didn't stab each other.
If only one of those students was a ninja or even justa flying monkey, all that could have been avoided.

**Grey Templar**

Are we even sure the suspect was a student? Nothing I've seen has identified him yet.

**kronk**

There are 4 or 5 campuses, from what a quick google map search reveals. 2 are not in great areas of town, 2 look like they're out in the sticks, and one is in the middle of The Woodlands, which isn't exactly a high crime area. :-)

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Grey Templar wrote:
Are we even sure the suspect was a student? Nothing I've seen has identified him yet.

The previous incident was a student. But I haven't heard about today's suspect, so he could have been a crazy that walked onto campus.

**Breotan**

In Colorado, Massachusetts, and New York they "baned" high-capacity magazines so that rampages like this wouldn't happen. Stupid "gun show loophole" that allows criminals to buy these deadly knives without a background check...

**Kilkrazy**

daedalus wrote:
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Man, I can't wait until they finally get these guns out of the hands of crazy people.

(CNN) -- At least 15 people were injured in a stabbing incident Tuesday morning at Lone Star College's CyFair campus in the Houston area, according to Robert Rasa, spokesman for the CyFair Volunteer Fire Department.
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Tuesday's incident comes more than two months after three people were wounded in a shooting at a different Lone Star College campus -- the North Harris campus in Houston.

Oh, wait.

How do you stab someone with a gun?

**Frazzled**

These must be forenners or even DamnYankees. No self respecting Texan would just stab someone. Thats too lightweight, unless we were on the back of a longhorn at the time.

**Grey Templar**

We need to ban high capacity knives, they're killing our children!

**Hordini**

Kilkrazy wrote:
daedalus wrote:
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Man, I can't wait until they finally get these guns out of the hands of crazy people.

(CNN) -- At least 15 people were injured in a stabbing incident Tuesday morning at Lone Star College's CyFair campus in the Houston area, according to Robert Rasa, spokesman for the CyFair Volunteer Fire Department.
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Tuesday's incident comes more than two months after three people were wounded in a shooting at a different Lone Star College campus -- the North Harris campus in Houston.

Oh, wait.

How do you stab someone with a gun?

You put a bayonet on it, obviously!

**Alfndrate**

Hordini beat me to it...

Also there was a thread in the DCM Mosh Pit of a "gun designer" in which several of our esteemed Dakkanauts made a picture of a gun that shot knives...

**Frazzled**

Grey Templar wrote:
We need to ban high capacity knives, they're killing our children!

There's no reason people should have access to military style assault knives for hunting or sporting uses.

**Hordini**

Grey Templar wrote:
Are we even sure the suspect was a student? Nothing I've seen has identified him yet.

CNN is now reporting that the suspect in custody is a student.

**Easy E**

So, if the attacker had used a semi-auto pistol would the attack have been worse, same, or less dangerous?

I guess we will never know for sure, but we can all speculate quietly to ourselves.

**Alfndrate**

In Texas? Probably less... As soon as a gun was whipped out, it would have been a 1 on 1 shootout as a tumbleweed rolled across the road...

But to be serious, you're right we won't know.

**Grey Templar**

Given that this guy managed to get 14 people with just a knife and thats pretty high compared to most shootings its hard to tell. About the same probably.

A gun going off also does give away whats happening, its hard to tell just by sound if someone got stabbed. But everyone within earshot will hear the gun go off.

**Hordini**

Easy E wrote:
So, if the attacker had used a semi-auto pistol would the attack have been worse, same, or less dangerous?

I guess we will never know for sure, but we can all speculate quietly to ourselves.

If one of the victims had had a semi-auto pistol it probably would have been less dangerous. Unless the person with the pistol was potential victim number 16, then it probably would have been the same.

**Easy E**

@Grey Templar- That is a great point.

**daedalus**

Hordini wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:
daedalus wrote:
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How do you stab someone with a gun?

You put a bayonet on it, obviously!

Or you google "gunsword". I'd go with the bayonet, myself.

I was also being snarky with the original gun comment.

**KalashnikovMarine**

i heard the Lonestar shooting was gang related, not a "fething psychopath" incident.

As to this we should ban assault knives immediately. Also wonder if this could have happened if Texas had legal CCW on their campus.

**daedalus**

Why stop there?

I demand a knife handle registry.

**Kilkrazy**

Grey Templar wrote:
Given that this guy managed to get 14 people with just a knife and thats pretty high compared to most shootings its hard to tell. About the same probably.

A gun going off also does give away whats happening, its hard to tell just by sound if someone got stabbed. But everyone within earshot will hear the gun go off.

Is anyone dead?

**Grey Templar**

daedalus wrote:
Why stop there?

I demand a knife handle registry.

So if I remove the grip from my KA-BAR its no longer a knife right?

Remind me to switch the handles of all my Assault Knifes to kitchen knife grips. I can probably get some designer colors too

**daedalus**

Kilkrazy wrote:

Is anyone dead?

Not yet. Critical condition implies the unfortunate possibility though.

You contrast this with the mere 3 people wounded (and also not dead, I might add) from the shooting, and the argument that "bad guys" will shoot more people than they can stab starts to slip a little.

**Grey Templar**

Kilkrazy wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:
Given that this guy managed to get 14 people with just a knife and thats pretty high compared to most shootings its hard to tell. About the same probably.

A gun going off also does give away whats happening, its hard to tell just by sound if someone got stabbed. But everyone within earshot will hear the gun go off.

Is anyone dead?

Not yet anyway. We don't know the status of the 4 people that got airlifted in critical condition. Airlifting people out is never a good sign.

A knife can be more dangerous than a gun for any number of reasons. especially with injury. More potential bleeding for one, depending on the exact circumstances.

**Squigsquasher**

Peh, who cares about knives? I worry about the presence of lethal assault screwdrivers on our streets!

In all seriousness...Oh no, not AGAIN. There seems to be a bit of a pattern emerging here.

**Frazzled**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
i heard the Lonestar shooting was gang related, not a "fething psychopath" incident.

As to this we should ban assault knives immediately. Also wonder if this could have happened if Texas had legal CCW on their campus.

I think the important question is, where any barbeque sandwiches harmed in the incident?

I can say with some authority that, law or no, if someone breaks out a knife on campus, there will be lots of gunplay. Many night student were heavily armed due to the robberies that were going on when I was there (I have an alibi! hey someone has to supplement their income somehow).

**Grey Templar**

Frazzled wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
i heard the Lonestar shooting was gang related, not a "fething psychopath" incident.

As to this we should ban assault knives immediately. Also wonder if this could have happened if Texas had legal CCW on their campus.

I think the important question is, where any barbeque sandwiches harmed in the incident?

I can say with some authority that, law or no, if someone breaks out a knife on campus, there will be lots of gunplay. Many night student were heavily armed due to the robberies that were going on when I was there (I have an alibi! hey someone has to supplement their income somehow).

Not sure thats an Alibi Fraz, more like a confession.