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Did it also come with assembly instructions?

Yes, there is a glossy one sheet for each model I believe. Will be most useful (necessary), I reckon.

The Glossy one sheet is where the actual units stats are. What I mean is that maybe some of the stuff like Artillery Pods that come in the Battlecry BUT not in the main box may have separate cards. IE the main box does not come with cards for all the units and squadrons in it. So you'd only get the cards for something like the Jotun when you purchase the Jotun Add-On. I had not thought of that but it would make sense.

I'm not talking about the unit cards; there is a glossy page of assembly directions as well.

ahh...10-4

What's the deal with the cards? Are they laminated and you're supposed to write on them and it rubs off? i tried reading in the comments but it was after the comment section went full slow.
I'm also ashamed to admit jorels " you are a daily plug" comment made me laugh. So spiteful.

Just got my shipment, today. It is indeed a cardboard box containing the big, square game box, and a large plastic bag stuffed with sprues, cards and paper.

Impressions as I open it up:

No shrink-wrap on the game box. No organization of the contents inside. It appears that the components comprising the game are just dumped into the box. It's a mess. Lots of tangled sprues. Looks like the Zent legs like to wedge into each other, so most of the tangled sprues are grey. Already popped something off a sprue trying to gently separate two tangled ones. There is one bag in the game box that appears to have two little sprues in it. None of the others are bagged, just dumped in, like I mentioned. The bagged models appear to be Guardian Mode VFs.

Seeing these up close is kind of drag. The details are soft. The parts breakdowns are just insane. These are not for a "get it to the table" wargame crowd. These are tiny novelty model kits. There's a grainy texture to the plastic. That's odd. Wonder how that'll paint up. Might make quick and dirty washes a good technique- or a tragic mess. Interesting. The injection/connection points on the pieces are large. Some of the connections are larger than the bits they support, by a weird margin. Almost looks like a photoshop parody of fiddly models kits. I've been working with some Malifaux plastics lately, so these look like throwbacks to the nineties or something. Not terrible, but nowhere near the state of the art for the industry.

Whatever. I don't know what I was expecting, at this point. I'll go through everything properly when I get back from my studio in a few hours. At the moment, though? It looks like junk. Poorly made. Poorly packaged. There. I said it. It looks cheap. Not like a contemporary retail product, at all.

Somehow, I had no trouble handling the contents of my box without breaking pieces off. And I have never heard the word "dumped" to describe sprues in a box before. As for quality, anyone who has seen the numerous pictures of sprues knows what to expect and has either made their peace with it or not. To my mind, the box contains no surprises.

Is part of the problem the oversized box? Surely you choose a box that correctly fits everything so stuff can't move around?

Well, Wormwoode has 6 posts to their name, so perhaps an infrequent lurker?

I imagine a lot of people are going to appear out of the woodworke in the coming weeks to speak up on topics 'us regulars' thought long dead.

Hell, the "ummm, why can't I make any combination of Tomahawks and Defenders?" topic keeps coming up, and that's been 'resolved' (within the regulars, not by PB explicitly) for over a year now. There are people confused by their "missing pieces" (Rick, Roy, Khyron... see the pattern forming here?) and "Wave one/two" was declared around 9 months ago.

This is the downside to those who 'just forget about projects and wait for them to show up'. When they do show up, those unengaged people also don't have context/history as to why they're getting what they got available.

Not that this is specific to WW himself, just noting that it's already becoming 'a thing'.

I received my box today too, everything looks in good shape. No packaging inside the game box, but no problems with sprues being tangled either. The game box and extra baggy of sprues were well packed into the shipping container, with plenty of packing paper to dampen down any shifting. On the other hand, Livonia MI to St. Louis MO isn't exactly an epic journey.

Now that I've got my stuff, I'd like go back to the whole glue discussion for a moment, if I may. What were the thoughts on using Testors Model Master cement?

From BGG;

Just got mine, too -- did everyone else's come the same way: main box unsealed with the spruces just thrown in every which way? It's a little disappointing ...

It may not be an issue for many people, but I know my first thought was "wow, that's an awfully big box compared to what is contained within... I hope things don't jostle around too much in there while in transit. That heavy book landing repeatedly on those sprues could be an issue..."

Maybe I'm just used to Wyrd's plastics, which are generally pretty firmly in place with some foam or something in closely held boxes.

Hopefully it's not an issue.

 Manchu wrote:
Somehow, I had no trouble handling the contents of my box without breaking pieces off. And I have never heard the word "dumped" to describe sprues in a box before. As for quality, anyone who has seen the numerous pictures of sprues knows what to expect and has either made their peace with it or not. To my mind, the box contains no surprises.

Perhaps the difference in packagers and lack of QA on the packing?

My God, people are actually complaining about how the sprues are put in the box. It's really hopeless.

 Manchu wrote:
My God, people are actually complaining about how the sprues are put in the box. It's really hopeless.

Its great that yours came in perfect condition, and I hope that mind does too, but if someone's stuff is coming tangled and broken.. how is that not a legitimate complaint?

 Cyporiean wrote:
tangled and broken

This is exactly how bull gak starts. "Tangled" whatever that means is not the same thing as broken. No one has complained of a broken sprue. A piece coming off the sprue in the box also does not make a broken sprue.

 Manchu wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
tangled and broken

This is exactly how bull gak starts. "Tangled" whatever that means is not the same thing as broken. No one has complained of a broken sprue. A piece coming off the sprue in the box also does not make a broken sprue.

Okay, Tangled and with random pieces preremoved from the sprue, possibly getting mixed up.

This is a good thing?

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
tangled and broken

This is exactly how bull gak starts. "Tangled" whatever that means is not the same thing as broken. No one has complained of a broken sprue. A piece coming off the sprue in the box also does not make a broken sprue.

Okay, Tangled and with random pieces preremoved from the sprue, possibly getting mixed up.

This is a good thing?

Do not have a bit box for 40K?

We don't have all that many datapoints to draw from, but considering they're going to be shipping somewhere around 6,500 of these things out to backers alone, now would be kind of a good time to recognize if "gee, maybe we picked a box an inch or two too tall" is an issue.

I mean, people have postulated that maybe 'all that extra space' was to allow them to fit the baggies into the Core box for Battle Cry's to save space, but apparently that's not happening? So maybe they underestimated how much space said baggy would take up? Or found that it was just too finicky/time consuming to bother with and went with larger boxes instead?

 Jihadin wrote:
Do not have a bit box for 40K?

I have a bits box for many games.


I however do not just remove every bit from the sprues of a new gundam kit, toss them into a box, and then attempt to assemble the damn thing.

 Jihadin wrote:
Do not have a bit box for 40K?

Not everyone interested in this game plays 40k?

Keep in mind, this has been very vocally aimed at their RPG crowd, which will only share an overlap in the Venn Diagram with miniatures gamers.

 Cyporiean wrote:
random pieces preremoved from the sprue, possibly getting mixed up

In all seriousness, mixed up with what? For whom is this a crisis? Someone who has never bought a plastic kit before?

 Forar wrote:
Keep in mind, this has been very vocally aimed at their RPG crowd

There is NOTHING that can be done about someone who opens this box feeling overwhelmed if they have never had anything to do with miniatures gaming hobby before. Those people should have held out for RoboTech clix.

Meanwhile, here's an actual (if minor) issue: the regult torso pieces don't fit together very well. The "waist" of the front half has a lip that hit the inside base of the back half. The back half can be snapped into the front but that seems to somewhat misalign the indents for the legs. It probably needs to be cut, making a fiddly model even fiddlier.

 Forar wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Do not have a bit box for 40K?

Not everyone interested in this game plays 40k?

Keep in mind, this has been very vocally aimed at their RPG crowd, which will only share an overlap in the Venn Diagram with miniatures gamers.

LOL Oh My

I have bits from Battletech still
Containers of Bolt Action
Multiple sprues of various models in a plastic container
40K
Fantasy Warhammer
Also 30mm WWII fighters for a Air War game
You name it I probably have bits or sprues from it.

All the images on Google can assist someone slapping a piece on a model. Its not a BIG issue

 Jihadin wrote:

 Forar wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Do not have a bit box for 40K?

Not everyone interested in this game plays 40k?

Keep in mind, this has been very vocally aimed at their RPG crowd, which will only share an overlap in the Venn Diagram with miniatures gamers.

LOL Oh My

I have bits from Battletech still
Containers of Bolt Action
Multiple sprues of various models in a plastic container
40K
Fantasy Warhammer
Also 30mm WWII fighters for a Air War game
You name it I probably have bits or sprues from it.

All the images on Google can assist someone slapping a piece on a model. Its not a BIG issue

I bow down to your gamer peen, and will offer no further complaints.

*shrug*

I'm not saying "HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM" and pulling out my hair.

But 'user friendliness to people new to miniatures' is something that has been brought up dozens of times since the campaign started.

Just because you or I don't see it as a problem doesn't mean there won't be issues for some folks, and while I recognize that they shouldn't have to cater to the utter lowest common denominator, "how much space is left in the box" seems like a reasonable consideration.

Doubly so given that the backer boxes aren't shrink wrapped.

Anyway, meh, if people don't think it'll be an issue, awesome. You officially have more faith in humanity and shipping services than I do. :-P

My book and cards were on the bottom. Sprues on top
nothing tangled or broken
though I did pop a part off as I was looking at the sprues
connection points are very very small which I like
tons of bits and options
posting from my phone so pardon the broken sentences
overall pretty happy so far
finishing up a bolt action polish army but may assemble some tonight


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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe any if the ks I backed had shrink wrapped boxes
dreadball
deadzone
sedition wars
Boss monster gold
Martian front (no game box at all)
Etc

Is shrink wrapping a valid complaint? It also didn't come with busty naked ladies damn you to hell palladium

 Forar wrote:
'user friendliness to people new to miniatures'

This exists NOWHERE in the industry. And that is why sites like Dakka exist. Anyone new to miniatures would have a tough time with any miniatures. They will admittedly have a tough time with RRT miniatures because they have lots of parts. I am in the middle of assembling a regult and it is more complicated than I like, that's for sure, although I am really lazy when it comes to modelling.

 Forar wrote:
Doubly so given that the backer boxes aren't shrink wrapped.

What? What is shrink wrap going to do one way or the other?

 Forar wrote:
*shrug*

I'm not saying "HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM" and pulling out my hair.

But 'user friendliness to people new to miniatures' is something that has been brought up dozens of times since the campaign started.

Just because you or I don't see it as a problem doesn't mean there won't be issues for some folks, and while I recognize that they shouldn't have to cater to the utter lowest common denominator, "how much space is left in the box" seems like a reasonable consideration.

Doubly so given that the backer boxes aren't shrink wrapped.

Anyway, meh, if people don't think it'll be an issue, awesome. You officially have more faith in humanity and shipping services than I do. :-P

I'm more likely be buying a few sets from Ebay when it hits there. Already know I stand a good chance of the container and goods might get damage. Does not bother me at all. Before someone say I should have donated to Kickstarter well....that Chemo Therapy does a number (when it started and ended )

Though I am sure if bits are knocked off the sprue and they post a pic I am sure someone will post a complete sprue pic to help someone out

Random response to a data point - the sedition wars box I got from the KS was shrink wrapped, as was the post KS box I bought.

rigeld2 wrote:
Random response to a data point - the sedition wars box I got from the KS was shrink wrapped, as was the post KS box I bought.

Was the shrink wrap done by hand or machine?