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Forar (and whoever else gets their mini's)

I'm semi retiring on 40K in preparation for getting into Robotech.

Heard the Robotech RDF scale is compatible with Micro Armor vehicles and aircrafts. I've a huge collection of Micro Armor vehicles back when I was doing Sand Box set up in the Army (Don't ask Brother but it was a fun gig for at times I get to go on TDY to set up Sand Box) I just need someone to post their RDF figure by a Space Marine so I can build out type of theme's for terrain. I just need a actual eyeball visual if Battletech vehicles would be the right "size"

I read the bases are the same as 40K....base for a tactical marine is used and base for termie is used. I just need a confirmation

Also the "Unseen" being produce by Robotech and those produced before Ral Partha lost the lawsuit. There's a wee bit of a size difference but the RDF one's are more DETAILED. As for the Z's mini's you are quite correct on the height. At most an inch.

Since terrain seems to be 6mm (Battletech hex terrain would be to goofy) the first couple months I see everyone using 40K terrain Since I feel I've been shafted by GW with the new DE codex I going into building terrain for my battles.

They mention expansions for Southern Cross?
Robotech masters?
Invid?
NVM I am getting to far ahead of myself

At least I have something going for me. I'm really hoping the minis are worth the wait...

Anyone know off the top of their head, what the standard base size is?

Same or close the same bases a SM use and a SM Termie use

Ok, there's some terrain that I wanna get from Creative Gamescapes (Spaceship x) and it should work great as the interior of a zentradi ship.

Now that be interesting. Boarding action. Can only see Veritech making the fight though unless its a ground Zentradi ship. Though you would have to gear it towards the "Z's" with barricades and what not. I'm pondering the same but making it RDF1 with Galactica landing bay

Edit

Is there going to be a dedicated thread column for Robotech?

I just love CQB in all forms :3 but it wouldn't be right to give the zenteradi too much, since any VT's wouldn't be able to use fighter mode. It'd still be epic.

Oooh or a really large game, with the interior of a ship AND the exterior. Maybe destroids inside repelling the Zentradi as VT squadrons fight outside and work their way in?

"Thread column"?

Subforum?

That's up the dakka folks. 2 threads (general chatter and rules discussion) have held us pretty well so far. I imagine anything further would require this game to gain considerable traction in the public large.

There are no plans to open a RRT sub-forum.

 Manchu wrote:
There are no plans to open a RRT sub-forum.

Thanks Manchu. Though kicking the idea a bit is good for "just in case"

 Jihadin wrote:
Same or close the same bases a SM use and a SM Termie use

Nope. Space Marine bases are 25mm. Smallest RRT base is 40mm. Largest in Wave 1 is the Glaug at 50mm. I think they said Monster and Glaug Eldare would be 60mm. It's unknown if the Zentradi Infantry will be smaller (because it's Palladium, and making crap up on the fly is their modus operandi), but I believe it was stated the smallest base is 40mm.


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 Spartan-Kun wrote:
Ok, there's some terrain that I wanna get from Creative Gamescapes (Spaceship x) and it should work great as the interior of a zentradi ship.

Be very careful when dealing with them. Their Kickstarter was a complete clusterfeth, and their EBay and online store have been terrible. It took 10 months past their initial 1 month fulfillment time, and several threats of involving the police, before I received my almost complete order (The unlocked ramps were unilaterally rescinded). They refused to comment, refused to answer PM, and left no other way of communicating with them (had to resort to some desperate measures to get enough info to give to the KC Fraud Unit). Their FB page hasn't been updated in over a year, and there are STILL people on the KS that haven't received their product, or received notification.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/670901595/creative-gamescapes-spaceship-x/comments

In addition, if you intend on using the sidewalls, the larger models (such as the regular Glaug), just won't fit. The squares are about 45mm wide, and the regular Glaug as mentioned earlier, is 50mm.

On the flip side, the product appears to be pretty damned good. Very solid. But I'm not sure it's worth the risk, unless you make sure to cover your ass with purchasing protections. For as much crap as I give PB (and I feel it's deserved), even their clusterfeth of a KS hasn't been as bad as that one was.

I've head really, REALLY bad things about what happened during their KS. Though I thought enough time had passed that at least their Ebay set up would be good by now.

I'm debating on using the walls, though I'm probably going to. Since you wouldn't find a Glaug fighting inside the hallways of a ship.

It's the cheapest way I've found to do a starship interior/underground facility board. Zone Mortalis and Mantic's battlezones are pretty expensive for large boards.

 Spartan-Kun wrote:
I've head really, REALLY bad things about what happened during their KS. Though I thought enough time had passed that at least their Ebay set up would be good by now.

The Kickstarter issues are still ongoing, and in the link I provided, someone tried end-running it through EBay middle of August, and as of September 16, it's been a month without contact through that method either. Just recommending you go through whatever process gives you the best consumer protections, as I'd be skeptical you'ld get it without problem.

 Spartan-Kun wrote:
I'm debating on using the walls, though I'm probably going to. Since you wouldn't find a Glaug fighting inside the hallways of a ship.

It's the cheapest way I've found to do a starship interior/underground facility board. Zone Mortalis and Mantic's battlezones are pretty expensive for large boards.

Depends on how big you want it. To fill a 6x4 table to this level, requires 8 sets.

Depending on if you're willing to get your hands a little dirty, the Hirst Arts stuff is a bit on outlay, but allows you to produce as much as you want.

Like I said, if you can get the CG stuff, it's really good. But any significant expenditure, with the reputation (both past and current) that they have, I'd be leery if not paying in person for physical product, or at least without getting a real-world contact point.

:/ That's a bummer to hear. I was hoping things would be fine by now.

I'd wanna get between 8-12 sets so I can chop some bits up and customize them for what I want to do.

I love the Hirst Arts stuff. It's not so much unwillingness to get my hands dirty as it is that I don't know how capable I'd be at that. If I thought I could do I would. Though with the knowledge that they aren't all that reliable...I may end up taking a chance with Hirst Arts anyway.

 Forar wrote:
You'd be welcome to buy some of mine, but I'm planning on at least starting with selling locally, cut down the time, effort and outright hassle dealing with ebay, paypal and shipping stuff around.

Please let me know availability of the "destroids", I have some friends ready to mug me for "Battletech" miniatures... good excuse to do a meet at some point: Toronto is about an hour away for me.


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 Jihadin wrote:
Since terrain seems to be 6mm (Battletech hex terrain would be to goofy) the first couple months I see everyone using 40K terrain Since I feel I've been shafted by GW with the new DE codex I going into building terrain for my battles.

Jihadin, I went to a fair bit of work and got some input from others on stuff out there, this is a good start:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/531655.page
There are many people putting out great laser-cut terrain out there.
I keep meaning to pick up the DZC ruined cityscape to match the "pristine" version I had bought.

 warboss wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Blitzkrieg Early Bird pledge shipped va UPS Ground, eta Tuesday.

Definitely by backer number, as I was one of the first!
Can't wait! Think I'll take a half-day Wednesday so I can get all my minis assembled!

My backerkit number is in the 200's and my backer number on KS of less than 50... and I don't have a shipping notification as a US blitzkrieg backer. Did you get *anything* beyond just the battlecry pledge in wave 1? I'm sure they'll get around eventually to me after NMI flags us trouble makers to be delivered last.

My add-ons were VF-1D/VEF-1, resin SDF-1, etc - a buncha wave 2 stuff. I'm definitely going to be buying more destroids from miniaturemarket or discount_games_store.

Yup, in transit, on time. If anyone hasn't signed up for MyUPS, you probably should. It'll flag any packages heading to your address and give you email updates and let you view a calendar and expected delivery dates for packages, etc.



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 Manchu wrote:
My backer number is 323

Mine is #26

Backer number is the new e-peen measuring stick?

Joyboozer wrote:

 Forar wrote:

Log into the BK site from the email they sent you last year, hit "next" and it'll say "congratulations, you're #____" blah blah blah.

Though given the folks we've seen with KS#'s in the hundreds and BK#'s in the thousands, I think the BK# is effectively worthless, contrary to what we were told initially.

Which, of course, is SOP for this project.

It's Palladium, whatever set of rules they came up with wouldn't have worked, Kevin would have started making things up on the fly...
Better hope the packers roll high on the package contents chart if you want what you ordered.

So is the new thing to complain about the order in which Palladium is shipping boxes. Which, the complaints are, of course, entirely based upon speculation.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel now, guys.


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 Jihadin wrote:
Forar (and whoever else gets their mini's)

I'm semi retiring on 40K in preparation for getting into Robotech.

Heard the Robotech RDF scale is compatible with Micro Armor vehicles and aircrafts. I've a huge collection of Micro Armor vehicles back when I was doing Sand Box set up in the Army (Don't ask Brother but it was a fun gig for at times I get to go on TDY to set up Sand Box) I just need someone to post their RDF figure by a Space Marine so I can build out type of theme's for terrain. I just need a actual eyeball visual if Battletech vehicles would be the right "size"

I'm a huge Micro-armor fan as well as Battletech; 1/300 and 1/285 terrain is perfect. If you already have GHQ micro armor or Battletech vehicles, they'll work just fine.



I have been slowly building up an urban city using Gamecraft Miniatures buildings, including the multi-building sets available here - http://gcmini.mybigcommerce.com/6mm-large-city-buildings/?sort=featured&page=2


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 Alpharius wrote:
Backer number is the new e-peen measuring stick?

Mine and Manchu's have shipped and people were asking about backer #'s in order to attempt to guess what order Palladium was shipping in.

I believe it's by backer # (as they've stated that), shipping what is easiest first (single pledges with little to no add ons, such as mine, and such as Manchu's), in order to get as much stuff processed as quickly as possible. That's basically how any warehouse/shipping operation would work. At least, it better, as I've written software for warehouse/shipping operations to do just that.

Yes. Absolutely "complaining". It's not at all possible for people to notice a pattern that indicates that what they said they were going to do was not, in fact, what they ended up doing.

Nope, totally just dudes bitching on the intarwebs, can't leave poor Palladium alone, so beset and put upon as they are.

I mean, they've dealt with us with such transparency and forthright communication, I don't know what I was thinking.

 Talizvar wrote:
Please let me know availability of the "destroids", I have some friends ready to mug me for "Battletech" miniatures... good excuse to do a meet at some point: Toronto is about an hour away for me.

1-2 expansion boxes of Tomahawks/Defenders, and 1 box of Spartans/Phalanx. The former depends on whether or not they ship the T/D kits my group is getting with the Daedalus Attack we snagged. None have been claimed yet, and yeah, I'm happy to meet once I've got figures in hand to hook a fellow Dakka member up.

Also, 7 VT boxes, 8 Battlepod boxes, 4 Command Pod boxes and 1 Artillery/Support Pod box.

Started an early swap shop thread with a link in my sig. Obviously it may be weeks or months (probably months) before I have product in hand, but I figured I'd get a head start on getting the word out.

 Spartan-Kun wrote:

I love the Hirst Arts stuff. It's not so much unwillingness to get my hands dirty as it is that I don't know how capable I'd be at that. If I thought I could do I would. Though with the knowledge that they aren't all that reliable...I may end up taking a chance with Hirst Arts anyway.

The Hirst stuff is really easy to do and relatively (for hobby stuff) economical. Just make sure to get yourself some good plaster, not Plaster of Paris kind of stuff.

 Jihadin wrote:
They mention expansions for Southern Cross?
Robotech masters?
Invid?

Yes. They have dropped offhand comments about work beginning on the later series, though nothing concrete has shown up, and they have a LOT of work to do on Wave Two of the Macross stuff, so who knows when that might even get underway.

At Gencon, people reported that they had mentioned doing another campaign, perhaps one that included both the second and third series together.

But for now, that's definitely getting ahead of things, and frankly, going to campaign before Wave Two delivers would probably be... ugly. I'm aware it's not uncommon for companies to have multiple KS's underway at the same time, but given the delays and communications issues with this one, I can't see spreading themselves even thinner being a good idea or going over well with the community.

 Jihadin wrote:
Now that be interesting. Boarding action. Can only see Veritech making the fight though unless its a ground Zentradi ship. Though you would have to gear it towards the "Z's" with barricades and what not. I'm pondering the same but making it RDF1 with Galactica landing bay

Edit

Is there going to be a dedicated thread column for Robotech?

Like This???


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Morgan Vening wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Same or close the same bases a SM use and a SM Termie use

Nope. Space Marine bases are 25mm. Smallest RRT base is 40mm. Largest in Wave 1 is the Glaug at 50mm. I think they said Monster and Glaug Eldare would be 60mm. It's unknown if the Zentradi Infantry will be smaller (because it's Palladium, and making crap up on the fly is their modus operandi), but I believe it was stated the smallest base is 40mm.


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 Spartan-Kun wrote:
Ok, there's some terrain that I wanna get from Creative Gamescapes (Spaceship x) and it should work great as the interior of a zentradi ship.

Be very careful when dealing with them. Their Kickstarter was a complete clusterfeth, and their EBay and online store have been terrible. It took 10 months past their initial 1 month fulfillment time, and several threats of involving the police, before I received my almost complete order (The unlocked ramps were unilaterally rescinded). They refused to comment, refused to answer PM, and left no other way of communicating with them (had to resort to some desperate measures to get enough info to give to the KC Fraud Unit). Their FB page hasn't been updated in over a year, and there are STILL people on the KS that haven't received their product, or received notification.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/670901595/creative-gamescapes-spaceship-x/comments

In addition, if you intend on using the sidewalls, the larger models (such as the regular Glaug), just won't fit. The squares are about 45mm wide, and the regular Glaug as mentioned earlier, is 50mm.

On the flip side, the product appears to be pretty damned good. Very solid. But I'm not sure it's worth the risk, unless you make sure to cover your ass with purchasing protections. For as much crap as I give PB (and I feel it's deserved), even their clusterfeth of a KS hasn't been as bad as that one was.

I think Zen Infantry will have 25-30mm bases....

 judgedoug wrote:
So is the new thing to complain about the order in which Palladium is shipping boxes. Which, the complaints are, of course, entirely based upon speculation.

Scraping the bottom of the barrel now, guys.


*snip*


Mine and Manchu's have shipped and people were asking about backer #'s in order to attempt to guess what order Palladium was shipping in.

I believe it's by backer # (as they've stated that), shipping what is easiest first (single pledges with little to no add ons, such as mine, and such as Manchu's), in order to get as much stuff processed as quickly as possible. That's basically how any warehouse/shipping operation would work. At least, it better, as I've written software for warehouse/shipping operations to do just that.

I agree. Blaming the victim is always scraping the bottom of the barrel in my book so you should probably stop. Also, you may be interested to find out that complaining about complaining is still complaining. Fun fact! Another fact is that we were given criteria and they may not be following only them. I'm in the US with almost as simple of an order as you can have (a blitzkrieg with two decals as the only add on) so that should get me out soon. If they were going alphabetically, I should be shipped in the first batch. My backerkit number indicates is they were going by that then I should have been shipped out and my backer number is even lower than yours so there is that as well. There is always a chance that they simply don't have extra decals and that those are in container 3 since they said they'll be able to ship out ANY one backer with that load so if it arrives and I don't get a shipping notice soon thereafter that would indicate that they're using other info. Like maybe who their forum mod doesn't like.. or who voted no... or who posted negative remarks about how the campaign was run. I'm not putting on the tinfoil hat just yet but if I don't get that shipping notice and people who are much down the backer food chain as determined by THEIR public criteria are getting them then they're using something else in addition.

 warboss wrote:
would indicate that they're using other info. Like maybe who their forum mod doesn't like.. or who voted no... or who posted negative remarks about how the campaign was run

 warboss wrote:
I'm not putting on the tinfoil hat just yet

Yes you very much are. You just did.

No, I disagree. I'm just getting it ready next to me. If they don't ship it out soon with container three then there is NO other choice but to say they're using additional criteria that they haven't stated. If you don't think Palladium is a vindictive viper's nest, you haven't been reading the reports of ex-employees for decades (some who left voluntarily and others who didn't). I personally don't take anything they say at face value with how they've flat out lied (either to us or to themselves) repeatedly over the past year and a half.

I think Manchu is in league with Palladium, AND the lizard people.


He might even be a Lizard person too...

 Cyporiean wrote:
I think Manchu is in league with Palladium, AND the lizard people.

I can honestly say I am not in league with Palladium. Not after it became clear, thanks to this KS fulfillment process, that they assassinated JFK and faked the moon landing.

I'm noting a deft avoidance of the lizard person matter, however...

Maybe that's why my V videos started disappearing......

Unwritten Rule Number Four of DakkaDakka: Lizard People are a complete hoax and certainly don't control all important political and financial institutions.

Seriously, however, the tone of this thread is and has been consistently terrible. Every time I start posting here, I feel driven away because I am actually still enthusiastic about the game and the miniatures. It's not all or nothing. As in, I am not a PB apologist simply because I am still on board and genuinely excited to be receiving some cool stuff, hopefully this week some time.

PB has made a mess out of their communication in the past and that is inarguable. But this thread is totally unbalanced. The fact that otherwise (presumably) sane posters are seriously considering that PB has engineered a conspiracy against them is a pretty startling reading on the old bat gak barometer.

 Manchu wrote:
Unwritten Rule Number Four of DakkaDakka: Lizard People are a complete hoax and certainly don't control all important political and financial institutions.

Seriously, however, the tone of this thread is and has been consistently terrible. Every time I start posting here, I feel driven away because I am actually still enthusiastic about the game and the miniatures. It's not all or nothing. As in, I am not a PB apologist simply because I am still on board and genuinely excited to be receiving some cool stuff, hopefully this week some time.

PB has made a mess out of their communication in the past and that is inarguable. But this thread is totally unbalanced. The fact that otherwise (presumably) sane posters are seriously considering that PB has engineered a conspiracy against them is a pretty startling reading on the old bat gak barometer.

Exactly, how I feel more often then not here, if your not for them, then you MUST be a PB Fan-Friend, Shill, or Lizard Man.