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So you missed the

1/285th scale, high quality, multi-pose plastic game pieces.

that was under every description in the kickstarter. Emphasis mine.

Justyn wrote:
So you missed the

1/285th scale, high quality, multi-pose plastic game pieces.

that was under every description in the kickstarter. Emphasis mine.

I didn't really miss it. That doesn't really mean anything.



This is a "high quality" multi pose game piece. Unfortunately every pose is extremely static.

Companies always say everything is High quality. It doesn't mean anything. Hell Finecast was supposed to be the greatest thing since...well ever. We all know how that turned out!

They have more dynamic battle pods now. Also we just cleared the $220k mark meaning we'll get 4 extra destroids.

$220,000 STRETCH GOAL

UPGRADE: Once we reach $220,000 the Destroid Pack will be DOUBLED in size. In addition, every pack will come with enough parts to make all four game pieces any combination of Tomahawks and/or Defenders.

This upgrade will be received by any backer who has pledged for the Destroid Pack Add-on.

Cypher-xv wrote:
They have more dynamic battle pods now. Also we just cleared the $220k mark meaning we'll get 4 extra destroids.

No, you get 2 Extra Destroids....... if you buy the $20 Add-on pack of the first set of Destroids. I expect another stretch of the same kind for the other Destroid pack later on.

Next Stretch...... Special Dice!

Again, it's an OK upgrade, but nothing too special.

If you read the comments section, others are starting to complain about weak stretch goals and possibly lowering their Pledge.

This could go south real fast if they don't step up their game.

Hmmm....this does have me tempted.

TalonZahn wrote:

Cypher-xv wrote:
They have more dynamic battle pods now. Also we just cleared the $220k mark meaning we'll get 4 extra destroids.

No, you get 2 Extra Destroids....... if you buy the $20 Add-on pack of the first set of Destroids. I expect another stretch of the same kind for the other Destroid pack later on.

Next Stretch...... Special Dice!

Again, it's an OK upgrade, but nothing too special.

If you read the comments section, others are starting to complain about weak stretch goals and possibly lowering their Pledge.

This could go south real fast if they don't step up their game.

Ha, yeah, cause there's nothing worse than when the complainers drop out...
It's way too early to be complaining about add ons.

No way this one goes south, almost no matter what.

Nostaglia Wave - all consuming!

Plus, OK look miniatures!

Plus - have you seen how much it has already made?

People may back out (myself included!), but this one will go down as one of the most successful mini Kickstarters to date.

There is still a month left. Plenty of time for new models and for them to add diversity to the game. If you are iffy about it then take a wait and see approach.

I don't think there is much chance of it going south like Thon as people aren't complaining in general about the core set but rather the stretch goals (if they're complaining at all). All of the freebie stretches have added value to the core game so far and they have to keep some of the "good" stuff for the last few days. That means we'll have some mediocre but still valueable goals in between in that somewhat awkward 28 middle days.

 Alpharius wrote:
Nostaglia Wave - all consuming!

Plus, OK look miniatures!

Plus - have you seen how much it has already made?

I agree with all 3 of these facts, but this one's progress is still rather shocking to me . I'm wondering if they'll release some posed renders to show that things can be posed more dynamically (or not). Also, thanks for the thoughts on that for those who responded to my question a few pages ago.

It will be interesting to see if it can sustain it's progress...

Sustain the rise of the first day? Incredibly unlikely. I think we'll just see a relative dribble each day (10k per day instead of the 100+ in the first day) until the last few days. I will say that the initial rate of increase surprised me in its scope as well as its brevity. When I saw the pledges skyrocketing up unexpectedly (I had expected a fast rise but not THAT fast), I did think it would continue for 2-3 days and not necessarily end in roughly 24 hours.

An interesting side note is that the new stretch goal appears to be for EVERY core set ($70+) and not just the previous $130+ level pledge minimum from my reading.

Joyboozer wrote:
Ha, yeah, cause there's nothing worse than when the complainers drop out...
It's way too early to be complaining about add ons.

Oh look, it's this type of response again.

Again, for like the 4th time in this thread... all I'm saying is they could be doing something a little better or perhaps something more. Maybe they will down the line, maybe they won't.

The dice aren't bad, it's an OK/nice upgrade, but it's not some earth-shaking Stretch that's going to drive a wave of cash.

By "go south" that's what I meant. If they want to ride the nostalgia wave or the "it's miniatures!" wave, they need to do that by producing those things. Dice aren't nostalgic or miniatures and half the miniature stretch goals are paid add-ons.

If people are asking for a M.A.C. or character minis, they are basically saying "Take all my money, and here's how!"

Then they wouldn't have to settle for a 10k a day dribble.

I think he means the major complainers on the Kickstarter comments who are threatening to lower their pledges or drop out.

Yeah the dice effect everyone who is getting a starter, usually goals that improve dice/cards and such are of everyone.

I wonder if there will Zentraedii dice to replace the other 12.

TalonZahn wrote:

Then they wouldn't have to settle for a 10k a day dribble.

I suspect a lot of kickstarters would love to have a 10k a day dribble. I do agree with some of your other points but think they need to space the "good" freebies and add ons out over the 30 days. This campaign feels a bit more purposely thought out and measured in its stretch goals than other earlier ones last year like mantic where people got tons and tons of freebies in a frenzy. Of course, a side effect of trying not to give out too much too quickly may be that pledges don't spend too much too quickly.


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UN Test Pilot wrote:
I think he means the major complainers on the Kickstarter comments who are threatening to lower their pledges or drop out.

Yeah the dice effect everyone who is getting a starter, usually goals that improve dice/cards and such are of everyone.

I wonder if there will Zentraedii dice to replace the other 12.

I thought the base dice were zentraedi dice but I could be wrong. I zoomed in on the video and they looked to have a zentraedi V symbol as one of the facings.

Maybe they're happy with 10k a day dribble.
The purpose of the kickstarter was to fund the game, which they did on the first day. Why is there an automatic assumption they need to do any more than that?
Also I should clarify, I didn't mean anyone here, it's the kickstarter extremists I was referring to.

 warboss wrote:
This campaign feels a bit more purposely thought out and measured in its stretch goals than other earlier ones last year like mantic where people got tons and tons of freebies in a frenzy.

I can't agree more.

That's the only thing I can come up with when trying to figure out their pacing and stretches. I may not want to do a dance of joy every time a Stretch is revealed, but at least it look like they have some sort of plan.

An interesting observation in the general comments regarding a post in the update #10 comments. The Rick Hunter Add-On just went from a battloid to all three modes. That adds a lot of perceived value to that particular add on for me.

@Talon: I'm right there with you but I'm in for the length of the campaign. That said, despite my interest, I have no problem dropping down to the $70/80 level + cool add ons (FPA, MACII, Rick Hunter) instead of the $130/140 level if the freebies don't pan out. I just won't make that decision until the last 2 days or so.

Joyboozer wrote:
Maybe they're happy with 10k a day dribble.
The purpose of the kickstarter was to fund the game, which they did on the first day. Why is there an automatic assumption they need to do any more than that?
Also I should clarify, I didn't mean anyone here, it's the kickstarter extremists I was referring to.

Businesses exist to make money. Better stretch goals mean more money.
With this license its essentially printing money. They could make significantly more by doing more attractive stretches.

Short term yes, but which sells more long term? The core game or a fancy add on?

Joyboozer wrote:
Short term yes, but which sells more long term? The core game or a fancy add on?

The fancy add-on.

It turns into the sustaining miniature line AFTER the Kickstarter.

Once people have the Core set, they want more toys to go with it.

You don't keep buying the X-Wing core set. You buy all the hot ships they release afterwards.

[Edit] Also, a lot of the Core sets out there for games are loss leaders. They don't make as much profit on them as they do the individual sculpts. They drag you to the buffet with a great Core set deal, and then take you to the cleaners at the dessert-bar.

From Palladium, They will be ABS plastic so you can use super glue or plastic glue.

But you already got all your add ons in the kickstarter, there's nothing more to buy.

Joyboozer wrote:
But you already got all your add ons in the kickstarter, there's nothing more to buy.

You think this Kickstarter is all you'll ever see of this game or these miniatures?

They are launching a game and miniature line. There will be more stuff once it goes to print, that isn't from, or in, this KS.

This is to fund it. As such, the people funding it should get good deals for front-loading them with funds to get this going. I mean, it's kind of the entire point of KS.

These stretches and add-ons will be in "a store near you" after this is all said and done. Those "fancy add-ons" are what will sustain this game once it goes to the shelf.

sorry if this is off topic, but I've never really heard of Robotech before (it was before my time) and I was wondering if there will be any other factions in this game other than the earth one and the current alien one? I really just want a nice mech game more than I want a Robotech game, but if this is going to be a full on wargame with more than two factions I think I may be in.

 yeri wrote:
sorry if this is off topic, but I've never really heard of Robotech before (it was before my time) and I was wondering if there will be any other factions in this game other than the earth one and the current alien one? I really just want a nice mech game more than I want a Robotech game, but if this is going to be a full on wargame with more than two factions I think I may be in.

Since Palladium has said they do eventually want to cover all three eras of the cartoon, there will effectively be 6 factions in all likelihood. The Robotech Cartoon was a Frankenstein's monster conglomeration of 3 different Japanese anime series that were combined into one story arc. "Earth" has three separate and completely different looking (but related) armies to fight the three different alien armies attacking them. There are some minor factions that were introduced in the RPG and novels (like EBSIS... left over eastern European communists) but I doubt they'll make it into the minis game (or even if they exist in the rereleased RPG). If you're simply out for a mech game, I'd wait until you see some gameplay video uploads before deciding if you don't have 80's nostalgia for the IP.

TalonZahn wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
But you already got all your add ons in the kickstarter, there's nothing more to buy.

You think this Kickstarter is all you'll ever see of this game or these miniatures?

They are launching a game and miniature line. There will be more stuff once it goes to print, that isn't from, or in, this KS.

This is to fund it. As such, the people funding it should get good deals for front-loading them with funds to get this going. I mean, it's kind of the entire point of KS.

These stretches and add-ons will be in "a store near you" after this is all said and done. Those "fancy add-ons" are what will sustain this game once it goes to the shelf.

So what happens when, because of all the extras they've added, the release schedule gets blown way out and they can't sell the product retail until its all sorted?

I got this response on Destroids poses
Creator Palladium Books 1 minute ago
We are still locking down the poses for the Destroids, we are looking to make them dynamic with a solid degree of customization. As soon as we have them locked down we will post pictures, similar to how we updated the Regult Battlepod pics.

A bit early to go to the 'special dice' thing, but at least it is out of the way now.

I've got enough dice to last me... forever!

 Ironwill13791 wrote:
There is still a month left. Plenty of time for new models and for them to add diversity to the game. If you are iffy about it then take a wait and see approach.

At this point Im holding out, theres another kickstarter coming soon Im trying to hold funds for...however, if they start adding Invid...Ill probably be in pretty quick.