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So according to the Lexicanum, there have been RUMORS that the Daemon Primarchs are to make a return in the 42nd millennium. So if they were to return to join in Abbaddon's current Black Crusade (and quite possibly take charge of it) I'm sure they would make the Loyalist Primarchs return. How do you think would each Primarch would come back? I'm guessing during the worst of times for their Chapters, or maybe as soon as the Daemon Primarchs make their appearance.

This could also spell the beginning of the end of the fluff? It doesn't seem like a good move from GW if so. I've mentioned before that it may be a good way for GW to go out with a bang if they go bankrupt or something. Idk just a thought, don't go crazy on me like on my last thread.

GW is not going to kill their moneymaker

Couple of daemon primarchs might come out of EoT, sure, but thats not so bad. Mr. Überwolf Ragnar has had his time with Magnus, for example, and he gave him redeye So there might be some massive fights on apocalyptic scale coming up, but nothing fluff-ending, and definately no loyal primarchs creeping out of the woodwork.

But, if GW was going bankrupt, it would be cool idea. Empy, all primarchs, all chaos gods, old fluff c'tans and all other nice guys come to earth, one epic battle, and whole universe implodes upon itself. Eldar die off from psychic shock, necrons just decide to go back to sleep, tyranids dont have anything to nom so they leave for another galaxy... After that, only Tau floating around in dead space, wondering what the gak happened

Yeah a few Daemon prince primarks coming back isn't going to end the world, I don't no how well they stack up in power against someone like Ka'Bahnda (or however you spell it), but Sanguinor already spent him back to the warp, as have the Grey Knights.

This is a rather long, but surprisingly good speculation on the End Times. Tau fans may go berserk if they read this though.

I do think it would be a good way to go out with a bang, there's already a set up for some Primarchs to come back:
Lion el'Jonson - Fully healed, just napping now.
Jaghatai Khan - In the Webway, rumoured to be a DE play thing, with the Eldar species all busy at the end time, he could escape.
Leman Russ - Returning for the Wolf Time, which is the End Time.
Rogal Dorn - Rumoured to be dead, some rumour he's okay. We'll see.
Sanguinius - Physically dead, Sanguinor is rumoured to be his spiritual reincarnation, he could reveal himself, unlikely, but hey.
Ferrus Manus - Dead.
Roboute Guilliman - In stasis, rumoured to be healing, could stand up any day, could stay dead forever.
Vulkan - Coming back when the Salamanders find all his relics.
Corax - Flew off to the EoT, open for return sometime.

The primarchs are not coming back in game, ever. Threads wishing for them to come back appear about one per week though.

He just asked that if they did come back, what would be the circumstances. It's a purely speculative conversation. Yes everyone here knows it won't happen, but that's no reason to turn off your imagination and stop wondering about the what ifs in a game that is 90% imagination.

The "End Times" probably come slowly and over a long period. We're probably in it now in terms of evolving 40K fluff.

Astronomican slowly dims as the Emperor weakens. Far-flung planets and military forces get "stranded" or are forced to risk blind travel through the warp... or stay and get annihilated.

The true end comes as xenos and chaos forces make bigger and bigger moves, deeper and deeper into Imperium space... towards Terra.

When it gets bad enough, perhaps 1 or 2 primarchs come back. Leman Russ and Corax are excellent candidates as the ones who come back because their fluff naturally lends itself to a return. Though Guilliman would make the biggest impact given the proliferation of Ultramarines successors.

Is GW in danger of closinmg down or something?

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
He just asked that if they did come back, what would be the circumstances. It's a purely speculative conversation. Yes everyone here knows it won't happen, but that's no reason to turn off your imagination and stop wondering about the what ifs in a game that is 90% imagination.

It won't happen because of this :

 DarthMarko wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
He just asked that if they did come back, what would be the circumstances. It's a purely speculative conversation. Yes everyone here knows it won't happen, but that's no reason to turn off your imagination and stop wondering about the what ifs in a game that is 90% imagination.

It won't happen because of this :

And what does that have to do with it? This isn't a discussion about why it won't happen, no one is saying that it will happen.

In regards to Samuel Buca's listing of potential primarchs:

I was under the impression that Dorn is "quite dead" since the Imperial Fists chapter masters inscribe their names upon his skeletal fists and the remainder of his skeleton is metal plated.

I think it would be amazing to see some of the primarchs possibly return, however I don't think they would be as big of game changers as some may think. The daemon primarchs are quite possibly more powerful then the normal primarchs ever were, and yet they are still held at bay. If Russ comes back though, I really want Magnus to light him on fire

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:

 DarthMarko wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
He just asked that if they did come back, what would be the circumstances. It's a purely speculative conversation. Yes everyone here knows it won't happen, but that's no reason to turn off your imagination and stop wondering about the what ifs in a game that is 90% imagination.

And what does that have to do with it? This isn't a discussion about why it won't happen, no one is saying that it will happen.

I know dude, just pointing the facts which are causing me so much pain lately (concerning BL)..

GreyChaos wrote:In regards to Samuel Buca's listing of potential primarchs:

I was under the impression that Dorn is "quite dead" since the Imperial Fists chapter masters inscribe their names upon his skeletal fists and the remainder of his skeleton is metal plated.

I think it would be amazing to see some of the primarchs possibly return, however I don't think they would be as big of game changers as some may think. The daemon primarchs are quite possibly more powerful then the normal primarchs ever were, and yet they are still held at bay. If Russ comes back though, I really want Magnus to light him on fire

There's conflicting material about Dorn, some say he's dead, some say he lost a hand, there are staunch believers on both sides of the camp.

DarthMarko wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:

 DarthMarko wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
He just asked that if they did come back, what would be the circumstances. It's a purely speculative conversation. Yes everyone here knows it won't happen, but that's no reason to turn off your imagination and stop wondering about the what ifs in a game that is 90% imagination.

And what does that have to do with it? This isn't a discussion about why it won't happen, no one is saying that it will happen.

I know dude, just pointing the facts which are causing me so much pain lately (concerning BL)..

Fair do's then man, no worries, sorry if I came across as a phallic organ.

 Admiral Valerian wrote:
This is a rather long, but surprisingly good speculation on the End Times. Tau fans may go berserk if they read this though.

Here's another, this one much less optimistic. Let's just say the war of Octarius yielded way worse results than anybody expected.

1068SCP wrote:

 Admiral Valerian wrote:
This is a rather long, but surprisingly good speculation on the End Times. Tau fans may go berserk if they read this though.

Here's another, this one much less optimistic. Let's just say the war of Octarius yielded way worse results than anybody expected.

This is a chilling piece. I enjoyed it thoroughly... even if it is the worst case scenario for those of us still loyal to the Emperor.

Only Corax is needed though, he's the most awesome of them all

I'd like to see Ezekiel "derpy derp" Abaddon try and outwit Corvus Corax! If he could take command over his Raven Guard again and all successors they could rip his crusade to pieces! ....Spoken like a true fanboy!