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Yeah, learned a few things with assembly.
Those splits in the legs really do need filler, paint does little to mask the gaps.

Pods primed real nice, the gosh-darn UEDF models must have some extra fun mold release, it was going on like I added flow-aid or something.
Next time I will use a stronger cleaner/solvent.
Had to take a stiff brush to it to clean up the strange pooling, at least added more tooth so the first paint coat went on nice.

So primed 35 UEDF models, and 30 Zents.
All UEDF bases are painted a first coat, 2 Valk. squadrons have the initial block coat on them (24 models).
All excited now since I can envision the final result despite my impatience at shin-gap-filling and poor primer coating.
Oddly, doing the tiny fiddly details is OK with me when block painting is done with airbrush.
I would have lost my mind trying to cover all the strange angles with classic brush application.

Right now it all looks rough due to the initial stages but in about a week I think it will all look awesome even with my impatient execution.
Due to the small size, brush painting really looks good, no large flat surfaces to show-up brush strokes.
Still undecided on what to do for detail on the bases, I went to a darker grey to hint at pavement and not be too jarring for space/moon environment.
Since 1mm = about 1 foot in scale (nice mixing of measurement systems on my part!) I am hesitant to add much gravel to a base, it would be some serious rubble.

Hey, the Z Recovery Pod doesn't have legs split down the middle!

Not having legs gives it an unfair advantage.

Don't worry, they're rectifying that by having the Gnerl (which also doesn't have legs) have a solid split down the middle through the canopy to make up for it.

 Talizvar wrote:
Since 1mm = about 1 foot in scale (nice mixing of measurement systems on my part!) I am hesitant to add much gravel to a base, it would be some serious rubble.

Sand and talcum powder?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
Since 1mm = about 1 foot in scale (nice mixing of measurement systems on my part!) I am hesitant to add much gravel to a base, it would be some serious rubble.

Sand and talcum powder?

This would be a good spot for the "not sure if serious" meme.
For the microarmor guys it is sawdust or a "textured" surface of putty or green-stuff.

I may go the lazy route and paint texture on http://www.liquitex.com/us/Shop/Medium/Effects_Medium/Black_Lava_Effects_Medium,_8-oz.aspx

Jaymz is working on a WIKI to organize and post all the extra goodies that have been done over time. It's still a WIP. Facebook has it's good and bad, forum have their good and bad, wikis have their good and bad. Hopefully combining all 3 we get the best of all 3 in the process.

http://robotechrpgtactics.boards.net//

http://robotech-rpg-tactics.wikia.com/wiki/Robotech_RPG_Tactics_Wiki

 Talizvar wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
Since 1mm = about 1 foot in scale (nice mixing of measurement systems on my part!) I am hesitant to add much gravel to a base, it would be some serious rubble.

Sand and talcum powder?

This would be a good spot for the "not sure if serious" meme.
For the microarmor guys it is sawdust or a "textured" surface of putty or green-stuff.
I may go the lazy route and paint texture on http://www.liquitex.com/us/Shop/Medium/Effects_Medium/Black_Lava_Effects_Medium,_8-oz.aspx

You might want to play with some Vallejo's modelling stuff too. http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/water-_-stone/family/21 It might be a little too thick for Robotech but I've liked it well enough for my FoW stands.

 Krinsath wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
Since 1mm = about 1 foot in scale (nice mixing of measurement systems on my part!) I am hesitant to add much gravel to a base, it would be some serious rubble.

Sand and talcum powder?

This would be a good spot for the "not sure if serious" meme.
For the microarmor guys it is sawdust or a "textured" surface of putty or green-stuff.
I may go the lazy route and paint texture on http://www.liquitex.com/us/Shop/Medium/Effects_Medium/Black_Lava_Effects_Medium,_8-oz.aspx

You might want to play with some Vallejo's modelling stuff too. http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/water-_-stone/family/21 It might be a little too thick for Robotech but I've liked it well enough for my FoW stands.

I use their white pumice extensively, and I like it quite a bit:

Thanks all, looks like there is some agreement of more a fine textured sand look rather than the kitty litter type basing like for 28mm.

 Talizvar wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
Since 1mm = about 1 foot in scale (nice mixing of measurement systems on my part!) I am hesitant to add much gravel to a base, it would be some serious rubble.

Sand and talcum powder?

This would be a good spot for the "not sure if serious" meme.

Serious. PVA, with a sprinkling of sand and talcum powder.

Well, here is what I have so-far.
Going to my FLGS with my army and see if the 40k crowd is willing to try something different.
Will be using the "cheat sheets" Mike provided to help with getting the uninitiated up to speed.

Doing my part I guess, these models will only get better as I continue.
Velejo model air is awesome by the way.

 Talizvar wrote:
Well, here is what I have so-far.
Going to my FLGS with my army and see if the 40k crowd is willing to try something different.
Will be using the "cheat sheets" Mike provided to help with getting the uninitiated up to speed.

Doing my part I guess, these models will only get better as I continue.
Velejo model air is awesome by the way.

good luck with that, might be able to find a player or two to play with already assembled models, but finding someone willing to spend money and then build the minis is a long stretch.

Asterios wrote:
good luck with that, might be able to find a player or two to play with already assembled models, but finding someone willing to spend money and then build the minis is a long stretch.

What is with all the bad vibes and negativity?

It is like candy or drugs: free samples!
(Kelly's Heroes)

Anyone want to know how NOT to put those models together, how NOT to prime and how NOT to put Dropzone Commander buildings together, give me a PM.
Finally figured out how to do the tops of those buildings properly where they are solid, think I got all the glue off my fingers after figuring that out.

Oddly, at this stage it all will be actually pleasant.
The details will be nice and with little work will look awesome and that is not me being a bragger, getting to this stage is the hard part.
Painting a few canopies, guns / gun barrels, missiles, metal bits, lenses... just getting some red on the appropriate spots will stand out nice.

Anyone who would enjoy playing Zentradi would be the easiest build to do.
Or an all destroid army.

Unfortunately I feel a need to make 2 more squadrons of Veritech fighters... silly, silly, silly.

If you're looking for more VTs, I have 4 (1 squad worth) for sale cheap.

 Forar wrote:
If you're looking for more VTs, I have 4 (1 squad worth) for sale cheap.

You had to say that...
Darn candy and drug little plastic toys...
We should arrange a game and sold product all in one go, I tend to like pick-up rather than delivery.
21st weekend? Are you Game??
I could head out to the big Toronto.
We can continue this with a PM so I can find out how cheap...

And, I'm done building Wave 1!


Note how one Gerwalk is in the classic "flare" pose....

Yes, that's my entire split from the first wave of RRT product.

Like the rest of you, I'm waiting on Wave 2 for my Supers, FPAs and MAC-II from Wave 2, but it does feel good to have some models built.

Good stuff John!

Painting the white and brown "brownie" is being more challenging than I planned so stalling a bit with my painting.

Rules question if anyone can answer: zent. Missile pods do not have "life is cheap rule" do they get a command point? I figure they do.

 Albertorius wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

The vertically-mirrored left/right cutline is standard for aircraft:

Yep, each and everyone of them have their canopies cut in half. Obviously a GREAT IDEA.

WTH happened with the proportions on the Lancer & Ghost? Why are they so much more squat and rounded than the reference artwork? WTF?

Palladium happened. I chalk it to heavy metal poisoning.

You realize that bitching about the canopies likely gets Palladium to make the canopy into an extra piece, right? Is that what you want? Is it?

I'd rather bitch about the proportions, as a fix there would at least look better.


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 Talizvar wrote:
Good stuff John!.

Thanks. I need to figure out what I want to do with the missiles, though...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
And, I'm done building Wave 1!


Note how one Gerwalk is in the classic "flare" pose....

Yes, that's my entire split from the first wave of RRT product.

Like the rest of you, I'm waiting on Wave 2 for my Supers, FPAs and MAC-II from Wave 2, but it does feel good to have some models built.

Are you playing Malcontents (or any RRT at all)? You've only got like, half a Valk squad there, and certainly can't run a Zent force.

 Stormonu wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
And, I'm done building Wave 1!

Spoiler:

Note how one Gerwalk is in the classic "flare" pose....

Yes, that's my entire split from the first wave of RRT product.

Like the rest of you, I'm waiting on Wave 2 for my Supers, FPAs and MAC-II from Wave 2, but it does feel good to have some models built.

Are you playing Malcontents (or any RRT at all)?

Nope (and nope).

I split a pledge for the minis, not the game.

Is your colour washed out? Or are the rdf dice white and pink?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

You realize that bitching about the canopies likely gets Palladium to make the canopy into an extra piece, right? Is that what you want? Is it?

I certainly hope so... at this point, one piece more or less won't break the camel's back, and in the particular case of the Gnerl, it doesn't even have that many to begin with.

I'd rather bitch about the proportions, as a fix there would at least look better.

There's that too, of course, but it's not an issue with the Gnerl we've seen (and I've bitched about the proportions of the Lancer and the Ghost, too)... and seriously, a seam right down the middle of a whole clear cockpit is... well

I just got this weekend the Wave 1 of my Showdown, and I almost can't believe I did. The good thing is that it seems that the stuff that's there looks rather nice, all in all, once assembled, and fixed. The bad... holy gak that's a holy lot of crap.

The guys that were interested on buying took a look at the boxes and after that they were all... "well, nope, I'd rather not. I'll buy some for Battletech, but I think I'd rather not do Robotech, thanks. They look nice, though".

So I guess I'll have to wait to play until I assemble my gak. Maybe by this time next year.

 Albertorius wrote:
The guys that were interested on buying took a look at the boxes and after that they were all... "well, nope, I'd rather not. I'll buy some for Battletech, but I think I'd rather not do Robotech, thanks. They look nice, though"

That is pretty much what I am seeing in a nutshell. I got to my FLGS a bit too late to start a game on the 40k night but got a few interested after this setup:

People see the work and back away, but are happy to play something set up.
It is harder than I thought to stay within the various lines for painting the Veritechs but the pods are painting up real easy.
Once I have a decent amount painted (month tops: Comicon next weekend, Hotlead the next...) I will post a "come play" night and see if that works out better.
That one box is STILL sitting there at the FLGS, the owner got all excited when I set up, thinking there may be a hope to move some product... I think this may be just toying with his emotions.

From their update: http://www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=773%3Apalladium-booksr-weekly-update-march-13-2015&catid=52%3Aweekly-updates&Itemid=183

Robotech® RPG Tactics™

– Available now in the USA, Canada, European Union, Australia and New Zealand

If you love Robotech®, you’ll want to take a look at this game. Beautifully detailed game pieces of your favorite Robotech® mecha, and fast playing rules that capture the Robotech® experience in a new, exciting way. And this is just the beginning. We have so much more planned. Available NOW – in game stores across the USA and Canada. Available in stores in the UK, European Union, Australia and New Zealand soon.

Available now in the USA, Canada, European Union, Australia and New Zealand.

or

Available in stores in the UK, European Union, Australia and New Zealand soon.


So which is it?

(I'm guessing the second one but lets bold face the first for all the fanboy sheep so they'll believe that one)

Should be the former (US, not UK), given that I have seen RRT in my local store - they had multiple copies for Black Friday, fewer on the shelf when I left compared to when I arrived.


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 Albertorius wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

You realize that bitching about the canopies likely gets Palladium to make the canopy into an extra piece, right? Is that what you want? Is it?

I certainly hope so... at this point, one piece more or less won't break the camel's back, and in the particular case of the Gnerl, it doesn't even have that many to begin with.

I'd rather bitch about the proportions, as a fix there would at least look better.

There's that too, of course, but it's not an issue with the Gnerl we've seen (and I've bitched about the proportions of the Lancer and the Ghost, too)... and seriously, a seam right down the middle of a whole clear cockpit is... well

I just got this weekend the Wave 1 of my Showdown, and I almost can't believe I did. The good thing is that it seems that the stuff that's there looks rather nice, all in all, once assembled, and fixed. The bad... holy gak that's a holy lot of crap.

The guys that were interested on buying took a look at the boxes and after that they were all... "well, nope, I'd rather not. I'll buy some for Battletech, but I think I'd rather not do Robotech, thanks. They look nice, though".

So I guess I'll have to wait to play until I assemble my gak. Maybe by this time next year.

The Valkyrie fighter & Gerwalk canopies were opaque, so why would you expect clear canopies for the other fighters?

Anyhow, the Ghost and Lancer look awful. The seam is the least of their problems.

emphasis added:


Available now in European Union, Australia and New Zealand.

or

Available in the UK, European Union, Australia and New Zealand soon.




There's two very contrary statements being made in the same paragraph.

It would have been helpful had you clarified your question, because then I would have ignored it.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Valkyrie fighter & Gerwalk canopies were opaque, so why would you expect clear canopies for the other fighters?

I don't. By "clear" I mean "devoid of seams right in the middle". As inferred by the rest of the conversation.

Anyhow, the Ghost and Lancer look awful. The seam is the least of their problems.

Agreed.

 Talizvar wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
The guys that were interested on buying took a look at the boxes and after that they were all... "well, nope, I'd rather not. I'll buy some for Battletech, but I think I'd rather not do Robotech, thanks. They look nice, though"

That is pretty much what I am seeing in a nutshell. I got to my FLGS a bit too late to start a game on the 40k night but got a few interested after this setup:

People see the work and back away, but are happy to play something set up.
It is harder than I thought to stay within the various lines for painting the Veritechs but the pods are painting up real easy.
Once I have a decent amount painted (month tops: Comicon next weekend, Hotlead the next...) I will post a "come play" night and see if that works out better.
That one box is STILL sitting there at the FLGS, the owner got all excited when I set up, thinking there may be a hope to move some product... I think this may be just toying with his emotions.

Congrats on the progress since I last peeked in (unlike the kickstarter comments that I also peeked at today and instantly regretted doing). It's good to see something come of the purchase for you and good luck getting a local scene going. It looks like a nice setup; I'm biased though as it is very similar to the one I bought/built going on two years ago in prep for this KS! I assembled and converted a 40k crisis suit this weekend so maybe I'll eventually get out of my hobby funk and put some robotech stuff together as well. If you can, take and post pics of the game via a battle report like mike used to do. I'd recommend using Comic Life if you've got a few bucks to spare as it's a (IMO) cool format for stompy robot battle reports (see the spoiler below for an example).

So they're available now in Australia, and I don't have my wave 1 shipment yet?

They can't even keep to their "revised" promises.