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While the cannon looks cool, I have to say that the tesseract ark just doesn't look so great. It looks a bit squashed, and the level of detail just doesn't look very in depth. I have to say I am disappointed.

What are your guys first impressions?

Personally I'm waiting to see the rules.
The Ark doesn't jump up and down and scream "Buy Me!" at the moment, but it may look better painted and from different angles.
The real crux is what it can do.
So Jury is out at the moment.

It looks like the tesseract might get a reath ray. Well im glad that the poor crons are getting some love

I'd like them if they were original sculpts instead of kit-bashes, nonetheless they're okay.

I like almost all the stuff Forge World has put out lately. I was a bit worried about the Necron stuff from the pictures at the Forge World Open Day, but now that we have better quality pictures, I think they look pretty awesome.

i likes them. they look smexy!

 marv335 wrote:
Personally I'm waiting to see the rules.
The Ark doesn't jump up and down and scream "Buy Me!" at the moment, but it may look better painted and from different angles.
The real crux is what it can do.
So Jury is out at the moment.

Below is the forgeoworld painted example. And it does look a lot better. Bar the fact I don't like rusty necrons, and the paint job seems to have added a lot more detail then the model actually had (ie the mentioned rust effect). Just my two cents on it. I love most forgeworld stuff, but just not sure on this one.

The pylon has skyfire and interceptor and can be taken in units of 3. The rules are strong and it is listed as a heavy support for necron codex. If I had necrons I would be getting three lol

So basically it's a sabre defence for necrons in the heavy slot witb tesla weaponry?
Less doomsday arks to worry about then.

So, Necrons get "it"?

I love that new Necron bomber looks so cool. I always hated the pilot w/ no windshield.

 Griddlelol wrote:
So, Necrons get "it"?

I can never look at that the same way now haha.

I just think that the model doesn't have a proper necron look to it for some reason.

I like how they look and I like the rules about them.
But I really do not like the price of that Ark, I just can't afford that price after I buy my Stalker, a Sentry Pylon and the new Tomb Citadel.

So I will probably use a Barge and modify it slightly to use it as a "proxy".

Bomber 225pts
12 armour all round.
4 HP
Five death sphere bombs Large blast Str 10 Ap 1, Blind and Pinning
Heavy Support choice

Tesseract Ark
250pts
12 armour all round (+ Quantum Sheilding for AV 14 front and Sides)
4HP's
Heavy Support choice
3 fire options
Solar Fire Rg 48" Str 7 Ap 2 Heavy 3 Blast
Particle Hurricane Template St 3 Ap 3 Fleshbane
Seismic Lash Rg 24" Str 5 Ap 4, Heavy 1 Quake, Armourbane, Ground Lash (hits in a thin line like the death ray)
When weapon destroyed occurs on a 4+ the ark is destroyed and all models within 6" suffer strength 6 ap - hits. Also str 6 from an exploded result.

New Sentry Pylon (HS Choice), 135pts each basic with 120" S9 AP2 Heavy 2 Gauss Exterminator, has interceptor and skyfire, is artillery with 3 Wounds, 3+ save and T7, can take 1-3 in battery's, +40pts for Heat Cannon 36" S10 AP1 Heavy 2 Blast Melta or +25pts for Focussed Death Ray pick point in 24" roll 3D6 and extend line between the two points, S10 AP1 Heavy 1.

The Focused Deathray, also hits units TWICE that are under the line.

The Pylon is absolutly excellent, base with the Gauss Exterminator.

The Tesseract Ark, I'm not sure on. It is very powerful, and very durable, between AV 14 and Jink, but it's also pretty expensive points wise.

I play Necrons, but if you still have to ask your opponent for permission to use Forgeworld stuff, no one who is even slightly competitive is going to let you use any of those. All 3 of those things are pretty freakin awesome rules wise. I'd kill to have them in the regular codex.

 TheCrazyCryptek wrote:
I play Necrons, but if you still have to ask your opponent for permission to use Forgeworld stuff, no one who is even slightly competitive is going to let you use any of those. All 3 of those things are pretty freakin awesome rules wise. I'd kill to have them in the regular codex.

Someone who has the book, said that these units may be taken as either part of a Dark Harvest list, or "In the Heavy support Slot in a "Codex: Necrons Army"

I don't think many people will refuse to play. My group loves Forgeworld. Some tournaments, like the BAO are also allowing Forgeworld. I'd talk to your friends. None of these are OP, and come with a pretty hefty pricetag.

so the pylon is an expensive sabre defence with lascannon unless it picks the other things?

Forgeworld is fine, my gaming group is cool with it. More and more events are letting people use it.

Not allowing Forge World is like not allowing Space marines.

It's just plain silly.

 blood reaper wrote:
Not allowing Forge World is like not allowing Space marines.

That's just not true. Not allowing Space Marines would be a much more interesting choice.

As for the Necron stuff, I love love love the bomber. The Tesseract Ark bugs me mostly because of the name. It clearly shares its chassis with the Command/Annihilation Barge rather than the Doomsday/Ghost Ark. I really like the look of the latter two and was disappointed that the Tesseract Ark doesn't look more like them.

 TheCrazyCryptek wrote:
I play Necrons, but if you still have to ask your opponent for permission to use Forgeworld stuff, no one who is even slightly competitive is going to let you use any of those. All 3 of those things are pretty freakin awesome rules wise. I'd kill to have them in the regular codex.

No, in the book, it is written with every unit:

WHEN CHOSEN AS PART OF A CODEX: NECRONS ARMY, THE UNIT IS A (insert FOC slot here) AND IS TREATED AS THOUGH IT WAS CHOSEN FROM THAT CODEX

Saying they can't use it is like saying they can't use Annihilation Barges because you don't like them.

Bludbaff wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
Not allowing Forge World is like not allowing Space marines.

That's just not true. Not allowing Space Marines would be a much more interesting choice.

But we still have Dark Angels, Blood Angles, Space Wolves, the Tyrants Legion, the Siege group, the Heresy legions, the Black Templars and the Chaos space marines.

 Blaggard wrote:
so the pylon is an expensive sabre defence with lascannon unless it picks the other things?

It's got a much longer range, and has two shots, on the Gauss Exterminator option.


Can we please leave the Forgeworld debate out of this thread? There are plenty of threads for that.

Ohhh Love the bomber and pylon. That ark though, I dont like it.

The problem that I have with the ark is the fact that it's too big, it's almost the size of a tank but has 1 operator who looks like he's telling the machine to go forward by pointing his arm instead of plugging himself into the matrix and doing it mentally. it's just looks so impractical and non necron efficient

I love the bomber and the pylons but why has no one mentioned the Canoptek Acanthrites? I think they're a pretty strong cc unit

RivenSkull wrote:

 TheCrazyCryptek wrote:
I play Necrons, but if you still have to ask your opponent for permission to use Forgeworld stuff, no one who is even slightly competitive is going to let you use any of those. All 3 of those things are pretty freakin awesome rules wise. I'd kill to have them in the regular codex.

No, in the book, it is written with every unit:

WHEN CHOSEN AS PART OF A CODEX: NECRONS ARMY, THE UNIT IS A (insert FOC slot here) AND IS TREATED AS THOUGH IT WAS CHOSEN FROM THAT CODEX

Saying they can't use it is like saying they can't use Annihilation Barges because you don't like them.

This is an argument you don't want to start. We had a thread about this previously that went on for 13 pages with absolutely nothing resolved. Some people just simply do not want to play against Forgeworld units, while some have no problems. Telling people that they must include them for any reason is just going to start that unproductive cycle all over again.

Agreed. Suffice it to say you can't force somebody to play a game of 40K if they don't like the rules being used.

They have grown on me, I expected something more stand alone and different or even titan like rather than kit bashed. But the more I see it the more I do like the models, baby pylons are actually a pretty cool model.

I will get a couple of pylons down the track and a bomber once I have put together the rest of my army (2016 mabye... lol)

 SupremeDalek wrote:
I love the bomber and the pylons but why has no one mentioned the Canoptek Acanthrites? I think they're a pretty strong cc unit

Well, they increased in cost by 5 points.

I'm considering bringing a unit of them, since a lot more people seem to be bringing Land Raiders and what not. Still though, 50 points a pop is rather pricey.

The Tesseract Ark is also heavy, so it can fire all of it's weapons and still move. It also has TWO tesla cannons, they are not a twinlinked pair. That means you can still move and fire three weapons from it. Quite the gunboat.

EDIT: You can also swap the 2 Tesla Cannons, for 2 Gauss Cannons, for free. That's pretty nice. Since you always count as stationary.