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 Alpharius wrote:
I hope someone reported that post to Kickstarter.

The very opposite of polite and considerate.

KS for some reason has no way of reporting things like this but i'm not too concerned since unlike him I know where he lives, and if I was worried could have his local PD go and visit him.

rigeld2 wrote:
From internet searches, customs takes about a week to clear. So 8/8 it gets loaded on a truck.
And that's assuming there are no delays in transit, no delays unloading the ship, no delays with customs, no delays with the transport company, etc. That's a really tight deadline.

Regarding customs: I believe they claimed to have been working with someone to make this as swift/short as possible. Whether or not it actually happens remains to be seen, just saying that's what they have claimed.

But yeah, as noted, they currently need everything to essentially go perfectly if they want to make it in remotely on time.

 Forar wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
From internet searches, customs takes about a week to clear. So 8/8 it gets loaded on a truck.
And that's assuming there are no delays in transit, no delays unloading the ship, no delays with customs, no delays with the transport company, etc. That's a really tight deadline.

Regarding customs: I believe they claimed to have been working with someone to make this as swift/short as possible. Whether or not it actually happens remains to be seen, just saying that's what they have claimed.

But yeah, as noted, they currently need everything to essentially go perfectly if they want to make it in remotely on time.

Forar that is something anybody who is getting stuff from overseas usually do, doesn't speed up things, but does make sure they get them though, eventually.

*shrug*

Just saying, that's what they've claimed, and their entire fragile house of cards is built on that miraculous lightspeed shot through customs.

Hell for all we know they've just flat out bribed someone.

We can debate how likely it is or isn't for weeks, but we won't actually know until mid August, so until then, here we are.


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Asterios wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I hope someone reported that post to Kickstarter.

The very opposite of polite and considerate.

KS for some reason has no way of reporting things like this but i'm not too concerned since unlike him I know where he lives, and if I was worried could have his local PD go and visit him.

Untrue.

- Go to the Project Home Page

- Scroll to the very bottom.

- Click on "report this project to Kickstarter"

- click "I see abusive behaviour on this project"

- Give details and submit.

Great it looks like I might get the retaliation stick cause NMI told on me on FB for posting all those memes with Kevin. So I give my money to PB, let them mishandle RRT, and now I have to worry my order gets screwed up. Real classy PB.

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Great it looks like I might get the retaliation stick cause NMI told on me on FB for posting all those memes with Kevin. So I give my money to PB, let them mishandle RRT, and now I have to worry my order gets screwed up. Real classy PB.

Are we in fething kindergarten?

I forget - who is NMI again, and why would he:

1) Care enough to bother?
2) Have enough pull to actually cause something like that to happen?
3) Why would Palladium care enough about NMI to do something stupid like that?

 Alpharius wrote:

● We have been promising for months that we would have Robotech® RPG Tactics™ product to sell at Gen Con. People have made travel plans, hotel reservations, bought tickets to Gen Con, etc., counting on it being available at Gen Con. We thought we’d have plenty of time to ship to backers before Gen Con, but the product is coming months later than we thought it would. If we could push back Gen Con, we would, but obviously we can’t.

I honestly had no idea that Palladium and Robotech where THAT big a deal...

Honestly, Robotech and Palladium IS the reason I'm going to GenCon. It's my first GenCon. I'm a Showdown KS backer, but I'll probably buy more form them there as well.

Good For You!

I hear Gencon is a blast, if a bit overwhelming at times, especially for a beginner.

I plan on going for the first time ever next year!

 Alpharius wrote:
I forget - who is NMI again, and why would he:

1) Care enough to bother?
2) Have enough pull to actually cause something like that to happen?
3) Why would Palladium care enough about NMI to do something stupid like that?

NMI is the banhammer on Palladium's forums. in other words hes the one giving palladium's forums a bad name.

Read the last few KS updates. Wow man. I was very close to bidding, but the price and Palladium's reputation combined to stop me.

Very sorry to see the fans and customers getting shafted like this. My sympathies. Good luck to all.

what's this about NMI snitching to PB for

 Cypher-xv wrote:
I get that there are fans and there are super fans, but this is overboard:

[Eric Montoya about 3 hours ago
@Rick S. if you do open a lawsuit. it'll be very easy for me to track you down. if I'm forced to do that no one will ever have to suffer another of your posts again. purge day!]

Creepy

Places like Kickstarter and Facebook are public. You could sue/file a complaint for that easily already.

Looks like "Blue Table Painting" will be doing up some of the demo pieces for Gencon. There's a couple of pictures of a recovery pod on the owner's facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/ShawnGately

Well the question comes to mind should charges be filed against the guy who threatened me ? might not amount to much but you never know.

Bottom line - report it to Kickstarter at a minimum.

Beyond that?

Totally up to you, of course!

 Alpharius wrote:
Bottom line - report it to Kickstarter at a minimum.

well there in lies the problem evidently your only allowed to make 1 report per kickstarter ever and I used my one report on another matter.

Really?

That a very strange limitation.

I'd still contact KS directly about this matter though.

 Forar wrote:
Looks like "Blue Table Painting" will be doing up some of the demo pieces for Gencon. There's a couple of pictures of a recovery pod on the owner's facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/ShawnGately

Lol. A bulk bog-standard work specialist for short turnaround display pieces. What a good idea.

Edit: actually, that's somewhat unfair, BTP have a very fast turnaround on basic standard work, and are fairly economical. For demo pieces they're actually pretty well suited. I just don't think they do any display level work, not that I've seen to date anyway.

 Alpharius wrote:
Really?

That a very strange limitation.

I'd still contact KS directly about this matter though.

well sent them a message was a pain trying to find a way to contact them though.

So I've upgraded these with the official points and all the correct upgrades for you all to see.
I have not done the support or Elite cards YET but when I do hopefully I can share them. I'll share more as able.

Basically these are the units in the main box set. There are 7 units.
Veritech
Tomahawk
Defender
Regult
Regult Scout
Glaug
Zen Recovery Pod

 Alpharius wrote:
Bottom line - report it to Kickstarter at a minimum.

Beyond that?

Totally up to you, of course!

Guess what the topic about the guy threatening physical violence or death on Kickstarter has been removed from Palladium forums.

Mike1975 wrote:
So I've upgraded these with the official points and all the correct upgrades for you all to see.
I have not done the support or Elite cards YET but when I do hopefully I can share them. I'll share more as able.

Basically these are the units in the main box set. There are 7 units.
Veritech
Tomahawk
Defender
Regult
Regult Scout
Glaug
Zen Recovery Pod

Nice... are the Regults and the Glaug made of cardboard? Only reason I can think of for them to be so very fragile compared with the destroids...

More fun with Harmony Gold, from the Robotech Tactics KS:

Christian Bleier about 4 hours ago

Stormonu, this video explains it rather well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZmWbivW20U&list=UU2vUKoTGIwNYq4LO0YWKPIg

HG is, lets put it mildly, somewhat disliked. They have been stoping any new Macross stuff from being released in the west, people haven't and will not forgive the issue with the Battletech unseen, especially not after going after the Mechwarrior (now online) trailer for having a a mech that superficially resembles the structure of a warhammer/tomahawk, they haven't completed anything new robotech related for decades now and the most reasonable assumption is, that their campaign will in the end lead to nowhere. Also they have the habbit of suing their own fans, for doing something with robotech.

hardly surprising, that their kickstarter, which looks more like a cheap moneygrab anyway, doesn't get many people supporting it.

In a way, looking at the histories of both companies, HG and Palladium *deserve* each other...

2006 articles on HG; CED tax fraud in Italy: http://www.reddit.com/r/robotech/comments/2b47v3/harmony_golds_frank_agrama_convicted_of_tax_fraud/

 Albertorius wrote:
Nice... are the Regults and the Glaug made of cardboard? Only reason I can think of for them to be so very fragile compared with the destroids...

Basically, yes.

The general faction balance seems to be the oft used "one side has a few tough units, the other has swarms of weaker units", ie: X-Wings versus TIE Fighters.

Granted, in the series we see Destroids and VT's shot down unless protected by Plot Armour, but that's the premise we're looking at in general.

ced1106 wrote:
More fun with Harmony Gold, from the Robotech Tactics KS:

Christian Bleier about 4 hours ago

Stormonu, this video explains it rather well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZmWbivW20U&list=UU2vUKoTGIwNYq4LO0YWKPIg

HG is, lets put it mildly, somewhat disliked. They have been stoping any new Macross stuff from being released in the west, people haven't and will not forgive the issue with the Battletech unseen, especially not after going after the Mechwarrior (now online) trailer for having a a mech that superficially resembles the structure of a warhammer/tomahawk, they haven't completed anything new robotech related for decades now and the most reasonable assumption is, that their campaign will in the end lead to nowhere. Also they have the habbit of suing their own fans, for doing something with robotech.

hardly surprising, that their kickstarter, which looks more like a cheap moneygrab anyway, doesn't get many people supporting it.

In a way, looking at the histories of both companies, HG and Palladium *deserve* each other...

2006 articles on HG; CED tax fraud in Italy: http://www.reddit.com/r/robotech/comments/2b47v3/harmony_golds_frank_agrama_convicted_of_tax_fraud/

Unsurprisingly, the RA KS has had some pretty crappy communication. But when the Agrama thing was mentioned in the comments, whoop, they were ALL OVER IT. As a poster summarized it quite hilariously:

Lukas Ketner 5 days ago
@Tatanka
Good catch
Certainly a hiccup in a the pattern of HG-to-backer communication if nothing else.
Harmony Gold on:
Q: re: Robotech Academy budget breakdown?
A: "............"
Q: re: Fans taking the financial risk?
A: "........you're an enemy."
Q: re: Fan-funding denoting HG level of commitment to Robotech Academy?
A: "................and a spy."
Q: re: Unfinished Robotech Shadow stuff?
A: ".................an Enemy Spy."
Q: re: HG CEO shady tax stuff?
A: "WHOA! HEY! Acquittal! Look for another prompt response following this one! No ties to HG! Would you like another prompt response? Help yourself! You got it!! We'll check back. Hello? acquittal!!!"

 Forar wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Nice... are the Regults and the Glaug made of cardboard? Only reason I can think of for them to be so very fragile compared with the destroids...

Basically, yes.

The general faction balance seems to be the oft used "one side has a few tough units, the other has swarms of weaker units", ie: X-Wings versus TIE Fighters.

Granted, in the series we see Destroids and VT's shot down unless protected by Plot Armour, but that's the premise we're looking at in general.

I feel that X-Wings vs. TIE fighters had a better justification there, but yes, it looks like that's the way they're going. Ah well, I'll be using other systems anyways, so...

Also, in the series the Destroids usually ended up blowing up at the drop of a hat, so it feels... weird, to see them being the hardest stuff.

Keep in mind that Destroids also have a DEF of only 5 making them pretty easy to hit. So even though they take some damage their slow speed and low defense values make them fairly easy to kill. Even them 1 destroid is worth 3-4 Pods.

Mike1975 wrote:
Keep in mind that Destroids also have a DEF of only 5 making them pretty easy to hit. So even though they take some damage their slow speed and low defense values make them fairly easy to kill. Even them 1 destroid is worth 3-4 Pods.

That's what feels weird to me, as them destroids usually got destroyed as fast as pods.

They're probably translating the RPG stats - iirc Destroids had a lot of MDC but couldn't dodge as well as VT.