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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I don't care. Just give me my MAC-II Monster.

2 monsters.

So they can fight back to back.

The monster is the only model left I am excited for. I am however skeptical to it ever arriving.

@KK - 2 is better, sure. I just want the one that I already paid for.

You didn't pay for it though. You contributed a certain amount of money to a kickstarter; kickstarters aren't pre-orders.

Unless they were purchased through the pledge manager, at which point they were being sold.

Nomeny wrote:
You didn't pay for it though. You contributed a certain amount of money to a kickstarter; kickstarters aren't pre-orders.

They are required to follow through on their end of the deal. If handing money to someone to make something that they are required to deliver to you is not a pre-order than I don't know what is.

The armored VT is something to look forward too.

Who doesn't want an overcoat made entirely of missiles?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The armored VT is something to look forward too.
Who doesn't want an overcoat made entirely of missiles?

Only make sure the armor is good and thick or let them all loose at once or it becomes a suicide bomb overcoat.
<penetrating hit> "Oh dear..."

If they're not going to deliver, I'm gonna go all Stewie on them.

Just looked at the armoured VT and had a bad thought, just how many little extra parts is all those missiles, hatches etc going to add to the piece count.

Of course we may only get a version with everything closed up.

Each missile has to be at least three pieces to retain all that detail!

My mouth is a waterballoon of pent up anticipation!

 Swabby wrote:
Each missile has to be at least three pieces to retain all that detail!
My mouth is a waterballoon of pent up anticipation!

Plus it will only be an overlay kit: you will have to attach it to the battleoid veritech "each sold separately!"
I actually doubt that, but in the back of my mind I am beginning to get nervous...

 Talizvar wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
Each missile has to be at least three pieces to retain all that detail!
My mouth is a waterballoon of pent up anticipation!

Plus it will only be an overlay kit: you will have to attach it to the battleoid veritech "each sold separately!"
I actually doubt that, but in the back of my mind I am beginning to get nervous...

I wouldn't be so sure. The way the Jettison rules are talked about in the POH Tournament Rules, it opens that up as a possibility. As it'll also cut down significantly on time, as they only need to design and cast the add-ons, I wouldn't completely write it off. And it'd fit four sets on one sprue. Throw in two Battleoid Sprues, and that's the box done. It'd be more difficult for the Super Valks, but that's not impossible either.

Speaking of the POH Rules, Forar pointed this out over on the PB Forums. With the Destroid replacement condition on some tables, that's looking to be an auto-loss for any Malcontent army forced to fight on those tables, unless there has been some significant changes from the Update 112 Malcontent Lists. Of the 8 Ground Core Squads, only 4 are fieldable using Wave 1. None of those are legal (and only 2 of the remaining 4) on a "space table". Of the 4 Aerial Core, one is both usable and legal in Wave 1, but ONLY if you own the Miriya Limited Edition. The only way to have a legal army, is to own two Miriya.

I very much doubt PB will model it separately, we've seen the part breakout for the Jotun (an armored variant) and the add-on armor is modeled as part of the miniature instead of separately.

I agree - from the packaging and pricing, it's clear that the Armored Veritechs are going to be fancy Destroids.

From pb by James laflame
From Wayne yesterday on the Official Palladium Facebook Page after myself and another person made comments on the last update in regards to the the fact 5 weeks since the last update is unacceptable

"Wayne Smith I'm sorry about that, guys. I know it's been too long. I've been trying to put together an update, just keep getting pulled in too many other directions.
Like · Yesterday at 2:36pm"

Busy or not, after 5 weeks (and 8'ish of teasing something BIG), they'd fething well better have something good to say.

Yay! Another apology. I'll just file that one with the other two dozen about the same thing that they just apparently can never learn to do for more than a few weeks at a time. Dice bags don't design themselves, people!

I'm just disappointed we didn't get any useless platitudes to go with the apology.

 Forar wrote:
Busy or not, after 5 weeks (and 8'ish of teasing something BIG), they'd fething well better have something good to say.

Not even a hint they'd reveal it at the open house, but such a feat would require intelligence and timing.

Yeah, the next update will be "Oops, sorry for the five weeks. We did have something big planned, but we got super busy and forgot what it was because we weren't working on it. Oh - look, squirrel."

I wish I could march the attorney general into their office and make them give an accounting of where the money went, and what the status of each item was. Maybe I'm better off not knowing, though.

Nomeny wrote:
You didn't pay for it though. You contributed a certain amount of money to a kickstarter; kickstarters aren't pre-orders.

Not so much of an argument when you're an established company instead of a lone entrepeneur who can't get regular financing, when you run a post-KS pledge manager (for which everyone had to pass) and when the terms of the KS establish an obligation to follow through.

So yeah, it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. Naming it an arglebargle instead doesn't change its meaning.

Well, I actually got my "your stuff has been sent" message just this morning.
I have trouble believing it's finally over, but I guess I don't have the box in my hands yet...

 Albertorius wrote:

Nomeny wrote:
You didn't pay for it though. You contributed a certain amount of money to a kickstarter; kickstarters aren't pre-orders.

Not so much of an argument when you're an established company instead of a lone entrepeneur who can't get regular financing, when you run a post-KS pledge manager (for which everyone had to pass) and when the terms of the KS establish an obligation to follow through.

So yeah, it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. Naming it an arglebargle instead doesn't change its meaning.

I think that was less a commentary on the nature of Kickstarter and more a jab at some of the gak Johnny has been giving various people in this thread over the last year or so.

It's sort of funny to see it turned around, but in the end we're all stuck waiting for Palladium to decide that typing up a bit of info is worth prioritizing.

 HudsonD wrote:
I have trouble believing it's finally over...

Did you only get a core set? Because if not, I've got bad news...

 HudsonD wrote:
Well, I actually got my "your stuff has been sent" message just this morning.
I have trouble believing it's finally over, but I guess I don't have the box in my hands yet...

Did you get a first contact pledge? If so, I'm sorry you had to wait 8-9 months to have your's shipped from the time the core boxes started going out. The good news is that you'll soon have the box arrive so it can likely sit next to some other unnamed anime robots unused on the shelf.

Update time!

"UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™

We have been working away on a number of RRT items. So much more to announce. It’s coming."

I never said it was a big update! That's what, over two months they've been saying the same bullgak?

*jazzhands*

Edit: "Gotta get new product into your hands!

I have been working on several book titles as the primary focus of the moment, namely ™ and Robotech®: Expeditionary Force Marines™ Sourcebook."

See anything missing here? Solid Palladium editing in a nutshell right there.

PB said that rrt was their main focus, now it seems like the infamous semenbieda ADHD has struck again.

 Forar wrote:
Update time!

"UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™

We have been working away on a number of RRT items. So much more to announce. It’s coming."

Yeah, right! So's Christmas/2061/The day Satan skates to work!

I have just wasted more time than it would have taken to put out a brief "Well, these are the things we are working on, guys. Expect more detail in a few weeks.". If they have so much to announce, why not tell us ONE SINGLE THING!

 Conrad Turner wrote:

 Forar wrote:
Update time!

"UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™

We have been working away on a number of RRT items. So much more to announce. It’s coming."

Yeah, right! So's Christmas/2061/The day Satan skates to work!

I have just wasted more time than it would have taken to put out a brief "Well, these are the things we are working on, guys. Expect more detail in a few weeks.". If they have so much to announce, why not tell us ONE SINGLE THING!

B-B-Because it must be THE BESTEST® UPDATE EVER™! They can only whet your appetite with vague speculation and empty promises. Details leaked early might make it only a great or fantastic Update, and that's just not acceptable. It's gotta be the bestest® work they've ever done, or it's just utter crap. And that means they'll have let down you, their fan. Who look upon them like man of old looked upon the gods. They do not take this responsibility lightly.

Or.... the Emperor has no clothes.

The fact that the latest Murmur explaining that they're too busy to Update us, is larger in word count than seven of the eight Updates this year (and if you extract the apology and explanation for delay in the 14th Jan one, all eight), is probably lost on them. But either way, we'll know "soon". I mean, they said it's coming! Aren't you excited?

According to Rick it seems there's a group of backers who are trying to get legal action taken against pb. I'm gonna sue pb round two.lol

It's best to not put any stock into any he says without it being verified by an independent third party source like pics or a downloadable court filing.