Robotech Kickstarter Funded at $1.44 Million!

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**sqir666**

Man, I really hope ya'll are wrong. If PB does get stuff to retail before we get our stuff I'm pretty sure a mob will form outside their offices.

**Bagombo**

If it makes anyone here feel better, here is a question I pm'd PB yesterday and the response I got today:

Question

Hi Jeff:

Can you confirm the shipping timelines for KS backers vs tailers for me? As an example, I intend to order at least one of every model that was unlocked in the KS. Will I get all or any of those models before retailers?

Thanks!

Answer

Hi,

Our plan is to have everything in the kickstarter sent to the backers before anything hits retail.

Have fun with that pile of game pieces!

Thanks.

Jeff Burke
Palladium Books

Edit: I just now realized that I wrote "tailers" in there. Not sure if that comes across as some kind of hip new slang, or something dirtier... Oh well.

**Forar**

I got the same answer for the same question.

Hopefully we can finally put this "omg they might not ship until after all the waves!" worry to bed.

I mean, aside from those who are still waiting for PB to trip and fall down the stairs or something. Yes, the whole company. All 4 of them or whatever it is. >.>

**Red Comet**

Well that's a relief. I have no frame of reference for Paladium Books so I'm sorry if I added too much to the fire. I just want to know that my money as a consumer is going to a company that deserves it (somewhat).

**Forar**

Well, a healthy sense of skepticism isn't a bad thing when it comes to PB. Their owner is notorious for getting super excited / enthusiastic about things, promising the moon and falling far short (as in, massive delays, unrealistic release goals (these go hand in hand), etc).

Luckily, Ninja Division is shouldering some of the burden, and it seems to be helping, but we're still quite early in the process (in theory).

Basically, it's a middle point I find myself occupying most often, a place of cautious optimism and reigned in expectations.

**combat engineer**

Afternoon all. If one was to pick up terrain buildings for this game, what size would you look at?

Mat

**Kid_Kyoto**

Has anyone gotten their survey? I got a request for my address but no chance to pick out my upgrades.

**rigeld2**

Yeah, that's the only thing that's gone out.

**Forar**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Has anyone gotten their survey? I got a request for my address but no chance to pick out my upgrades.

That is the survey, anticlimactic as it is.

The Pledge Manager that's supposed to follow soon (in theory, sometime in the next few days, maybe a week'ish, from what they've said?) will be the place we specify our add ons, including extra boxes/artwork/etc.

**warboss**

Not to worry, they're working 14 hours a day 8 days a week and you'll love it! The palladium groundskeeper can't stop raving about how awesome the experiemental battlepod sprue extras are. /sarcasm.

**Forar**

Updated with some info;

http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=674%3Apalladium-booksr-weekly-update-july-13-2013&catid=52%3Aweekly-updates&Itemid=183

UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™ – Pledge Manager

As SOON as we get the majority of the Survey responses back, Palladium will send you an invitation to the Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Pledge Manager. In the Pledge Manager you will be able to select all the Add-Ons you wanted and even be able to purchase additional Add-Ons! That’s right, you can purchase as many additional Add-Ons as your heart desires in any quantity.

For your information:

When we ship to our Kickstarter supporters – ALL Kickstarter items and Add-Ons will be shipped at the same time.
Kickstarter Backerss will get these items BEFORE they are sold retail.
Only the initial releases (see below) will arrive in the retail packaging. MANY of the items made available to Kickstarter Backers – like the Monster, Ghost and others – will not be made available on the retail market for months down the road. Expansion Packs will be released in waves over time. Our Kickstarter supporters, however, get them right away! That means many of these “advance” Kickstarter items will not come in the retail packaging, but simple bags.

UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™ – Tactical Battle Game – Coming Fall 2013

This product is in final development. Most of the sculpts are finished and approved by the I.P. holder Harmony Gold. The rules and rule book have been written, edited, approved and are going into layout next week. Product packaging designs are next. Advertising and promotion has already begun.

The Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Box Set has everything you need to get started, with the many expansion packs containing 4-6 game pieces allowing you to build and improve your armies.

Highlights Include:

1/285th scale, high quality, multi-pose plastic game pieces (40mm to 70mm tall). World-class sculpts from sculptors around the world.
Game rules use D6.
Turn-based system of play.
Scalable from small squad skirmishes to mass battles. Can accommodate two to several players.
Combat is fast and designed to emulate the anime action.
Measuring tape required to determine targets and distance.
Release Date: Barring any unexpected delays, the Robotech® RPG Tactics™ box game and initial expansion sets ship Autumn 2013 (November?).
$90 retail price (tentative). The price of the final box set is not yet determined, but we want to hold it around $90.
Cat. No. 55100 (Main Boxed Game).
UPDATE: The First Six Robotech® Expansion Packs

The initial expansion packs will also ship in the Fall. All prices listed are likely, but still tentative. We want most packs to fall in the $25-$35 price range.

UEDF Valkyrie Wing (2x each, Fighter, Guardian, Battloid) – Cat. No. 55201 – $30.00 retail (tentative).
UEDF Destroid Pack (2x Tomahawks, 2x Defenders) – Cat. No. 55202 – $30.00 (tentative).
UEDF Spartan Pack (2x Spartans, 2x Phalanxes), Cat. No. 55203 – $30.00 (tentative).
Zentraedi Regult Battlepod Squadron (6x Regults) – Cat. No. 55401 – $30.00 (tentative).
Zentraedi Support Battlepods (4x Artillery Battlepods) – Cat. No. 55402 – $30.00 (tentative).
Zentraedi Command Pack (1x Glaug, 1x Quel-Regult, 1x Quel-Gulnau) – Cat. No. 55403 – $35.00 (tentative).
Additional expansion packs at intervals throughout 2014. More will follow. Exactly how many, and how fast, will depend on manufacturing considerations, sales and customer demand.
Palladium plans to release the mecha and settings for ALL eras of Robotech®. Many other details are still in development.
Tournament play support is planned. Ninja Division will help Palladium to develop and launch the program sometime in 2014.
UPDATE: UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™ – Limited Gen Con Exclusives at Booth #1025 – Palladium Books.

There will be two Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Gen Con Indy Convention Exclusives – Max Sterling’s Valkyrie in Battloid Mode and Myria’s Power Armor – available for purchase. We had hoped to offer more, but it looks like we will only be able to offer 125 of both, each morning, on a first-come, first-served basis. Because of the limited number, customers will be limited to ONE (OF EACH), per person, EVERY MORNING. These are different poses than what was available in the Kickstarter and are resin castings.

We “may” try to make these figures available later on in the Palladium online store, but no promises. The Gen Con exclusives are a way to give gamers who may have missed the Kickstarter an opportunity to get something special too.

We sure hope the Kickstarter Backers know we value and appreciate your support. That’s why you have a multitude of add-ons and Purchase Add-Ons available via the Kickstarter. Many of which will not be made available for retail for quite some time. You special guys and gals in the forefront of this new product line will be the very first to get a ton of the Robotech® game pieces we have planned. And you will love the many advance and special items you’ll be getting. Game on!

Long story short; we will be getting our boxes before retail, and they will contain everything at once, before later waves.

The MSRPs we got before appear to have been accurate.

The last bit about Max and the KS backers falls flat though. "You guys are awesome and we love you and you totally hooked us up and get access to all kinds of amazing stuff!"

Right. Still don't see how that precludes you from giving us the option to snag them as well, or why they felt the need to specifically ignore putting a Max figure in the campaign and then use him for Gencon (if they're willing to do 2 of Miriya, clearly they could've given us 2 Max's).

Eh. They were hot and heavy with KS updates, they really should be putting this out that way as well, but hey, at least it's something.

**deleted20250424**

So that's what 375 of each at GenCon and it may never be available again outside of Cons, but no numbers for other Cons.

So it should sell for about $100 on EBay.

P.S. FU PB.

**Cyporiean**

TalonZahn wrote:
So that's what 375 of each at GenCon and it may never be available again outside of Cons, but no numbers for other Cons.

So it should sell for about $100 on EBay.

P.S. FU PB.

500 of each, Gen Con is 4 Days.

**deleted20250424**

Cyporiean wrote:
500 of each, Gen Con is 4 Days.

Excellent, 1 for every 10 Backers.

What time do the doors open and will Kevin be there?

I'm looking at my work schedule right now and I'm 10 hours away.

I want to make sure it's worth the drive and paying a hobo to hold first place in line at the door.

**Cyporiean**

TalonZahn wrote:
Cyporiean wrote:
500 of each, Gen Con is 4 Days.

Excellent, 1 for every 10 Backers.

What time do the doors open and will Kevin be there?

I'm looking at my work schedule right now and I'm 10 hours away.

I want to make sure it's worth the drive and paying a hobo to hold first place in line at the door.

10am to 6pm on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. 10am to 4pm on Sunday. VIGs/Press can get in at 9 or 9:30 on Thursday.

No idea if Kevin will be there.

there are usually a few entrances to the hall, you can see a map here: http://files.gencon.com/2013.sm.exhibitors.map.pdf
PB is at booth 1025, next to Wyrd and Fantasy Flight, and appears to be a straight shot from the Hall I entrance.

**wilycoyote**

Living over here it is mildy disappointing that there is no chance of picking these exclusives up except via Evil Bay.

However, unless you are a completist what are you actually missing, a single uniquely posed resin Valk and a FPA. Given the multi pose possibilities of the plastic models and the the Valk at least is generic apart from its colour scheme, is it that much of a deal?

My concern is to get my pledge fulfilled somewhere around the end of the year. If it drifts from there to somewhere mid 2014 then I will start to get peeved.

**Talizvar**

combat engineer wrote:
Afternoon all. If one was to pick up terrain buildings for this game, what size would you look at?
Mat

You fell into my cunning trap! If you look at the link in my sig EVERYTHING I could find for 6mm scale terrain is there.

Subject: Robotech Tactics Terrain: A 6mm comprehensive list (Battletech and Epic 40k as well)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/531655.page

There is a "cityscape" package that is scaled at 10mm which is VERY inexpensive and you could print out buildings to the proper scale (if you are a stickler) while using the base tiles.

If you find anything else not listed, please contribute and add to it.

**combat engineer**

Gamecraft is awesome!

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Gamecraft is awesome!

**Forar**

So, any bets on the odds that one can read between the lines on them saying there 'may be ways for people who missed the campaign to join in' and having Gencon exclusives and the fact the Pledge Manager is supposed to be a month long and is supposed to come out in the next few days?

To be clear, if they hope to draw in attention at Gencon, and make it possible to join the Pledge Manager, and the Pledge Manager doesn't end until after Gencon is over, that'd all be awfully convenient, wouldn't it?

**ThaneCawdor**

And those GenCon people would be able to pickup Max & Mirya, but those of us who already ponied out money wouldnt be able too... sounds like the Palladium thing to do

**Forar**

Well, we are getting a Miriya already, though I know that does little to placate the hardcore collectors who want to catch 'em all.

According to their FB profile, there will be a retail version of Max as well, but unless it comes out a month after the boxes go to retail, I can't see myself bothering, since I'll probably just paint up one from the VT's I get. Getting one along with the rest of my stuff was part of the point.

And if nothing else, I remain annoyed that they had fans arguing for 4 weeks about this crap before they bothered to say anything.

**warboss**

They still haven't bothered to say anything on the actual kickstarter for fear that even more people will realize they're getting excluded right after pocketing their money. Only the hardcore fans that follow the Kickstarter *outside* of the kickstarter through the various independent and company run forums and announcements know about the "not for backers" figures.

**Forar**

Which is really frustrating because every time someone chimes in about it, you get a half dozen people mocking and belittling their opinion.

Like, yeah, I get it, some people have gone on about this for over a month. But if the word "Max" gets you into 'point and laugh mode', I can't imagine it's going to end anytime soon as more and more people find out about it in the coming weeks and go looking for more info/answers.

There's at least two on the comments and 1 on the PB forums who seem to be more interested in making their b***s feel big than doing anything helpful.

Though I've gotta say, throwing the MSRPs in that one guy's face felt really, really good.

**warboss**

The funny thing is the same dozen or so posters keep belittling the *NEW* people who come in to post their feelings (usually negative) and at the same time tell them that they're just a tiny minority. The overwhelming (but admittedly subjective) response by both post count and number of individual posters was negative and I suspect that the response from the 95% of people who don't check the comments would likely be the same. Yeah, I've seen you sparring with the same canadian guy both on the KS comments and the PB boards where he goes out of his way to insult everyone personally. If he didn't have such apparent local knowledge of the canadian game store scene, I would have sworn he was a dummy account for Akashic after his dramatic "Goodbye, cruel world!" supposedly final post.

**Forar**

The best part was that when things started, I hadn't gotten around to updating my location yet.

"Oh, really? Funny, I'm in the same town, HOW AWESOME FOR YOUR SUPPOSED FUTURE STORE!"

Edit: for clarity, I'm not insinuating other than that I'd be happy to talk smack about the owner's simply astounding attitude and service oriented approach to communications to any and every gamer in the area I know.

**UN Test Pilot**

For anyone interested I looked at the Rifter #63 sneak peak and it has a ton of sculpts for Robotech here's the link for anyone interested its on Drivethru RPG.
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/116986/The-Rifter-%2363-Sneak-Preview

**deleted20250424**

UN Test Pilot wrote:
For anyone interested I looked at the Rifter #63 sneak peak and it has a ton of sculpts for Robotech here's the link for anyone interested its on Drivethru RPG.
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/116986/The-Rifter-%2363-Sneak-Preview

Nice find there.

Lots of good pics.

**Kendachi**

I agree with comments from the KS that these images should have been in a KS update first.

They look fine, though. I like the Spartan with mace.

**Forar**

For those who don't read the little 'update/press releases':

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=139970

Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Pledge Manager is also going live sometime later tonight – July 18, 2013. Enjoy!

**deleted20250424**

Pledge Manager is out and it is probably the best one I've ever seen. Cart style system, running total, and just well done.

Hopes are rising...

Here's my list: Reckless + $480

3 Decal Sheets for UEDF and Zent
1 Resin SDF-1

UEDF Units:
4 Special Edition Rick Hunter Veritech
4 Special Edition Roy Fokker Veritech
36 [VF-1A, VF-1J, VF-1R, or VF-1S] Veritech Valkyrie
4 [VEF-1 or VF-1D] Veritech Valkyrie
8 Super [VF-1A, VF-1J, VF-1R, or VF-1S] Veritech Valkyrie
4 YF-4 Experimental Valkyrie
8 Armored [VF-1A, VF-1J, VF-1R, or VF-1S] Veritech Valkyrie
4 Experimental Battloids
8 SF-3A Lancer II Fighter
8 QF-3000 Ghost Fighter
16 Tomahawk/Defender
16 Spartan/Phalanx
2 Mk.II Monster

Total Miniatures: 242 (Note: 122 playable units)

Zentradi Units:
4 Special Edition Khyron's Glaug Officer Battlepod
4 Special Edition Miriya Queadluun-Rau Power Armor
8 Glaug Officer Battlepod
3 Glaug-Eldare
96 Regult Battlepod
8 Recon Battlepod
16 Artillery Support Battlepod (Light/Heavy)
8 Quel-Gulnau
12 Zentraedi Gluu-Ger Light Infantry
12 Zentraedi Serau-Ger Heavy Infantry
12 Gnerl Fighter
12 Nousjadeul-Ger "Male" Power Armor
12 Queadluun-Rau "Female" Power Armor

Total Miniatures: 207

Grand Total Miniatures 449
Cost per Miniature: $2.05 (Reflects Shipping Cost, but not Misc Purchase Add-ons)

Not a bad deal at all.