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 NTRabbit wrote:
So they're available now in Australia, and I don't have my wave 1 shipment yet?

They can't even keep to their "revised" promises.

Well, to be fair, they do seem to have no idea what they're doing. Oh wait, that's not really a good excuse. I'm sure if Kevin were pushed for an answer, he'd find someone else to throw under a bus.

They aren't being very specific (I'm shocked! Shocked, I tells you!), but it could just be a concession that they ARE "now" available in AU through non-PB channels. And that they will "soon" be available in those places through official channels. For whatever definition of "official" you want to use.

Yeah, it's contorted logic, but it's the only logic they have. I'd LOVE to know what the reasoning why on Jan 29, the EU and AU stuff was underway, and yet in the intervening 8 weeks, they haven't shipped RoW ("and should start shipping to our Australian Kickstarter backers and the rest of the world in another week or so."). The Australian thing, I get. The product is en-route. Why hold back on shipping RoW (which is being direct)? Did/do they not have stock on hand? Are they afraid the Aus/EU backers would be upset?

Cause that second one isn't going to be any worse if a couple of RoWers got theirs a little earlier, if it was sent after AU/EU was underway, and it just seems to show further contempt for non-North American backers. A week or two to physically/mentally reset? Sure. 8 weeks and counting? Meh.

Well, the powerfull and the insane have one thing in common. They don't change their views to fit the facts, they change the facts to fit their views.

I'll leave it up to each individual to decide for themselves which camp Kev and Co are in.

I also don't understand why shipping did not go Domestic, Continental US (So that's the states first, then Canada/South America), Package AU and arrange shipping, Package EU and arrange shipping, Ship ROW as soon as everything else is packed and waiting.

Why wait until everyone else has received their rewards - especially when you can buy them from US retailers and get them delivered quicker than KS can get rewards to backers?

I still think they ought to have taken shipping times into account and sent AU, EU, Continental US & ROW together, then finished with Domestic. The domestic would still have got there first, followed by Canada/South America, then ROW, then EU and AU would still have been last, but at least the time difference between States and AU would have been minimised and much good will could have been had.

Still, it's not Christmas so Kev probably isn't thinking about good will. Wonder if the situation will change if it gets to this Christmas before wave 2 gets out.

441 days late and counting.

133 days until Gencon.
254 days until Black Friday (according to some site I google'd).

Because we know that when push comes to shove, sales targets are what really get them moving.

Wave one had more figures per Battle Cry (70 vs 27 in wave 2), but way fewer different sprues to produce. Last year they started punching plastic in late June/early July and missed a mid August Gencon. This year Gencon is in late July. Guess we'll know in the next month or two how important they feel it is to have something new to sell.

And as Morgan has pointed out, I wouldn't call something that has been at retail for 9 months "new", in regards to actually having product for sale.

 warboss wrote:
Congrats on the progress since I last peeked in (unlike the kickstarter comments that I also peeked at today and instantly regretted doing).

Thanks! I unfortunately approached it as "I don't care how fiddly it is: drink, play loud music, do whatever it takes to get it playable!!!"

It's good to see something come of the purchase for you and good luck getting a local scene going.

Yeah, fickle bunch that, the better it looks the more that take interest: hence the finish painting push.

It looks like a nice setup; I'm biased though as it is very similar to the one I bought/built going on two years ago in prep for this KS!

Yeah, working on the first three buildings I definitely figured out how not to put those together.

I assembled and converted a 40k crisis suit this weekend so maybe I'll eventually get out of my hobby funk and put some robotech stuff together as well.

Shifting from one stompy robot to another. Start with the destroids, the look really cool for the least amount of fussing, thank goodness the Tomahawk was easy.

If you can, take and post pics of the game via a battle report like mike used to do. I'd recommend using Comic Life if you've got a few bucks to spare as it's a (IMO) cool format for stompy robot battle reports (see the spoiler below for an example).

When I get a decent game-in I will do what I can. That Comic Life looks neat I will check it out, I can pretty much make anything I want in Word/Excel/Powerpoint but they all can be clunky.

Yep, hope the backers get everything, I think PB is riding on this so they can say "Awe, gee, we are still shipping out Wave1! You are bugging us on Wave2 already??"

Peter wanted me to finish these up for him since he's managed to sculpt and print off some Invid minis.

Anyways, my first take now that the official rules are out. Feel free to make suggestions. This is a WIP

 Talizvar wrote:
Thanks! I unfortunately approached it as "I don't care how fiddly it is: drink, play loud music, do whatever it takes to get it playable!!!"

So your tip is to numb multiple senses in order to put together those mouthwatering models? Got it. I could see that going badly if you're a mean drunk (breaking news: Man arrested in downtown Toronto threatening bystanders with a tiny 1/2" gun screaming "Seams... seams.. they're everywhere!" while standing on one leg. More at 9pm.)

Yeah, working on the first three buildings I definitely figured out how not to put those together.

I'd probably recommend that folks don't actually glue them. I did and it made storage alot more difficult. If you're not planning on putting multiple large models on each roof then just the friction fit should be fine visually and they'll be alot easier to pack away.

Shifting from one stompy robot to another. Start with the destroids, the look really cool for the least amount of fussing, thank goodness the Tomahawk was easy.

Ironically, I actually modelled the crisis suit with one leg up similar to 1/2 the battloids out there. It wasn't on purpose and I didn't realize the additional similarity until I made the joke above.

When I get a decent game-in I will do what I can. That Comic Life looks neat I will check it out, I can pretty much make anything I want in Word/Excel/Powerpoint but they all can be clunky.

A fair warning though but that report took me a few hours to put together. Between picking and resizing the pics to fit a turn on each comic "page" to getting the text bubbles to not be too intrusive, it takes a bit longer than just typing it out on a forum post. If you run a small model count game (like my HG one), I'd say it's worth it but not if you run more than a couple dozen. In any case, have fun and good luck! They also have android and IOS versions as well as PC.

Yep, hope the backers get everything, I think PB is riding on this so they can say "Awe, gee, we are still shipping out Wave1! You are bugging us on Wave2 already??"

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Well, the powerfull and the insane have one thing in common. They don't change their views to fit the facts, they change the facts to fit their views.

So do children.

The minis are homemade or rather he did the designs and printed them on shapeways but only for his own use. Personal use cannot be touched by a C and D.

12 more battle pods, 3 more officer/recon pods, 2 heavy arty pods, and 11 veritechs till finished.......then I gotta paint it all......

Whelp, another week, another newsletter. Let's see what they have to say;

UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™

So far, the overwhelming majority of Kickstarter backers and people who have purchased Robotech® RPG Tactics™ are enjoying it. That’s great because we have big plans for Robotech® RPG Tactics™ and expanding the game line and gaming experience. As we add to the game line there will be infinite possibilities for battles and adventure, on Earth and on distant planets.

Robotech® RPG Tactics™ has been shipping to our European Kickstarter backers for the past week, and many are already getting theirs in the mail.

The other container arrived at port in Australia last week and we anticipate packages starting to get mailed out to our Kickstarter backers and the rest of the world by the end of this week and next.

Much more about our plans for Robotech® RPG Tactics™ in the weeks to follow. Keep having fun building and painting Robotech® RPG Tactics™ game pieces, playing the game, and spreading the word about how much fun this game is to play. The FREE Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Color Guide Resource is available on DriveThruRPG.com along with an ever increasing number of comprehensive building instructions, with more coming in the weeks ahead as we ratchet up the excitement for RRT.

So far, the overwhelming majority of Kickstarter backers and people who have purchased Robotech® RPG Tactics™ are enjoying it.

[Citation Needed]

I'm sure they have it on good authority that 98% of people love it and 2% who claim not to haven't even played it. >.>

Also it's touching they keep including a segment on the game, but there isn't really anything to say. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are plenty of European/Australian/ROWian backers that are plenty annoyed/happy to finally be receiving something, but we're a couple of months into this whole "omg so much to say guys you just don't even know!" routine.

Would it be wrong to say that the "fans" are putting in more work than PB in promoting the game?
I bet during the open house Kevin will not play the game once (or ever has).
It is probably the biggest financial gain they had seen in decades yet they still go "OMG role playing is where it is all at!!".
They are all excited about Invid Invasion and have not realized the fan "thrill" is actually making the most of a poor game launch.

It pains me to echo the latest PB missive but it is great to see other people's stuff getting done.

 Forar wrote:
The other container arrived at port in Australia last week and we anticipate packages starting to get mailed out to our Kickstarter backers and the rest of the world by the end of this week and next.

Given Adepticon starts Thursday, and PB offices are 5 hours away, so they'll probably leave Wednesday, that likely doesn't leave a lot of staff behind to do the RoW mailings. Still no reason given why they haven't started, 8+ weeks after the last backer shipment left.

So far, the overwhelming majority of Kickstarter backers and people who have purchased Robotech® RPG Tactics™ are enjoying it.

[Citation Needed]

I'm sure they have it on good authority that 98% of people love it and 2% who claim not to haven't even played it. >.>

It's a pretty bald-faced unsubstantiated claim. 5342 backers. Benefit of the doubt, make it 6K after pre-sales and retail. Overwhelming majority IMO is 75%+. So, they are claiming direct knowledge that 4,500+ people are enjoying their game? When less than a quarter of backers* actually made the effort to cast a vote and have a voice in the GenCon Sale Vote. Made worse by the fact that AU/ROW (and an undisclosed number of EU) are backers, and so count, but haven't even received it. It's just such transparent bs that it's funny AND pathetic.

* Correction, it was possibly closer to 30%. Though even that claim admitted to the number being potentially flawed.

 Mike1975 wrote:
The minis are homemade or rather he did the designs and printed them on shapeways but only for his own use. Personal use cannot be touched by a C and D.

He may have created them with intent of personal use, however he did not print them himself on his own printer. He used a printing service which prints items for profit, which is certainly not personal use. They may not be able to enforce a C&D on him, however they can certainly issue it to shapeways or whatever printing service is supplying him with prints as they are using the designs to make a profit. (even if it's very small)

 paulson games wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:
The minis are homemade or rather he did the designs and printed them on shapeways but only for his own use. Personal use cannot be touched by a C and D.

He may have created them with intent of personal use, however he did not print them himself on his own printer. He used a printing service which prints items for profit, which is certainly not personal use. They may not be able to enforce a C&D on him, however they can certainly issue it to shapeways or whatever printing service is supplying him with prints as they are using the designs to make a profit. (even if it's very small)

Also, as has been shown often in these kinds of situations, the actual merit of the case often doesn't have much bearing on the issuance of a C&D. Sue first, ask questions in discovery, hope the recipient decides it's not worth the trouble to fight.

Is it just me or does it sound like RoW orders will be shipping from the Australian distributor?

 Spartan-Kun wrote:
12 more battle pods, 3 more officer/recon pods, 2 heavy arty pods, and 11 veritechs till finished.......then I gotta paint it all......

Wow, that is a lot of stuff! Double pledge? Good job on the building progress!

BTW, if you're still doing Veritechs, if you cut down the Battliod stands, you can have your Gerwalks landing or whatever, like mine on the previous page...





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 Talizvar wrote:
Would it be wrong to say that the "fans" are putting in more work than PB in promoting the game?

I bet during the open house Kevin will not play the game once (or ever has).
It is probably the biggest financial gain they had seen in decades yet they still go "OMG role playing is where it is all at!!".

They are all excited about Invid Invasion and have not realized the fan "thrill" is actually making the most of a poor game launch.

It pains me to echo the latest PB missive but it is great to see other people's stuff getting done.

It would not be wrong, though the RRT "fans" are better than the SedWars ones.

RRT is unquestionably the biggest financial gain PB has ever seen. If they don't get Wave 2 squared away, I worry that they will fritter it away on crap like RIFTS.

I am also glad to see stuff built over the past 3 months. The minis do look pretty good once they're built. Can't say that about the proposed Ghost & Lancer models.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I am also glad to see stuff built over the past 3 months. The minis do look pretty good once they're built. Can't say that about the proposed Ghost & Lancer models.

I have gripes with the minis apart from the insane amount of pieces and the bisection placement, but they do look nice enough once assembled and fixed. The Ghost and Lancer, though... stupid bisection and crap looking double whammie FTW.

Rick has gripes?

I never thought I'd see the day that happened.

 Talizvar wrote:

I bet during the open house Kevin will not play the game once (or ever has).

That would require him learning the rules. Considering he has not done so for the past over 30 years for his flagship RPG products that he ostensibly created to varying degrees, I think the chances of it happening are low. If he does run a RRPGT game, it'll be d10 based house rules with 8 players per side and counts as models (so that destroid is really a veritech). But the hardcore fanbois on their forums will claim it was the best experience evAr!

Sorry Albertorius, I got your username confused with Rick's.

I am very glad to see that every box of RTT comes with a feedback form which asks how you are enjoying it, and that everyone has submitted their forms back, resulting in a overwhelming number of enjoyment responses.

Thank you Kevin for being an honest, hardworking, handsome, honest, not-lying, not-sleezy, not-shitlording, high-quality, straightforward, honest, not-at-all-gaking-from-every-concievable-orifice individual in your enlightening and truthful newsletter that is not self-serving drivel.

Thank you.

 Killionaire wrote:
I am very glad to see that every box of RTT comes with a feedback form which asks how you are enjoying it, and that everyone has submitted their forms back, resulting in a overwhelming number of enjoyment responses.
Thank you Kevin for being an honest, hardworking, handsome, honest, not-lying, not-sleezy, not-shitlording, high-quality, straightforward, honest, not-at-all-gaking-from-every-concievable-orifice individual in your enlightening and truthful newsletter that is not self-serving drivel.
Thank you.

I think that is a highly unfair way of describing what he has to say.
It has so little actual content there is no way I could conclude a commitment to anything other the highest quality of not saying anything with the highest word count next to a politician in an election year.
Remember also that the only feedback that counts is what he has personally heard so 98% that have gone un-heard is considered positive and the other 2% he has heard: he only hears what he wants to hear so it is 100% accurate in his mind.
It all makes logical sense when you just change your perspective. (Cannot get enough slaps to simulate the required thinking)

 n815e wrote:
Rick has gripes?

I never thought I'd see the day that happened.

I have gripes, am I also Rick?

We are all Rick. *insert Spartacus meme here*

The way this campaign's been handled, Rick-rolled, maybe.

Yeah, posted this on KS, but I get the feeling this is how Kevin perceives himself:

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/270/903/e4c.jpg

"But he's no Captain Kirk"

Contemplating some time away from the keyboard and painting destroids. Let's see if I can muster the willpower.

I imagine if Shawn of BTP and Kevin ever met each other, they would either really really hit it off or hate each other instantly.

I would imagine they've already been in contact with each other, given that BTP did the 'show' models for GenCon last year.

We are all Rick. *insert Spartacus meme here*

Nobody wants to be Rick.

 n815e wrote:
Sorry Albertorius, I got your username confused with Rick's.

Hey, I'm a grumpy old bastard, of course I have gripes. Nothing to do with the quality of the minis and moulds, or the lack thereof

I just want to say that I am enjoying this game so much that it has inspired me to put an entire 40k army and a warmachine army before my RRT stuff in my hobby queue.

Obviously this is because I want to be in the zone when I actually start painting these mouthwatering minis.